• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:33
CEST 03:33
KST 10:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 - RO4 & Finals Results (2025)6Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week0Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 - RO4 & Finals Results (2025) Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Rain's Behind the Scenes Storytime Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer How herO can make history in the Code S S2 finals
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Echoes of Revolution and Separation
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 29449 users

[Interview] Lastshadow with Project Dove! - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 All
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
January 29 2013 07:00 GMT
#201
Wow, I have to say I've never been more sickened by anything on this site then some of the comments and attitudes displayed in this thread.

I guess some people just get to live in a perfect little bubble where life doesn't have struggles and your mentality never gets broken by things out of your own control. It's so easy to pass judgement when your not the one who has to fight for every inch in life. It's just a disgusting combination of naivety, ignorance and arrogance.

Maybe one day you will wake up to the reality that everything you've had and loved is out of your grasp. Your friends, your family, all of your possessions. When your future hangs in the balance. When everything that could possibly go wrong hits you all at once. Maybe on that day you will realize what struggling is really like, and you'll learn to have some empathy. Or maybe your just forever be an asshole.
:)
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 07:08:34
January 29 2013 07:07 GMT
#202
On January 29 2013 16:00 Reborn8u wrote:
Wow, I have to say I've never been more sickened by anything on this site then some of the comments and attitudes displayed in this thread.

I guess some people just get to live in a perfect little bubble where life doesn't have struggles and your mentality never gets broken by things out of your own control. It's so easy to pass judgement when your not the one who has to fight for every inch in life. It's just a disgusting combination of naivety, ignorance and arrogance.

Maybe one day you will wake up to the reality that everything you've had and loved is out of your grasp. Your friends, your family, all of your possessions. When your future hangs in the balance. When everything that could possibly go wrong hits you all at once. Maybe on that day you will realize what struggling is really like, and you'll learn to have some empathy. Or maybe your just forever be an asshole.

personally i do understand some of his struggle (not all) that i dont want to delve into.

but i also see SO MANY similarities between past (18-22 yr old) me and him in general too -- which makes this eerie.

i think he needs to sort out his mental issues, but i do feel sympathy for him.

i also have no doubt that he will be successful at whatever he eventually chooses to do.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
January 29 2013 07:09 GMT
#203
On January 29 2013 09:31 a slow decay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 09:16 Kaitokid wrote:
what the hell is a triple chronoboost zealot? he mentions it when he talks about the games vs Squirtle. lol

I turned on his stream once and the first thing I heard him say was bashing Snute for being bad after he won HSC.

Yes he is one of the worst judges of skill EVER. It's laughable to hear him talk about the game, he has great ideas but the way he judges player skill is just trash.



I remember him saying that the way MC plays games is just laughable. He also said Bisu would popularize mass
phoenixes in PvZ and PvT once he switches over. I dont know why, but he kept bashing foreign players like Socke
and a few others saying how trash they are.
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 29 2013 07:48 GMT
#204
Perhaps the most interesting interview to date.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
January 29 2013 08:33 GMT
#205
On January 29 2013 16:00 Reborn8u wrote:
Wow, I have to say I've never been more sickened by anything on this site then some of the comments and attitudes displayed in this thread.

I guess some people just get to live in a perfect little bubble where life doesn't have struggles and your mentality never gets broken by things out of your own control. It's so easy to pass judgement when your not the one who has to fight for every inch in life. It's just a disgusting combination of naivety, ignorance and arrogance.

Maybe one day you will wake up to the reality that everything you've had and loved is out of your grasp. Your friends, your family, all of your possessions. When your future hangs in the balance. When everything that could possibly go wrong hits you all at once. Maybe on that day you will realize what struggling is really like, and you'll learn to have some empathy. Or maybe your just forever be an asshole.


I agree that some or many of the comments dont show anything good or anything of empathy. But I want to come in at the last part you wrote. He is in a very dangerous situation for his mental health. That has nothing to do with him as Player or Person or whatever. I reread the Interview again, just to make sure Im not judging to quickly, but I will repeat myself at this point again: As a professional counselor that is dealing nearly day to day with people that are on the edge: He is on the edge or maybe even went over.
I really think he needs help, and Im saying this with compassion. I feel for this young man in such a difficult situation.

Unfortunately this is a bad place to mention it. But I have not clue how to reach out to somebody who cares. So I hope for the best and hope that the community grows up a bit...
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
anycolourfloyd
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia524 Posts
January 29 2013 08:48 GMT
#206
well, that's a window into why he'll never be successful in sc2 (until he matures). it's actually similar to idra, though more extreme and compounded with mental issues. i mean to be fair, some of the stuff he says reminds me a little of me as a teenager, but that probably reflects basically all teenagers.

i think his biggest issue is that he seems to lack the ability to accurately analyse his performances and actions. he claims he's being honest, but i don't think he's being honest to himself. you can come up with an excuse for anything when you're upset or pissed off. later, when you've calmed down though, you've gotta examine it from the outside (grudgingly as it may be). and see through the bullshit that you first told yourself.

this is really what screwed idra over too, but he was simply a better player, more entertaining in interviews and less.. well, emo. so he has was able to get away with it to a larger extent.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 29 2013 10:21 GMT
#207
On January 29 2013 16:00 Reborn8u wrote:
Wow, I have to say I've never been more sickened by anything on this site then some of the comments and attitudes displayed in this thread.

I guess some people just get to live in a perfect little bubble where life doesn't have struggles and your mentality never gets broken by things out of your own control. It's so easy to pass judgement when your not the one who has to fight for every inch in life. It's just a disgusting combination of naivety, ignorance and arrogance.

Maybe one day you will wake up to the reality that everything you've had and loved is out of your grasp. Your friends, your family, all of your possessions. When your future hangs in the balance. When everything that could possibly go wrong hits you all at once. Maybe on that day you will realize what struggling is really like, and you'll learn to have some empathy. Or maybe your just forever be an asshole.


No reality is when everything tells you that this thought you're having of being a relevant competitive professional player is not working out then you might consider be a man for once in your life and look for something worthwhile.

Excuse me if the reality of being a professional is results. That is it, there is no two ways about it. And no it has nothing to do with being an asshole it's just straight up and straight forward mature thinking. He dug his own misery hole to sleep in and I can't feel empathy for a kid with a desire for a first world dream profession who can't build up one ounce of modesty.

Are people seriously that deluded? This is what life looks like folks! To all you youngsters out there, when it's on it's on and all that matters in any profession you choose is the total sum of your skills. If you find yourself lucky enough to not deal with emotional instability good for your the rest of us has.

Reality. Just because your mother told you you can be everything doesn't mean you can. The odds are always against you. Wake up and accept it.


JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
January 29 2013 10:40 GMT
#208
--- Nuked ---
Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
January 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#209
Fantastic interview. LS seems like a stand-up guy and while I can never say I was a "fan" of his, I'm always glad to see him do well.
YO MAN~YOGA PARTY BABY
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 29 2013 11:18 GMT
#210
On January 29 2013 16:00 Reborn8u wrote:
Wow, I have to say I've never been more sickened by anything on this site then some of the comments and attitudes displayed in this thread.

I guess some people just get to live in a perfect little bubble where life doesn't have struggles and your mentality never gets broken by things out of your own control. It's so easy to pass judgement when your not the one who has to fight for every inch in life. It's just a disgusting combination of naivety, ignorance and arrogance.

Maybe one day you will wake up to the reality that everything you've had and loved is out of your grasp. Your friends, your family, all of your possessions. When your future hangs in the balance. When everything that could possibly go wrong hits you all at once. Maybe on that day you will realize what struggling is really like, and you'll learn to have some empathy. Or maybe your just forever be an asshole.


I'm sorry but going to 'follow your dream' and then complaining to the world when it doesn't work out because you don't have a proper plan or the ability to actually make it work is not commendable in my eyes. There are plenty of people with family issues, who have struggles in life and have to work hard before even getting to graduate from high school - should they all also post a tearjerking life story and blame it all on unlucky circumstances? No, they are too busy working their asses off to make sure their next ten years are better than the last, and that their kids won't have to deal with same bullshit they had to deal with.

Naivety is when you think a guy with no backup plan or any life skills going to Korea is "struggling because of things out of his control". He made a bunch of awful decisions, he continues to make awful decisions and living off the backs of others, and yet you feel sympathy for him and insist others should, too. Talk about being ignorant.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 29 2013 11:31 GMT
#211
Have to admit though i've never been a fan of LS that was a really great read, regardless of whether some of it was exaggerated or not.

kudos
seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
January 29 2013 13:11 GMT
#212
"I wasn’t worried about Ret because here I am in Korea and I’m beating Zergs better than Ret"

then,

"Ret, he was and is one of the best Zergs in the world"

so many contradictions. eh. I would respect him more if he actually got consistent results but...
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
January 29 2013 14:55 GMT
#213
What an amazing interview, great work mate. I hope to see more of these in the future.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
EthanOz
Profile Joined September 2012
12 Posts
January 29 2013 22:05 GMT
#214
This is probably the most interesting interview I've ever read. As for the rude opinions in this thread, you all are right, but still, you should have some sympathy for him and, please, stop using the word "emo", is disgusting see how you use it as an insult but without being an insult, it's just pejorative and it shouldn't be. Fucking society.
" you think champions stop because they look tired? " - Liquid Snute
Destiny
Profile Joined May 2009
United States280 Posts
January 30 2013 00:38 GMT
#215
On January 27 2013 16:04 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Soo long...
Show nested quote +
I wasn’t disgusted with the community. I was disgusted with how some of the community acted towards me. Like they don’t realize that the way that they act towards me isn’t even relevant, just the way they act in general is killing the game. And it’s not about me, it goes beyond that. It’s how they act about everything like how “Starcraft 2 is dying” or like the whole Destiny post. Like you can’t act like that, it’s not good for the game it’s not beneficial.


I liked this part.

So does everyone else who has no idea how business or the real world works.

"guyz stop talking bad ur killing our gaem!"

Nothing to do with the lack of cashflow or viewers, nope. Just negative attitudes!
To achieve perfection is to sacrifice growth.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
January 30 2013 01:29 GMT
#216
I just wanted to say, i was one of the few people who gave him shit for betraying the sc2 community for LOL. After reading this interview i feel like an idiot. And honestly anyone still giving him shit for what he did in the past is just a hypocrite. Honestly can anyone claim not to have done something as bad as messing around on a video game during a non serious match. I remember i used to create maps that were islands and of course being terran i had the ability to lift, and oh i guess a significant part i forgot to mention is that only the islands had gas while the rest of the map only had minerals in order to insta win everytime. So last shadow i m sure u have more important things to do then read the comments on ur interview. BUT if you do i wanna apologize, for giving you shit about LOL. And honestly man, u deserve better than the flack this scbw---> tp sc2 community has given you over the years.
WhatsInAName
Profile Joined November 2012
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 19:22:52
February 13 2013 19:12 GMT
#217
Ugh, I read up to half of this interview but couldn't finish. There is just a disgusting facade of hate and woe that permeates his responses. On one had he goes to great lengths to give a sense, "I don't care what you think," attitude of self-righteousness but on the other seems neurotically obsessed with public opinion about him.

Edit - read a little more. Contradictions galore. Hate. Rage. So much pride and arrogance. Just disgusting.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
February 13 2013 23:23 GMT
#218
On February 14 2013 04:12 WhatsInAName wrote:
Ugh, I read up to half of this interview but couldn't finish. There is just a disgusting facade of hate and woe that permeates his responses. On one had he goes to great lengths to give a sense, "I don't care what you think," attitude of self-righteousness but on the other seems neurotically obsessed with public opinion about him.

Edit - read a little more. Contradictions galore. Hate. Rage. So much pride and arrogance. Just disgusting.


Hu, strange, I had the complete opposite reaction

I was even contemplating me being too unsceptic because how much I empathized with him.


Maybe it's my emotionally rocky upbringing. I dunno, but this was certainly one of the most interesting interviews to date.
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 13 2013 23:35 GMT
#219
I would advise him to leave Korea for the sake of his mental health.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
February 14 2013 04:59 GMT
#220
Destiny vs LastShadow Showmatch incoming?

As someone who watched his SC2 stream consistently, ya I worry about the guy. But, as someone who can't stand LoL, I have no idea what is going on with him atm.

Wish everyone the best, as always. Take care of yourself MrShadow.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Prev 1 9 10 11 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#36
PiGStarcraft667
CranKy Ducklings169
SteadfastSC72
EnkiAlexander 59
rockletztv 50
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft667
SteadfastSC 72
Nina 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 828
HiyA 131
Icarus 11
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1792
taco 586
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor132
Other Games
summit1g12220
tarik_tv11564
shahzam940
C9.Mang0900
JimRising 298
Mew2King170
Maynarde85
Trikslyr62
Sick32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick716
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 86
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 50
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4274
Other Games
• Scarra1184
• Shiphtur458
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 27m
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
22h 27m
The PondCast
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Harstem vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
1d 22h
RSL Revival
2 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Road to EWC
3 days
Circuito Brasileiro de…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Road to EWC
4 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #3 - GSC
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.