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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 15 2013 13:06 ThePlayer33 wrote: MMA won iron squid I is probably more significant than IEM.... It's listed by when they won their first premier on that continent, not importance. His IEM win was in January and Iron Squid was in May. That's why they list GSL January 2011 as Mvp's Premier Korean win. It was his first GSL win | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
Life is fucking crazy. I had not a clue who he was until recently. I guess that's what I get for being away for 5 months. EDIT: 98 days?! | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 15 2013 13:25 TommyP wrote: On all the polls, I voted yes and 10,000$ (wait was that for first only?) I meant total, think I should make another poll? | ||
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nichan
United States158 Posts
On February 15 2013 13:13 stuchiu wrote: IEM runs qualifiers. Valencia and Red Bull were both invites only. Prize pool is nice, but if that's a qualifier then the Lyn's 20,000+ dollar tourney in China would have to be counted higher than MMA's Anaheim. You can say the skill level at Red Bull and Valencia was higher than say IEM Singapore. But we still have to exclude invitationals as they give an unfair advantage as potential players never got the chance to ever participate. The real question is what we think are requirements for a tournament to be considered a premier tournament. Here are some polls to think about: Poll: How much Prize Money is needed to consider a Tournament Premier? 10,000 (12) 20,000 or more (8) 15,000 (3) 5,000 (1) 24 total votes Your vote: How much Prize Money is needed to consider a Tournament Premier? (Vote): 5,000 Poll: Does a Premier Tournament need Qualifiers Yes (23) No (3) 26 total votes Your vote: Does a Premier Tournament need Qualifiers Poll: Does a Premeir tournament need Korean participation? Yes (23) No (4) 27 total votes Your vote: Does a Premeir tournament need Korean participation? Poll: Does a Premeir Tournament need English coverage? No (19) Yes (8) 27 total votes Your vote: Does a Premeir Tournament need English coverage? I still don't think winning 3 tournaments in different years shouldn't be consider a triple crown in my opinion it should be something harder to obtain like the kentucky triple crown, win three premier events in one year. sorry don't know how to add spoilers | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On February 15 2013 14:22 nichan wrote: I still don't think winning 3 tournaments in different years shouldn't be consider a triple crown in my opinion it should be something harder to obtain like the kentucky triple crown, win three premier events in one year. sorry don't know how to add spoilers Actually, if you want it to be like the horse racing triple crown, it won't be three premier events in one year. You would have to win the 3 specific events (Kentucky, Preakness, Belmont). | ||
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yurta
Canada91 Posts
ie. GSL / MLG / IEM no ironsquids / HSC / redbulls. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On February 14 2013 19:10 Seeker wrote: Some of these guys fit in even more categories if you think about it  However, none REALLY have conquered all. I dont think anyone has Sen's continent conquered. | ||
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kottbullar
Australia489 Posts
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On February 15 2013 14:32 yurta wrote: I like the concept, but a Triple Crown is always the same races three races, so in theory it should be the same 3 tournaments ie. GSL / MLG / IEM no ironsquids / HSC / redbulls. Id add Dreamhack to that list of the "big 3" and IPL. Making it, win any 3 of these 5 :p | ||
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nichan
United States158 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On February 15 2013 14:39 nichan wrote: I think thats how it should be three really top quality hard to win tournaments/ of curse we include GSL/ and then two more tournaments where the competition is so stacked that winning all three of them in one year should be almost imposible that way we only get elite players to be worthy of such title. I agree, GSL/OSL/BWC are the three most prestigous tournaments. If you win all of those in one calendar year, thats freaking insane. We probably would never have a triple crown winner, but there hasnt been on in horse racing for decades so its cool. Of course this all depends if blizzard will do a world championship series or not. | ||
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nichan
United States158 Posts
On February 15 2013 14:47 TommyP wrote: I agree, GSL/OSL/BWC are the three most prestigous tournaments. If you win all of those in one calendar year, thats freaking insane. We probably would never have a triple crown winner, but there hasnt been on in horse racing for decades so its cool. Of course this all depends if blizzard will do a world championship series or not. But just imagine if there was to be a winner of all three in one year. and then another one in 4/5 years the excitement and hype imagine someone get close by winning two and how good of a roller coaster that would be and how sad if they fall on the last one. | ||
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jsemmens
United States439 Posts
On February 15 2013 14:39 nichan wrote: I think thats how it should be three really top quality hard to win tournaments/ of curse we include GSL/ and then two more tournaments where the competition is so stacked that winning all three of them in one year should be almost impossible that way we only get elite players to be worthy of such title. There are two reasons why I don't feel this is feasible: 1. This definition might have to be changed in the future. There is no guarantee that these tournaments will keep being held every year. If one of them discontinued then it would make it impossible for any new players to gain the achievement unless the requirements were changed, an undesirable thing (in my view). 2. In other sports (horse racing, etc.) the events are always scheduled so that they do not overlap. Therefore it is likely that a player/horse will get to play in every event on the circuit. In SC2, however, there is a good chance that the tournaments will conflict with each other (especially with GSL taking 3 months to play each season). By making it so that the event can be any premier event on a single continent, the players are given flexibility to attend an event that fits into their schedule. As far as it goes on whether or not a player can combine WoL tournaments and HoTS tournaments to make a triple crown, I haven't made up my mind. Honestly, I want to wait and see just how different HoTS is before deciding. | ||
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On February 15 2013 12:38 freeshooter wrote: So according to your logic, a bigger prize pool categorizes an event as as premier level tournament? What exactly decides an event being in the "premier" category? That's not my definition, TommyP just said he doesn't understand why IEMs are premier events because their prize pools are awful and I clarified that their prize pools are way bigger than the prize pool of an event he wanted to be a premier event. | ||
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Elwar
953 Posts
Need a Korean title: Huk, Stephano, Hero, Taeja, Puma --------------------- Hahahahaha, nice one OP ! | ||
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On February 15 2013 21:48 Elwar wrote: "Almost There" Need a Korean title: Huk, Stephano, Hero, Taeja, Puma --------------------- Hahahahaha, nice one OP ! Yeah, I chuckled too. Needing a NA event is one thing, needing a Korean event is 20. | ||
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