EPTIlIlIlIlIlIl or lIlIlIlIlIlI? - Page 5
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Nivoh
Norway259 Posts
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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leova
266 Posts
On February 02 2013 23:34 FineAndDandy wrote: Blizzard's unique account system made progamers have to do this. On February 02 2013 23:47 paralleluniverse wrote: The WoW naming policy disallows gibberish names: The same rule should be applied to SC2, and these accounts with barcode names should be forced to rename. At this point everything that's needed to maintain your privacy is there. You can set your account to only receive messages and invites from friends, which prevents spam, and you can set the game privacy to hide build orders. So there is no need to have barcode names. I firmly believe that barcodes are one of the things that are "killing e-sports", as it prevents players from having unique and marketable identities, prevents up-and-comers from making a name by sniping superstars, and makes ladders and standings-boards look stupid. Unique name systems appear in EVERY OTHER MULTIPLAYER GAME ON THE PLANET...why can't Starcraft 2 just do things properly? Now you have idiots smurfing other famous names, resulting in potentially dozens of Idras and WhiteRas all over the place.... Barcodes are a joke, and I have ZERO respect for anyone that hides behind one, even for practice purposes. Just man up, play legit, and rely on your superior skills, macro, and micro to win games! | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On February 03 2013 08:51 leova wrote: I firmly believe that barcodes are one of the things that are "killing e-sports", as it prevents players from having unique and marketable identities, prevents up-and-comers from making a name by sniping superstars, and makes ladders and standings-boards look stupid. Unique name systems appear in EVERY OTHER MULTIPLAYER GAME ON THE PLANET...why can't Starcraft 2 just do things properly? Now you have idiots smurfing other famous names, resulting in potentially dozens of Idras and WhiteRas all over the place.... Barcodes are a joke, and I have ZERO respect for anyone that hides behind one, even for practice purposes. Just man up, play legit, and rely on your superior skills, macro, and micro to win games! I think you wouldn't say that if your income would be depending on qualifiying for GSL or ranking high in it. Most pros can't afford to fly to every tournament on the planet and earn a million dollars. I'm at least happy that pros are still on the ladder and haven't vanished into their training games. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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crumunch
United States54 Posts
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Juice!
Belgium295 Posts
On February 03 2013 00:35 Zandar wrote: Why? Clearly there is a demand for anonymity. Instead, blizzard should provide them with a proper way of hiding their ladder games if they want, instead of forcing them to be public. The choice should be with the player. blizzard did ... create a custom game in Hots! you can pick between: show all // hide buildorder // show nothing at all | ||
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TJ31
630 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
Having even one piece of information of your opponent's style while the opponent has none is a free advantage in a ladder game. Which is obviously why everyone had to start doing this once one person did. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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alpenrahm
Germany628 Posts
gotta say i kinda like the idea of a couple hundreds of bobXXXXX, where X represents a number from 0-9. that would atleast give you a chance. | ||
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Fliparoni
205 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On February 02 2013 23:47 paralleluniverse wrote: The WoW naming policy disallows gibberish names: The same rule should be applied to SC2, and these accounts with barcode names should be forced to rename. At this point everything that's needed to maintain your privacy is there. You can set your account to only receive messages and invites from friends, which prevents spam, and you can set the game privacy to hide build orders. So there is no need to have barcode names. Um this wont solve this problem. Then we would have 300 users with same name of "candyman" or "random", whatever korean pros agree. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Rorra
Australia1066 Posts
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Hier
2391 Posts
On February 03 2013 07:28 Hier wrote: Wait, I thought you could have an exact name as any other guy, as long as your character code is different. Still confused as to what the point of the thread is, when the quoted statement makes the entire thing moot. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On February 03 2013 09:19 -TesteR- wrote: I love how any trash terran can easily make top 3. such a broken race. User was temp banned for this post. lol, the funny part, is it was a play on words. Number 3 on the list is a terran named "Trash". Moderator didn't pay attention to the OP... Or I just think dry humor is funny as heck.... | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
On February 03 2013 00:17 dynwar7 wrote: Are you really a forestry scientist, Orek? Only in this thread, figuratively, however awkward one it is. On February 03 2013 00:28 Blaine wrote: High school math should have taught you that u can simply do 2^12  On February 03 2013 02:41 FakePseudo wrote: Wow man. This has close to no importance, but it just makes me sick to see this when you could obviously just do 2^12 (twelve positions that could either be a R or q, with no influence between position or other rules). This brings me to the point that barcodes could obviously be handled with binary logic and calculus. We could dig through this. Even if i agree that 6-6 (1,3,5,7,9,11) tells more than 2730, identifying every barcode to a 0-4095 number through its binary value could simplify dealing with all this data. On February 03 2013 05:14 algorithm0r wrote: Great article Orek. Your math with combinations is correct but too long. Use permutations. There are 2 letters and 12 spaces means 2^12 = 4096 permutations. On February 03 2013 09:15 crumunch wrote: Hey, it's cool that you did out how many different ways you can make the barcode name, but you over complicated the math. It's much easier to say that you have two choices for every character, so there are 2^12 = 4096 ways of doing it. Ah. I look like an idiot now Originally, it was even more detailed because I included a section that analyzed things based on number of "capital i /ai/"s. Now that I scrapped the section because it didn't turn out to be interesting, I should have discarded the idea of categorizing patterns based on the number of "capital i /ai/"s. I was too preoccupied. Not a good idea to do math on TL without anyone else checking it beforehand. Thank you all for pointing out. I add =2^12 to the OP.On February 03 2013 00:42 Targe wrote: Orek, this is amazing as usual. The notation you devise each time always confuses me though. Thank you, and don't worry. I try my best to find the most concise notation/naming rule, but I often get confused by my own creation as well. On February 03 2013 00:52 steelcurtain09 wrote: I like the idea of encoding birthdays into your barcode. You can treat each four i/l's as a hex digit. So for example I am born April 27th so my encoding would be qRqqqqqRRqRR. Of course you're left with three middle digits that will never be used. There is definitely a lot of undiscovered potential for individuality in barcode naming. That's very smart. I like it. I guess April 27th should have been qqRqqqqRRqRR. Much better than my birthday idea. Nice! On February 03 2013 02:36 LunaSea wrote: I'm currently programming a piece of software that can identify a player by analyzing stats in replays like APM at different times of a game depending on match-ups and then calculates the standard deviation of those stats with an "official" replay of that specific player. This would defeat the purpose of using barcode names. Public enemy No.1 for Union of Barcode Players. Now, I am not the one. This guy is. On February 03 2013 07:37 ajxPurpleRain wrote: Great post, but I do feel that the L/el i/ai format you use to explain the concept actually complicates the matter rather than enlightening us. Lowercase "L" and uppercase "I" would have done the trick. The extra slash makes a difference. Also, Chesterton is a sanctimonious toool, but otherwise, good work. We might be seeing a whole lot more of these names with the name change buff, too. P.S. The new ultimate try-hard gold league ladder name: Liquid'lIIlIlIlIlI I felt /el/ /ai/ were redundant as well, but I went ahead anyways. Thank for the feedback. I will give more thoughts in future threads. I learned a new word "sanctimonious" today. Having a good and relevant enough introduction has always been a challenge for me. Bear with me for more sanctimonious introductions in future!! On February 03 2013 09:19 -TesteR- wrote: From ABL: -TesteR- was just temp banned for 30 daysI love how any trash terran can easily make top 3. such a broken race. User was temp banned for this post. A risky joke if you have a history of balance whining(?). A courageous try I must say. | ||
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