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[MLG] Winter Season featuring Heart of the Swarm - Page 9

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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
January 31 2013 18:44 GMT
#161
nothing wrong with having invites and making an invitational


invitationals are biased. maybe I will see flash playing, other than that I will be with the eagles stream.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 31 2013 18:44 GMT
#162
On February 01 2013 03:37 MLG_Adam wrote:
Keep in mind that players from every region declined invites.


Adam, you may want to talk about making it a practice to post the players that were invited and declined. I think people would ask fewer questions about the process. I know there are reasons not to publish the invites, but it should be something that should be discussed. Everyone at least understands why players decline invites and people like it when events are up front.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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aceofspadess
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland84 Posts
January 31 2013 18:45 GMT
#163
7 North america spots... Not really going to watch this with this quality of players.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2144 Posts
January 31 2013 18:45 GMT
#164
Bomber and Flash holy moly! (In addition to all the other awesome players) Best tournament ever! And HotS. I am looking forward to this!
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 31 2013 18:47 GMT
#165
On February 01 2013 03:45 KAB00000000M wrote:
Bomber and Flash holy moly! (In addition to all the other awesome players) Best tournament ever! And HotS. I am looking forward to this!


Thank you, I needed that
Twitter: MrAdamAp
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 31 2013 18:47 GMT
#166
The price pool looks pretty good for MLG, looking forward to this
For some reason I'm really hyped for HotS.
Get off my lawn, young punks
bobsire
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada296 Posts
January 31 2013 18:47 GMT
#167
this is awesome! can't wait.
MLG John
Profile Joined January 2012
United States34 Posts
January 31 2013 18:48 GMT
#168
On February 01 2013 03:01 goswser wrote:
This map pool is also a horrible joke. Most of the HOTS maps are so bad none of them are fit for competition.


That's something that really remains to be seen, which is why we've decided to include 11 Maps in our Winter Season Showdowns. There's very little data when it comes to Maps being played in HotS tournaments. In fact, I would argue that there is none.

Each Player is allowed 3 Vetoes in their Showdown and we will use the Veto/Results data from these Showdowns to decide on our Map Pool of 7 for the Winter Championship.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
January 31 2013 18:48 GMT
#169
hohohoho if stephano and grubby win their matches you got my moniez. Flash/Stephano/Grubby all my favorite players with respect to each race :D !!!!
JD, need I say more? :D
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 31 2013 18:50 GMT
#170
On February 01 2013 03:48 MLG John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:01 goswser wrote:
This map pool is also a horrible joke. Most of the HOTS maps are so bad none of them are fit for competition.


That's something that really remains to be seen, which is why we've decided to include 11 Maps in our Winter Season Showdowns. There's very little data when it comes to Maps being played in HotS tournaments. In fact, I would argue that there is none.

Each Player is allowed 3 Vetoes in their Showdown and we will use the Veto/Results data from these Showdowns to decide on our Map Pool of 7 for the Winter Championship.

Looks like a good way to do this. There is actually no way to know which maps are really good for HotS, as there are so few really top level players playing the beta seriously right now.
Get off my lawn, young punks
UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
January 31 2013 18:53 GMT
#171
On February 01 2013 03:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:41 UmbraaeternuS wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:37 MLG_Adam wrote:
Keep in mind that players from every region declined invites.


Of course they did. For example, flying from here (latin america) to the US is pretty damn expensive, and the tournament setup is really not that player-friendly... Teams or players won't risk investing in expensive air tickets and hotel reservations if they see no benefit. It's not that much of a "whoa, I don't like that tournament setup" but "whoa, what's in it for our team and me as a player, and what are the benefits?"...

Like I said previously, I think the experiment being undertaken is interesting, but too hurting to newcomers and underdogs, and most of all, to teams in general... :/



The winners of the qualifier matches are all flown to dallas and provided hotel. All 32 players will have a fully paid trip.


I stand corrected, my good sir. My sincerest apologies for my reckless and uninformed opinion.
Now THAT is interesting.
Why on God's earth would you reject an invite on those grounds? I'm baffled.
therealwinters - Skype / @DrUmbra - Twitter // "There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean "Day[9]" Plott <3
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 31 2013 18:53 GMT
#172
On February 01 2013 03:47 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:45 KAB00000000M wrote:
Bomber and Flash holy moly! (In addition to all the other awesome players) Best tournament ever! And HotS. I am looking forward to this!


Thank you, I needed that


Adam, I am also pumped. You have a great line up and I am excited to see the show you folks put on. Are you folks streaming through Twitch? I hope so, since theirIphone app works with my Apple TV. If not, I will find another way to watch, but I have a 46 inch TV that really should have MLG on it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 18:56:13
January 31 2013 18:53 GMT
#173
Stupid can't believe that it's invite only. Doesn't affect me but such a joke for up and comer players who could go but now can't play cause MLG made this dumb decision.

I hope you guys change this as this is very very very disappointing to see. Hopefully this is just a one time thing I will tune in if some good zergs I like qualify still of course ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
magicallypuzzled
Profile Joined June 2011
United States588 Posts
January 31 2013 18:54 GMT
#174
ddoro and vibe representing root I'm happy and will be buying in. of course a root zerg in the tournament is reason enough to watch.
is depressed
MLG John
Profile Joined January 2012
United States34 Posts
January 31 2013 18:54 GMT
#175
On February 01 2013 03:15 iNcontroL wrote:
This thread is odd to me.

They say the reasons they can't do online quals/open bracket (which they have championed in the past) is because of instability across all the regions.. most people accept that. I don't really see anyone saying the reasoning for that isn't good enough.

Then I read a bunch of vague posts about how the picks are biased and no open bracket is bad. When has an invite tourney EVER made everyone happy? It simply isn't possible.. so if we accept the reasoning for why the invites are there, can't we be happy for the tourney itself? I mean, they are doing a hybrid tourney in the sense that there is at least 1 round of qualification which means a full 2x people get a crack at this as opposed to just a straight invite to an offline tourney?

Demu wasn't invited, our koreans... yet I can still look at this and say "ok." Ever wonder why Ddoro (inactive) and fenix are invited amongst others? Probably some point system behind that right? It isn't like MLG is super tight with Ddoro... come on.

I am obviously very sad about no open bracket.. but after hearing their reasoning and thinking about it.. I have come to a place where I can accept this for Dallas.

I know this thread doesn't speak for all of sc2 but I wish more of us would think on a more rational level as opposed to just jumping to boycott or get pissed


Geoff Robinson 2016
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
January 31 2013 18:54 GMT
#176
I like it going to watch as much as I can @_@
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
Rhodon
Profile Joined July 2011
United States51 Posts
January 31 2013 18:56 GMT
#177
On February 01 2013 03:47 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:45 KAB00000000M wrote:
Bomber and Flash holy moly! (In addition to all the other awesome players) Best tournament ever! And HotS. I am looking forward to this!


Thank you, I needed that


You do so much great work for MLG! I'm very much looking forward to this! Grubby fighting!
All a man needs is to love and to be loved
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 31 2013 18:57 GMT
#178
On February 01 2013 03:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:47 MLG_Adam wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:45 KAB00000000M wrote:
Bomber and Flash holy moly! (In addition to all the other awesome players) Best tournament ever! And HotS. I am looking forward to this!


Thank you, I needed that


Adam, I am also pumped. You have a great line up and I am excited to see the show you folks put on. Are you folks streaming through Twitch? I hope so, since theirIphone app works with my Apple TV. If not, I will find another way to watch, but I have a 46 inch TV that really should have MLG on it.


Thank you

It will be streamed exclusively on Twitch and we have some pretty amazing broadcast details to share. I guarantee not a single person will bitch about it.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 31 2013 18:58 GMT
#179
Well I guess a lot of tournament are gonna be a bit low by our standard during the transition to hots.
But indeed it's sad to see only invite.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 31 2013 18:59 GMT
#180
I'll still watch, just a bit disappointed at the lack of an open bracket. I loved the endurance aspect and some of the massive runs that came out of those. I understand wanting to change it up a bit, and the timing is so turbulent with HotS and the transitions that are going to come through in the next few months but hopefully down the line we will see some more opportunity to have less known players get some stream time as well.
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