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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
February 03 2013 07:29 GMT
#101
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dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
February 03 2013 07:52 GMT
#102
On February 03 2013 16:29 Sated wrote:
Okay, I entirely understand why pro-level players need to do this, because they want to try and hide their current builds/playstyle from opponents that they might meet in tournament play...

... but why do people at my level, which is mid-high Masters if you're being kind, feel the need to use barcode names..?


Different people are different, of course.
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 08:16:48
February 03 2013 08:07 GMT
#103
On February 03 2013 11:00 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 09:19 -TesteR- wrote:
I love how any trash terran can easily make top 3. such a broken race.

User was temp banned for this post.


lol, the funny part, is it was a play on words. Number 3 on the list is a terran named "Trash". Moderator didn't pay attention to the OP...

Or I just think dry humor is funny as heck....

It's dangerous to throw the word "trash" around in TL!

Edit: On topic though haha, Blizzard's probably still trying to find ways around the problem. There was an interview with David Kim last year where he said "Barcode IDs are extremely common on the Korean ladder nowadays. If there was a way to improve the protection of personal privacy, I guess players wouldn't have to use barcodes anymore. I feel that the flood of barcode IDs is not a good thing, and we've been troubling over ways to solve this problem."

Personally, I feel a simple way around this would probably be to give the option to go anonymous when playing, though I could see people having issues with this too.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 03 2013 08:13 GMT
#104
On February 03 2013 16:29 Sated wrote:
Okay, I entirely understand why pro-level players need to do this, because they want to try and hide their current builds/playstyle from opponents that they might meet in tournament play...

... but why do people at my level, which is mid-high Masters if you're being kind, feel the need to use barcode names..?


To me there seem to be two possibilities as to why people below pro level would feel the need to use a barcode name. The first, and least likely, ladder is stressful and they can't deal too well with losing. Under a barcode name, they have no personality, they're like a faceless Anon save for their race, which puts less pressure on them to win than would playing under an original, recognizable account name.

The second, and the one I would tend to find as more prevalent, they want to be cool. Barcode names are the in thing now, just like 2 years ago it was naming yourself EGIdrA even though you were in silver and playing Protoss. It's the same thing as playing as 13 year old on Xbox live naming themselves xXxMLG_qUiCkScOpE_360xXx or xXx545UK3_UCH1H4xXx, they perceive that to be cool and trendy and stick with it because they want attention and validation. As opposed to just fucking playing the game and enjoying it.

That's my theory at least. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 08:25:24
February 03 2013 08:24 GMT
#105
oops wrong thread.
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
February 03 2013 08:34 GMT
#106
On February 03 2013 08:51 leova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 23:34 FineAndDandy wrote:

Blizzard's unique account system made progamers have to do this.

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 23:47 paralleluniverse wrote:
The WoW naming policy disallows gibberish names:
Pure Gibberish
This category includes names which:

Consist of a string of letters which do not produce a pronounceable name (e.g. Asdfasdf, Jjxccm, Hvlldrm)

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/naming-policy

The same rule should be applied to SC2, and these accounts with barcode names should be forced to rename.

At this point everything that's needed to maintain your privacy is there. You can set your account to only receive messages and invites from friends, which prevents spam, and you can set the game privacy to hide build orders. So there is no need to have barcode names.



I firmly believe that barcodes are one of the things that are "killing e-sports", as it prevents players from having unique and marketable identities, prevents up-and-comers from making a name by sniping superstars, and makes ladders and standings-boards look stupid.


Unique name systems appear in EVERY OTHER MULTIPLAYER GAME ON THE PLANET...why can't Starcraft 2 just do things properly? Now you have idiots smurfing other famous names, resulting in potentially dozens of Idras and WhiteRas all over the place....


Barcodes are a joke, and I have ZERO respect for anyone that hides behind one, even for practice purposes. Just man up, play legit, and rely on your superior skills, macro, and micro to win games!



how is barcodes killing esports? since when has ladder been esports? the pros always use either their "real named" account or the overlay shows the players id for the veiwers. disallowing barcodes would be like any real sport saying "hey you have to give everyone a copy of ur playlist and video of ur practices so that other teams can study you" like come on the ladder and the esports scene arent really connected at all. how many GM players arent even pros?
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 08:35:51
February 03 2013 08:35 GMT
#107
The people who use barcode names are stupid for two reasons:
1. (it doesn't apply to all of them, but the large majority) They don't chose all the same standard name, defeating any purpose of anonymity

2. They make up some new name (this "barcode" name), instead of choosing one of the most common names already, like "Zerg" or "anonymous" or something (on NA I know there were lots of "Kevin"s or something.

By making a barcode name unique, you're making yourself more obvious and identifiable; why would anyone want that when supposedly the whole point is to be more anonymous.

I don't see the point of the OP's post.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
February 03 2013 08:38 GMT
#108
On February 03 2013 17:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 16:29 Sated wrote:
Okay, I entirely understand why pro-level players need to do this, because they want to try and hide their current builds/playstyle from opponents that they might meet in tournament play...

... but why do people at my level, which is mid-high Masters if you're being kind, feel the need to use barcode names..?


To me there seem to be two possibilities as to why people below pro level would feel the need to use a barcode name. The first, and least likely, ladder is stressful and they can't deal too well with losing. Under a barcode name, they have no personality, they're like a faceless Anon save for their race, which puts less pressure on them to win than would playing under an original, recognizable account name.

The second, and the one I would tend to find as more prevalent, they want to be cool. Barcode names are the in thing now, just like 2 years ago it was naming yourself EGIdrA even though you were in silver and playing Protoss. It's the same thing as playing as 13 year old on Xbox live naming themselves xXxMLG_qUiCkScOpE_360xXx or xXx545UK3_UCH1H4xXx, they perceive that to be cool and trendy and stick with it because they want attention and validation. As opposed to just fucking playing the game and enjoying it.

That's my theory at least. :/


or people like me who use it at masters level have a distinct style they play in match-ups ( for example always go mutas vs t or always go for drops vs toss) and at masters level you do run into players often and they dont want to be just randomly countered by someone they played. i know i will always counter the build my opponent did last time i faced him because 80% of people on ladder do 1 build per match up
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 03 2013 08:41 GMT
#109
On February 03 2013 17:38 psychotics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 17:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 03 2013 16:29 Sated wrote:
Okay, I entirely understand why pro-level players need to do this, because they want to try and hide their current builds/playstyle from opponents that they might meet in tournament play...

... but why do people at my level, which is mid-high Masters if you're being kind, feel the need to use barcode names..?


To me there seem to be two possibilities as to why people below pro level would feel the need to use a barcode name. The first, and least likely, ladder is stressful and they can't deal too well with losing. Under a barcode name, they have no personality, they're like a faceless Anon save for their race, which puts less pressure on them to win than would playing under an original, recognizable account name.

The second, and the one I would tend to find as more prevalent, they want to be cool. Barcode names are the in thing now, just like 2 years ago it was naming yourself EGIdrA even though you were in silver and playing Protoss. It's the same thing as playing as 13 year old on Xbox live naming themselves xXxMLG_qUiCkScOpE_360xXx or xXx545UK3_UCH1H4xXx, they perceive that to be cool and trendy and stick with it because they want attention and validation. As opposed to just fucking playing the game and enjoying it.

That's my theory at least. :/


or people like me who use it at masters level have a distinct style they play in match-ups ( for example always go mutas vs t or always go for drops vs toss) and at masters level you do run into players often and they dont want to be just randomly countered by someone they played. i know i will always counter the build my opponent did last time i faced him because 80% of people on ladder do 1 build per match up


Well if we're looking solely at Master league and not the ladder in general then yes, that's a possibility as well.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
February 03 2013 09:40 GMT
#110
On February 03 2013 17:38 psychotics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 17:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 03 2013 16:29 Sated wrote:
Okay, I entirely understand why pro-level players need to do this, because they want to try and hide their current builds/playstyle from opponents that they might meet in tournament play...

... but why do people at my level, which is mid-high Masters if you're being kind, feel the need to use barcode names..?


To me there seem to be two possibilities as to why people below pro level would feel the need to use a barcode name. The first, and least likely, ladder is stressful and they can't deal too well with losing. Under a barcode name, they have no personality, they're like a faceless Anon save for their race, which puts less pressure on them to win than would playing under an original, recognizable account name.

The second, and the one I would tend to find as more prevalent, they want to be cool. Barcode names are the in thing now, just like 2 years ago it was naming yourself EGIdrA even though you were in silver and playing Protoss. It's the same thing as playing as 13 year old on Xbox live naming themselves xXxMLG_qUiCkScOpE_360xXx or xXx545UK3_UCH1H4xXx, they perceive that to be cool and trendy and stick with it because they want attention and validation. As opposed to just fucking playing the game and enjoying it.

That's my theory at least. :/


or people like me who use it at masters level have a distinct style they play in match-ups ( for example always go mutas vs t or always go for drops vs toss) and at masters level you do run into players often and they dont want to be just randomly countered by someone they played. i know i will always counter the build my opponent did last time i faced him because 80% of people on ladder do 1 build per match up

So instead of just playing the mind games that come along with facing the same opponent again, you choose to give yourself an advantage by hiding your ID, while still hard countering your opponent's previous build. Very classy bro.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 10:14:10
February 03 2013 10:13 GMT
#111
Lmfao at barcode hate, its hillarious.

1) Progamers are given time to prepare against opponents in the GSL and other tournaments.

2) Korean and probably some other teams have people dedicated to analysing opponents

3) Players will analyse their opponents also and learn their playstyles (even if not currently matched up vs them) if they play against them often enough, this is why when you see people play against others of the same team, its often always mentioned as a factor.

Playing on ladder under their own name is extremely detrimental, under barcode they can try / test and play new things without fear of it being completely counteracted.

Also, Why the fuck does it matter to you if they call themselves IIIIIIIIIII or Beerbong420? Every single name on ladder could be fake. IMLosira? Probably MVP, IMNestea? Stephano.

Useless wet fish.
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
February 03 2013 10:18 GMT
#112
Wow, an analysis on barcode names. Did not expect that.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
February 03 2013 10:30 GMT
#113
On February 03 2013 17:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 16:29 Sated wrote:
Okay, I entirely understand why pro-level players need to do this, because they want to try and hide their current builds/playstyle from opponents that they might meet in tournament play...

... but why do people at my level, which is mid-high Masters if you're being kind, feel the need to use barcode names..?

The second, and the one I would tend to find as more prevalent, they want to be cool. Barcode names are the in thing now, just like 2 years ago it was naming yourself EGIdrA even though you were in silver and playing Protoss. It's the same thing as playing as 13 year old on Xbox live naming themselves xXxMLG_qUiCkScOpE_360xXx or xXx545UK3_UCH1H4xXx, they perceive that to be cool and trendy and stick with it because they want attention and validation. As opposed to just fucking playing the game and enjoying it.

That's my theory at least. :/

I agree with your theory. lllllllllllll is hip, it's cool, it's now. People want to be recognized without actually being recognized...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
February 03 2013 10:44 GMT
#114
Incredibly detailed analysis on something interesting. Sad it turned to hate and flames.
Been an interesting phenomenon in gaming the past year or two.
On February 03 2013 19:13 Capped wrote:

Also, Why the fuck does it matter to you if they call themselves IIIIIIIIIII or Beerbong420? Every single name on ladder could be fake. IMLosira? Probably MVP, IMNestea? Stephano.



Variations on BeerBong420 as new barcode "it" thing plz.
tabeatz
Profile Joined October 2012
United States83 Posts
February 03 2013 10:56 GMT
#115
Top barcodes on EU are Naniwa and lucifron.
For the love of the game
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
February 03 2013 10:59 GMT
#116
On February 03 2013 16:29 Sated wrote:
Okay, I entirely understand why pro-level players need to do this, because they want to try and hide their current builds/playstyle from opponents that they might meet in tournament play...

... but why do people at my level, which is mid-high Masters if you're being kind, feel the need to use barcode names..?

I use it because I use 1 build for each mu, and it's not rare that I meet the same people. After 2 games they start ro blibdcounter me.
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
February 03 2013 11:10 GMT
#117
I always cringe when I meet barcode nick names at my diamond level.
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Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
February 03 2013 12:42 GMT
#118
On February 03 2013 20:10 Anta wrote:
I always cringe when I meet barcode nick names at my diamond level.

Why? Whats the difference with a name like "smurf"?
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 13:18:19
February 03 2013 13:18 GMT
#119
Yet another thread discussing semantics. Wow.
oh, hai
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
February 03 2013 13:27 GMT
#120
Well making barcode names at lower leagues still makes some sense to me. It still achieves the same purpose of not giving the opponent expectations about how they play. If BobtheBuilder went Stargate opening every game, people would remember and be better prepared. Although, if there aren't hardly any other barcode names at his MMR then people would still associate his barcode+race with him.
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