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[Interview] Lastshadow with Project Dove! - Page 10

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TheLastTemplar
Profile Joined February 2012
Iceland593 Posts
January 27 2013 14:08 GMT
#181
Gamegene so great to read!! ty <3<3
ladadidadi
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 27 2013 15:20 GMT
#182
Lastshadow needs to find a steady job, find some counseling and get himself in shape. He obviously has labile personality and no practice in the world and no mechanics can make you a champion. It is in the head. He said in the interview that if someone doesn't have "bloodlust" to be a champion he should do something else. He should follow his own advice.
CrugerDK
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark323 Posts
January 27 2013 15:31 GMT
#183
On January 27 2013 15:40 ppshchik wrote:
Lastshadow is the emo version of CombatEX.


except CombatEX actually took a game of PartinG. So hes a slightly worse, emo version
a slow decay
Profile Joined January 2013
150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 16:41:16
January 27 2013 16:36 GMT
#184
I love people who throw around the word "excuses"

You do know that this player has absolutely nothing to prove to any of you? Even if he is lying about some of the things that he says I don't really think that you can say that he is trying to excuse his performances. Tell-all interviews like this are exactly that: tell-all. If the interview simply went "Oh I didn't play well that day, sorry for bad games" then it would just be like every other interview from every other player.

He knows that the reason he didn't win or do well, it was because he wasn't at 100% that day. He is simply trying to detail why he wasn't at 100% that day (which is the question that was asked of him).

It's pretty obvious from this thread that many of the people posting in here have never had athletic pressure on their shoulders. When you are in a tournament or a game and all the eyes are on you, your team/family/whatever is resting all their hopes on you... It's incredibly stressful for some people, and if you aren't in the right mindset when you walk into it, it can break you and it can break your game.

Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
January 27 2013 16:44 GMT
#185
On January 28 2013 01:36 a slow decay wrote:
I love people who throw around the word "excuses"

You do know that this player has absolutely nothing to prove to any of you? Even if he is lying about some of the things that he says I don't really think that you can say that he is trying to excuse his performances. Tell-all interviews like this are exactly that: tell-all. If the interview simply went "Oh I didn't play well that day, sorry for bad games" then it would just be like every other interview from every other player.

He knows that the reason he didn't win or do well, it was because he wasn't at 100% that day. He is simply trying to detail why he wasn't at 100% that day (which is the question that was asked of him).

It's pretty obvious from this thread that many of the people posting in here have never had athletic pressure on their shoulders. When you are in a tournament or a game and all the eyes are on you, your team/family/whatever is resting all their hopes on you... It's incredibly stressful for some people, and if you aren't in the right mindset when you walk into it, it can break you and it can break your game.



I think most people that actually dislike him have had personal negative experiences with him.

He used to be super cool and talk to me on skype and stuff, but in videos always talk shit about how bad NA players are.

I beat him on NA ladder and then he wouldn't respond on skype anymore.

His failure in a tournaments means nothing to me. shit, I've bombed out of 2 mlgs first round because I'm an idiot that gets nervous. But to completely stop talking to someone because they beat you on NA ladder? On top of doing nothing but cheesing almost every game on the korean server then bragging about winning? Really?
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
January 27 2013 17:10 GMT
#186
Is it possible to find out who that physical harasser was and ban him from any future community events?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
a slow decay
Profile Joined January 2013
150 Posts
January 27 2013 17:20 GMT
#187
On January 28 2013 01:44 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 01:36 a slow decay wrote:
I love people who throw around the word "excuses"

You do know that this player has absolutely nothing to prove to any of you? Even if he is lying about some of the things that he says I don't really think that you can say that he is trying to excuse his performances. Tell-all interviews like this are exactly that: tell-all. If the interview simply went "Oh I didn't play well that day, sorry for bad games" then it would just be like every other interview from every other player.

He knows that the reason he didn't win or do well, it was because he wasn't at 100% that day. He is simply trying to detail why he wasn't at 100% that day (which is the question that was asked of him).

It's pretty obvious from this thread that many of the people posting in here have never had athletic pressure on their shoulders. When you are in a tournament or a game and all the eyes are on you, your team/family/whatever is resting all their hopes on you... It's incredibly stressful for some people, and if you aren't in the right mindset when you walk into it, it can break you and it can break your game.



I think most people that actually dislike him have had personal negative experiences with him.

He used to be super cool and talk to me on skype and stuff, but in videos always talk shit about how bad NA players are.

I beat him on NA ladder and then he wouldn't respond on skype anymore.

His failure in a tournaments means nothing to me. shit, I've bombed out of 2 mlgs first round because I'm an idiot that gets nervous. But to completely stop talking to someone because they beat you on NA ladder? On top of doing nothing but cheesing almost every game on the korean server then bragging about winning? Really?

He definitely is one of the more rage-y guys in the Starcraft scene and that isn't something that demands a lot of respect from me. But when someone conducts a tell-all interview, you can't get mad at the interviewee for being completely honest. This is one of the greatest Starcraft interviews because Lastshadow has no organization whispering the "correct" answers in his ear and nothing holding him back from just laying it down on the table.

Very, very, very few other players can bring such blunt honesty to any discussion, and that in it's own right should be admired, even if the things he's saying or doing aren't agreeable.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
January 27 2013 17:28 GMT
#188
On January 28 2013 02:10 Zandar wrote:
Is it possible to find out who that physical harasser was and ban him from any future community events?

I have a friend who talks just like LS in this interview. If he said that happened to him it either didn't happen at all, or he exaggerated a lot. So no, we can't find out.
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
January 27 2013 18:29 GMT
#189
Thanks thanks thanks a million for this interview...it has so many things that i've felt so many people needed to see/read/get shoved in their faces (ok so that last one's a little harsh, but it's true). This community is just...Ridiculous sometimes. Even some of the people in this thread are just being completely ignorant, ridiculously stupid, Blind and biased.

Ive felt this before (mostly when watching his Vlogs) but this guy is a freaking genius. Smarter than I can put in words, he's just flat out genius. People have trouble realizing this (or maybe it's giving recognition to it) b/c they have their panties in a bunch about something he did as a kid (and seriously...who the fuck hasnt made a mistake as a kid? it's what you're supposed to fucking do, I'd be more upset if he didn't learn from his mistake, which he obviously has), or his abrasive attitude (which i actually love about him), or his blunt honesty (which ppl try to blind themselves to by calling "liar liar"[and they're obviously wrong]). I know he'll never actually read this, but I just wanted to tell him LS, there's at least 1 fanboy out here, rooting for you, regardless of what you choose to do with your life. I'm so proud of the things you've done (Things I myself could never do).

Also, his view on balance is exactly what i've been trying to tell basically everybody ever. If you're not the top top top tier pro gamer, then you have no right to balance whine. It's your own fault for not being good enough, just fucking get better, worry about your own gameplay, then you'll notice that things that seemed unfair before, are actually super fucking easy (because you're actually playing good enough now..)

BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
vividred
Profile Joined January 2013
88 Posts
January 27 2013 18:50 GMT
#190
Wow he's so edgy rofl
MUDA MUDA MUDA
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
January 28 2013 21:35 GMT
#191
On January 27 2013 02:43 RaelSan wrote:
Hello I am very introvert but I am going to tell about my whole life in a big wall of text Oo

No offense but this contradiction hit me hard but I still read most of it and there is some intrusting stuff, but I hope he still plays SC2 tho

you have no idea what being an introvert means. I am one, and the best conversations I've had are like this interview, going deep into the issues, cutting through the bullshit and small talk. i could talk about my personal life with a stranger any time, but put me in a larger group of ppl and I'm a spectator, i let others do the talk.
Swift118
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom335 Posts
January 28 2013 21:52 GMT
#192
Man this guy has a great mind for gaming, shame he does not have the mental stability to compete as a pro.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28092 Posts
January 28 2013 22:09 GMT
#193
Wow, that is one long interview my friend. But it was really enjoyable, thank you for doing it.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 23:50:23
January 28 2013 23:49 GMT
#194
Very interesting interview and person. He has very unique insights into the scene, and does understand the game pretty well (at least from what I can tell). Due to his position, he also has no sponsorship obligations, so he can be free to be brutally blunt and not worry about what he says.

That being said, he came off as extremely negative and cynical, as well as continuously making excuses for his life. Yes he has had a hard life, and yes there have been many things that have gone wrong for him, but this seems to be a guy who does not seem to be able to move on and rebuild. It's a shame.

But what do I know, and these are only my impressions. Either way, he's a very interesting person and this was a very interesting interview.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 00:21:42
January 29 2013 00:16 GMT
#195
what the hell is a triple chronoboost zealot? he mentions it when he talks about the games vs Squirtle. lol

I turned on his stream once and the first thing I heard him say was bashing Snute for being bad after he won HSC.
a slow decay
Profile Joined January 2013
150 Posts
January 29 2013 00:31 GMT
#196
On January 29 2013 09:16 Kaitokid wrote:
what the hell is a triple chronoboost zealot? he mentions it when he talks about the games vs Squirtle. lol

I turned on his stream once and the first thing I heard him say was bashing Snute for being bad after he won HSC.

Yes he is one of the worst judges of skill EVER. It's laughable to hear him talk about the game, he has great ideas but the way he judges player skill is just trash.
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
January 29 2013 03:20 GMT
#197
That was one of the longest interviews I have ever read, but it was a good one. Really deep, he answered those questions very well. While I understand the hate he gets for his past and his demeanor sometimes, I think he cleared up some bits with this and the community should try to do its best to understand him and perhaps show some more support.
AcidKing
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany16 Posts
January 29 2013 05:04 GMT
#198
that kid really seeks attention ... some1 should get him help
Acid!Acid!Acid!Acid!Acid!
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
January 29 2013 06:11 GMT
#199
While I find him to be egotistical, I like how he shares his knowledge of the game and he clearly had lots of passion and could have been a top player had people been more accepting.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 29 2013 06:29 GMT
#200
On January 29 2013 15:11 Xyik wrote:
While I find him to be egotistical, I like how he shares his knowledge of the game and he clearly had lots of passion and could have been a top player had people been more accepting.


People not accepting him/liking him has nothing to do with his skill.
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