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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 31 2013 19:00 GMT
#181
On February 01 2013 03:53 blade55555 wrote:
Stupid can't believe that it's invite only. Doesn't affect me but such a joke for up and comer players who could go but now can't play cause MLG made this dumb decision.

I hope you guys change this as this is very very very disappointing to see. Hopefully this is just a one time thing I will tune in if some good zergs I like qualify still of course ^^.


Their reasoning behind not having an open bracket due to the HotS release 3 days before the event is sound and logical. You should read up on it and I think you will be far less upset about the matter.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 19:00 GMT
#182
looks cool; excited to watch.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
January 31 2013 19:02 GMT
#183
I love watching MLG event's this should be a blast!

That being said, even though I understand the logistics behind the decision, no open bracket feels like a pretty big step backward :/ Looking forward to seeing what your (MLG's) plans are for the rest of the year.
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
January 31 2013 19:02 GMT
#184
On February 01 2013 03:48 MLG John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:01 goswser wrote:
This map pool is also a horrible joke. Most of the HOTS maps are so bad none of them are fit for competition.


That's something that really remains to be seen, which is why we've decided to include 11 Maps in our Winter Season Showdowns. There's very little data when it comes to Maps being played in HotS tournaments. In fact, I would argue that there is none.

Each Player is allowed 3 Vetoes in their Showdown and we will use the Veto/Results data from these Showdowns to decide on our Map Pool of 7 for the Winter Championship.

Unfortunately in all but the most extreme cases, players just veto maps they are unfamiliar with, so relying on vetoes for data on which maps are not fit for competitive play will have us playing on Cloud Kingdom, Daybreak and Ohana until the end of time.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 19:25:00
January 31 2013 19:03 GMT
#185
On February 01 2013 03:53 blade55555 wrote:
Stupid can't believe that it's invite only. Doesn't affect me but such a joke for up and comer players who could go but now can't play cause MLG made this dumb decision.

I hope you guys change this as this is very very very disappointing to see. Hopefully this is just a one time thing I will tune in if some good zergs I like qualify still of course ^^.


http://twitter.yfrog.com/macmffdtppkndyoxvellefalz

That video* explains why there is no online open qualifier. And of course future seasons will have open aspects. Since this is HotS and it takes place days after HotS is released, this makes sense.
Wahaha
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
January 31 2013 19:04 GMT
#186
Strange that Jaedong is not on the list. I would think EG would want him at all the major foreign events. I believe it's an off week for Proleague too.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 31 2013 19:06 GMT
#187
I like this, insanely high-level matches, and honestly, at MLG the open bracket usually gets us one or two players that end high up and the rest get rolled in the groups.

These matches will be very exciting, my favorite style tourney is mostly invite with a couple qualifying spots, but with this level of competition I don't. Should be a hell of a tournament with the Top 32 battling it out after (in a double Elim format?)... I guess only thing I miss is Lucifron or Vortex playing, either way, go MLG!
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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
January 31 2013 19:08 GMT
#188
I'm really looking forward to what HoTS has to offer!

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 31 2013 19:08 GMT
#189
You're not doing First person-view any more, right?
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Baptista
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Poland141 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 19:14:41
January 31 2013 19:14 GMT
#190
its gonna be fun
Edit: hope production value will step up
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 31 2013 19:15 GMT
#191
On February 01 2013 02:50 Plansix wrote:
Adam, I agree with everything you are saying and it might be a nightmare trying to set up an event 3 days after the release of HotS. The only thing worse than not having an Open Bracket would be trying to run one and having it crash and burn because of some problem with HotS that is beyond your control. I glad to hear you guys are focusing on putting on the highest quality show possible for HotS, rather than assuming that it will all just work day one.

Though I respect that people are disappointed, there are limits to what these MLG can do with HotS being released 3 days befor the event. It is only one event and rather than being upset that the open bracket isn't there, folks should be reassured that MLG is taking the time to make sure we get a smooth show.


This. People, MLG might not be perfect (invites are WoL earned, at least somewhat), but they aren't trying to screw the game over, and it's completely legitimate that they can't hold online qualifiers on a volatile BETA.

Stop crucifying them as evil.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33665 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 19:16:14
January 31 2013 19:16 GMT
#192
On February 01 2013 02:15 BronzeKnee wrote:
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On February 01 2013 02:12 SkaPunk wrote:
Don't really want to watch it if there are no open brackets.


Yeah me too... this replacement of the open bracket is... well nothing really replaced it.


....right

because you all enjoyed watching watching games like HuK vs NadaViking, TubbyTheFat vs Crank, and Daisuki vs Kirschke so much
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
January 31 2013 19:16 GMT
#193
On February 01 2013 04:16 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:15 BronzeKnee wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:12 SkaPunk wrote:
Don't really want to watch it if there are no open brackets.


Yeah me too... this replacement of the open bracket is... well nothing really replaced it.


....right

because you all enjoyed watching watching games like HuK vs NadaViking, TubbyTheFat vs Crank, and Daisuki vs Kirschke so much


I did enjoy watching that series of KiF1rE vs Vibe....
MyFirstProbe
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 19:20:16
January 31 2013 19:19 GMT
#194
On February 01 2013 03:57 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:53 Plansix wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:47 MLG_Adam wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:45 KAB00000000M wrote:
Bomber and Flash holy moly! (In addition to all the other awesome players) Best tournament ever! And HotS. I am looking forward to this!


Thank you, I needed that


Adam, I am also pumped. You have a great line up and I am excited to see the show you folks put on. Are you folks streaming through Twitch? I hope so, since theirIphone app works with my Apple TV. If not, I will find another way to watch, but I have a 46 inch TV that really should have MLG on it.


Thank you

It will be streamed exclusively on Twitch and we have some pretty amazing broadcast details to share. I guarantee not a single person will bitch about it.


You got to be kidding me, there is always someone out there that will bitch about it, be it just the sake of bitching.

Edit: Will the next MLG have an open bracket/open qualification? Because I understand that it is hard right now, because of the release dat and such, but for next MLG that shouldn't be a problem?
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
January 31 2013 19:19 GMT
#195
Oh my God this looks amazing. ;_; Glad to see Heart of the Swarm is starting off big!
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 19:19:44
January 31 2013 19:19 GMT
#196
Was there this much revolt when there was no open bracket at IPL 5? I don't remember. It's funny now with IPL 6 there is still no open bracket for their WoL tourney, but they've been trying to rub it in mlg's faces on twitter that they have an open bracket for their Hots tourney.

It's sad MKP has to play Gumiho! They should both be there!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
January 31 2013 19:20 GMT
#197
On February 01 2013 03:54 MLG John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:15 iNcontroL wrote:
This thread is odd to me.

They say the reasons they can't do online quals/open bracket (which they have championed in the past) is because of instability across all the regions.. most people accept that. I don't really see anyone saying the reasoning for that isn't good enough.

Then I read a bunch of vague posts about how the picks are biased and no open bracket is bad. When has an invite tourney EVER made everyone happy? It simply isn't possible.. so if we accept the reasoning for why the invites are there, can't we be happy for the tourney itself? I mean, they are doing a hybrid tourney in the sense that there is at least 1 round of qualification which means a full 2x people get a crack at this as opposed to just a straight invite to an offline tourney?

Demu wasn't invited, our koreans... yet I can still look at this and say "ok." Ever wonder why Ddoro (inactive) and fenix are invited amongst others? Probably some point system behind that right? It isn't like MLG is super tight with Ddoro... come on.

I am obviously very sad about no open bracket.. but after hearing their reasoning and thinking about it.. I have come to a place where I can accept this for Dallas.

I know this thread doesn't speak for all of sc2 but I wish more of us would think on a more rational level as opposed to just jumping to boycott or get pissed


Geoff Robinson 2016


Actually, having another opinion than INcontrol doesnt mean it is irrational.
HOTS is a big thing. I have much expectations, i want new players. I always want newcomers etc. I'm sick of the same old "progamers" that had the "luck" (and ofc skill) to be well-known in the beginning of sc2 and since then they didnt accomplish anything (exept maybe bad manners).

IMHO they had better to wait for anoher month, then do an open (online) qualification. Because a lot of people (including me), think HOTS is the BIG opportunity for SC2 to finally change something.. New players, new chances, new stories, new gameplay!

Instead its all the old stuff, boring format, same players, just hots..

Bad start for HOTS.
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 19:21:43
January 31 2013 19:20 GMT
#198
T_T Not really a fan of this..... but I guess it's ok because they have Flash there? lol
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Rainman5419
Profile Joined January 2011
United States92 Posts
January 31 2013 19:20 GMT
#199
I understand why they got rid of open brackets(ratings/viewer numbers) but I don't like it. Lesser known/up and coming players have lost a big opportunity to make a name for themselves with these MLG changes. I understand the view with HotS being so new also causing problems for an open bracket. I just hope it makes a return soon.

That said I'll still probably be there and watching.
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ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
January 31 2013 19:20 GMT
#200
On February 01 2013 04:06 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I like this, insanely high-level matches, and honestly, at MLG the open bracket usually gets us one or two players that end high up and the rest get rolled in the groups.

These matches will be very exciting, my favorite style tourney is mostly invite with a couple qualifying spots, but with this level of competition I don't. Should be a hell of a tournament with the Top 32 battling it out after (in a double Elim format?)... I guess only thing I miss is Lucifron or Vortex playing, either way, go MLG!


Totally agree, unless the open bracket itself has some insane players that look like they can go all the way! Having said that, an open bracket is important in future so more people can break out onto the scene.
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