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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Great stuff by Blizzard. I was hoping they would leave the game alone for a while, rather than nerf-jerk in response to the community. Our tendency to whine and give our personal opinions credence means that we should usually be ignored. As to solutions to problems, if there are real problems, I have no idea. My personal wish for the longest time has been a slightly buffed Stalker (i.e. more Dragoon like in its effect). But, more seriously, I am happy to leave it to Browder and Kim. | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
But still: The game is actually fun to watch again! So refreshing after the last year of WoL... | ||
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[]Phase[]
Belgium927 Posts
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Bobgrimly
New Zealand250 Posts
On March 19 2013 06:25 Jisall wrote: Give corrupters the Ability "Corrupt" Corrupter kills iteself, suiciding into the enemy aircraft dealing Scourgelike damage. THIS ^^^^^^^^. Gives you a choice to use as a standard corruptor or suicide for high damage. Maybe nerf their standard damage even. Something anything is better than the current corruptor. Make broodlords evolve from muta and there is no problems. Corruptors become all about aa. (as in you don't need to produce them if you don't need aa... ie you can go muta and straight to broodlord without having to build a worthless unit against ground armies you might be facing.) | ||
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On March 19 2013 06:39 SpikeStarcraft wrote: lately i feel kinda bad when i abuse medivacs so much... when people just give up because im commuting between third and main and kill everything.. so that they just gg and leave, without ever fighting my army. or that im just hopping from base to base and take them out while ultra infestor is too slow to catch up... It feels very very strong and im n1 diamond now... i guess i can finally get master now because of this :D I dunno... maybe they just havent learnt to deal with it good enough... but i have a lot of fun. During the early stages of WoL drops used to be much more effective than they were in the end. It is most likely going to be the same with speed Medivacs. If we wait a few months people will learn how to deal with them. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
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sibs
635 Posts
On March 19 2013 01:34 lichter wrote: Sure I'm getting slaughtered on ladder but I'm glad they are taking their time and not rushing to nerf things because of the vocal idiocy. I mean minority. vocal idiots* not vocal idiocy, that makes no sense. | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On March 19 2013 02:23 Zelniq wrote: i think the best way to change it though is to make nydus hive tech, but not easily deniable just cus you spotted it. Probably by reducing the build time and increase the hp both, and also allow the zerg to cancel building a worm too to get some (not all) money back and so they can start planting another one sooner. then it also makes more sense for zerg's drop to be just a little better, overlords are kinda slow..maybe allow overseers to drop units, meaning if the zerg wants to have speedier dropships they spend more money and time making overlords into overseers. About the nydus, I am not sure. Well I guess you could tweak it a little bit but in my head I could see how it quickly would go from not being used to become a major balance issue. It must be decently hard for zerg to get up worms because the potential in nydus worms are stupid high. A small tweak might be enough to push zerg players into finally starting using it though. I never got why it was so rare in WoL. Or well I get why it was rare in the early/mid game but why in late game? Why would you not want to have 1-3 nydus worms up once you are maxed and got 1k+ resources banked. Quicker reinforcements, easier to defend drops/counter attacks, map control, taking weird bases, setting up flanks etc. Conclusion: All Zerg players are stupid and I am the only one that gets it! | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
On March 19 2013 07:12 4ZakeN87 wrote: About the nydus, I am not sure. Well I guess you could tweak it a little bit but in my head I could see how it quickly would go from not being used to become a major balance issue. It must be decently hard for zerg to get up worms because the potential in nydus worms are stupid high. A small tweak might be enough to push zerg players into finally starting using it though. I never got why it was so rare in WoL. Or well I get why it was rare in the early/mid game but why in late game? Why would you not want to have 1-3 nydus worms up once you are maxed and got 1k+ resources banked. Quicker reinforcements, easier to defend drops/counter attacks, map control, taking weird bases, setting up flanks etc. Conclusion: All Zerg players are stupid and I am the only one that gets it! I guess in the late game it is mainly the long unload time. The armies in late game are large and transporting one such can take a long time (which negates sme of the desired benefit which is saving time). This together with the risk of getting your army split if the enemy finds you in time makes it probably not worth the risk. Just walking over is also very fast with zerg speed and does not split your army (less chance of getting cought out of position). | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On March 19 2013 06:55 Bobgrimly wrote: THIS ^^^^^^^^. Gives you a choice to use as a standard corruptor or suicide for high damage. Maybe nerf their standard damage even. Something anything is better than the current corruptor. Make broodlords evolve from muta and there is no problems. Corruptors become all about aa. (as in you don't need to produce them if you don't need aa... ie you can go muta and straight to broodlord without having to build a worthless unit against ground armies you might be facing.) This sounds pretty cool actually, but I fear that this would destroy Protoss. The most annoying thing about corruptors remains that they still play a big part in dealing with colossus and while kamikazing them into colossus would make me as a zerg very happy, it would mean Protoss have nothing that could deal with the Roach/Hydra army on their doorstep. | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
Sometimes you guys just baffle me. The game has been out for a week and you talk about balance. Come back in 1 or 2 months when people might have started figuring stuff out. | ||
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Snorkels
United States1015 Posts
Good response by David Kim/Blizzard. I expect hots to settle down faster than wol with macro abilities already almost to peak potential, we should start seeing top-level play begin in the nearish future, but for everyone the strategy side has huge uncharted zones. I can't wait to see the first Thorzain or SlayersHellions though :D | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On March 19 2013 01:32 Plansix wrote: agree with this right here.As I said in another thread, I love DK for this. I hope they consider boosting the other races agressive abilities if it is necessary, rather than nerfing medivacs. More scouting, more agression and less turtling. Give protoss cheaper warp prisim speed out of the cyber core and zerg cheaper drops. Then make sure everyone has the ability to see this stuff coming if they put in the effort. Make the best defense a good offense and everyone will be happy. I totally agree with david kim. I like how they're taking another approach then i heard they took during the beginning of wol. Oh, and before i forget: especially during the games between flash and life, i really got the feeling the players were stretched to the limit of their mechanical abilities; or at least more so that in WOL. It would be great if it's possible to keep it that way. On March 19 2013 07:28 decaf wrote: also, this.I don't understand how people even draw the conclusion that ANY race is overpowered at the moment. Have you actually watched the games? You guys claim everyone lost to speed medivacs while the opponent clearly lost the game way before they had any effect on the game. Have you people actually taken a look at the mlg line up? There were 3 good protosses, 2 good zergs and 6 good terrans in the round of 32. Why are you still taking foreigners and low tier koreans into consideration? Sometimes you guys just baffle me. The game has been out for a week and you talk about balance. Come back in 1 or 2 months when people might have started figuring stuff out. Foreigners should be taken into account, but only if good enough compared to the players they're facing. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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rice_devOurer
United States773 Posts
On March 19 2013 01:32 hellokittySC2 wrote: i don't know *fun to watch* for medivac speed is the correct correlation to balance. He was talking about tvt imo. And as he said. " nobody is close to figuring the game it yet. | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
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