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[Interview] Lastshadow with Project Dove! - Page 5

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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 00:00:22
January 25 2013 23:42 GMT
#81
On January 26 2013 08:15 ggrrg wrote:
I feel like a lot of people would benefit from reading this interview. It touches on multiple topics in a non-conventional way.


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On January 26 2013 07:48 ACrow wrote:
This looks like a well conducted and thorough interview (didn't read all), that goes beyond the standard questions, kudos to you!
Unfortunately I have no interest at all in reading about lastshadow. He was never good in SC2 and talked a lot of shit about the game and towards others in the community, so he does not have much (if any) credit with me. In the lol forums this might get more attention, I guess.

I'd love to read a quality interview like this with a SC2 personality though! Good luck and hope to read more from you!


Actually, a part of the interview is about people with a mindset like yours. You should probably read it.
Also, I don't really know much about lastshadow, and maybe your opinion about him is justified, but reading it might show you some different aspects of his situation.

I did just now and see why you'd say that. His situation seemed dire at times, though I can't help but feel a lot of it is by own choice, either conscious or not. I don't want to speculate, but by the way he describes his situation, and by not mentioning any family support (I still didn't read the whole thing, so maybe I missed it), it makes me think he didn't have the luxury of a normal, well supported youth, and I have the suspicion that he might be depressive, so a situation like this always will seem very dire to a person like him (I doubt an American citizen would actually starve if he asked for help at the embassy or so). Well, point is, I wish him personally the best of luck and would advise him to get a really stable environment and start to live a more regular live, but I still just don't see him as a person I have any interest in following, sorry. He hasn't accomplished anything that I noticed in SC2 (the vlogs seem to have gathered a following back in the day, but I never watched those), and that is why I am visiting these boards, not to read a heartbreaking story about an obviously very intelligent young man that unfortunately has a rough life.

Anyways, big kudos again to the interviewer, reading the interview was a lot more interesting than I initially thought, good job!
Good luck to Lastshadow.
Get off my lawn, young punks
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
January 25 2013 23:53 GMT
#82
Good interview.
@nowSimon
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 25 2013 23:54 GMT
#83
On January 26 2013 08:39 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On January 26 2013 06:22 ReachTheSky wrote:
LS needs god.

last thing he needs


nah, ur right.

What he really needs though is to stop fishing for sympathy in every single interview and get over it and move on with things.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10374 Posts
January 26 2013 00:04 GMT
#84
Holy fuck, I don't know how long I took to read all of that...

I'm so glad to finally figure out what really went on.

This is amazing, I agree with basically everything he said. Just some things I'd like to reflect on that stood out to me the most:

He is doing incredibly well, surviving on his own. I think people don't realize how hard it is. I mean he was on the line with a few hundred dollars, homeless, he was even so fucking clever to split up his luggage so he wouldn't lose it all. Among other things. Being able to play poker to make his own money...? Learning Korean by himself?

I mean holy shit he had everything against him, and that's a real tragedy that happened at Red Bull.

LS I hope you can find a goal, finish this story of yours strongly, succeed at whatever you do. You say you're uncertain of the future, and that's obviously something very scary. But what you've done so far at this age is immensely impressive and it seems that the thing you should improve most on (not that you are bad at it, but rather the rest of your life skills are in great shape) is finding a way to stay more mentally stable. What i mean is, have less periods of these "I'm scared of the future" kind of things.

You are even incredibly fast, and seem to have very good game knowledge too. So really, you've got both. And your intellect seems quite high due to just how well you've been doing on your own outside of the game itself.

It's really a tragedy that someone as LS got as much shit as he did. There's too much hate in this world.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 26 2013 00:05 GMT
#85
On January 26 2013 08:54 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 08:39 Emzeeshady wrote:
On January 26 2013 06:22 ReachTheSky wrote:
LS needs god.

last thing he needs


nah, ur right.

What he really needs though is to stop fishing for sympathy in every single interview and get over it and move on with things.


I dont see how anything he said could be misconstrued as fishing for sympathy.
glaresc
Profile Joined April 2012
31 Posts
January 26 2013 00:07 GMT
#86
Read the interview ,pretty entertaining. I really hope ls gets his life running without having to worry as much so he can focus on playing a game and show some results. I feel bad on how he got bullied out of the community despite giving so much content. gl in the future
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 26 2013 00:09 GMT
#87
Ahh this is the interview that I heard in audio form on Sterling's stream. Was a really good in-depth interview, irregardless of the fact that some people think poorly of him.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
January 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#88
I never really cared about popularity or stardom

liar.

User was warned for this post
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 00:28:46
January 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#89
I have a question, since he says he had a 77% win rate on the Korean ladder and was beating the best pros left and right, was he attacked in an elevator by a one-armed man before those times he played in Code A qualifiers and got knocked out in the first couple of rounds too?
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
January 26 2013 00:36 GMT
#90
I hope you find what you are looking for! You have been a great friend (and will continue to be) to the community in all the ways that you were able to.
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
January 26 2013 00:39 GMT
#91
People are able to devote their whole time for gaming regardless of their age, unlike LS said. There is this thing called social welfare.
HoriZoNXI
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia310 Posts
January 26 2013 00:54 GMT
#92
In_Dove's story is so saddening... but the harsh truth. I watched his stream the first time he did and he mysteriously disappeared afterwards...
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 26 2013 00:57 GMT
#93
That was a very dramatic interview 0.o
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
January 26 2013 01:13 GMT
#94
Reading this just makes me never want to change my signature the community can be so toxic.

People never know the back story. This is why people play with barcodes and why you should never judge off one tournament.
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
January 26 2013 01:37 GMT
#95
On January 26 2013 07:35 Gamegene wrote:
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On January 26 2013 07:15 Tachion wrote:
Interesting choice of person to interview. I've been following the SC2 scene very closely since beta, and I just never hear anything about this kid except for random drama. After reading the interview, it appears he did some vlogs and beat some guys on the korean ladder, but that doesn't rationalize the attention he's getting does it? I dunno, maybe it has something to do with his starcraft 1 reputation. I just don't get it. It's awfully hard to call him a pro player, he's not a personality, and judging from the interview he lacks any sense of professionalism.


We could have easily just told ourselves, "this guy has a bad reputation." :he's not liked by the community and isn't a main stream player/personality in the mainstream."

In fact, I had a fairly negative opinion of him before I even did this interview, even after I decided that we should interview him. I thought he was obnoxious, that his seed was wasted and that it was a shame that he cast a dark light at the event.

But that didn't mean anything. How badly I thought of him or how badly the majority thinks of him. Whether or not he was going to be appear to be a different person in the interview in contrast to his reputation. None of it mattered.

What mattered to me was that we have this player who's interesting. Who's misunderstood by the community. Who regularly isn't able to get his side of the story out without having it be drowned out by the background noise. And that felt wrong to me, regardless of my personal feelings towards him.

I didn't do this interview with the intention to try and make LastShadow more popular or to try and raise the public's opinion of him. Far from it. I only wanted to give him a chance to speak his mind and share his story. Whether you think differently of him, better, worse, or indifferent it doesn't matter. That's up to you to decide for yourself.


Thanks for sharing! Enjoyed reading the interview, even if it did take a whole BO5 TvT's worth of time to get through.
falconfan02
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States231 Posts
January 26 2013 01:47 GMT
#96
Really good, in depth interview. Great work Project Dove!
drdreggor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden207 Posts
January 26 2013 01:56 GMT
#97
Very interesting and very honest interview! Was a good read. This is the first time Ive heard bout LastShadow so I dont have any background info, but it seems to me like one big rant on how good he actually was but never got a chance to prove it.

I dont doubt that he probably beat top gamers on ladder and practice all the time, but thats just that; practice and ladder. If you dont display results in tournaments you cant expect people to worship you because of results you just dont have. And from what I can tell he does a pretty decent job of getting himself in situations where he flames and get the community against you.

Sure you may have a terrible RL, but that never really excuses shitty behaviour, a lot of people have RL but dont go ragecage without thinking about the consequences.
Wake up Mr. Freeman, wake up and smell the ashes.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
January 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#98
so.....so i only play mech in tvp because i believe that it is good.... has my time been for nothing =(
Sc2 always got your back
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
January 26 2013 02:16 GMT
#99
On January 26 2013 07:03 MateShade wrote:
Why do people keep interviewing last shadow? He was a cheater in sc1 (which he didnt seem to mention) and he hasn't done anything in sc2


they went over that dumb dumb. dohhh
Sc2 always got your back
DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
January 26 2013 02:17 GMT
#100
Best Interview Ever...!!
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