EG.IdrA + RotterdaM at CES 2013 next week!

On January 05 2013 06:39 Zealos wrote:
20 mins? That can't be all that hard?

On January 05 2013 06:41 StarStruck wrote:
Why survive when you can beat him in less than twenty? o_O

On January 05 2013 06:46 zephiK wrote:
This seems to be overlooked but any chance this will be streamed as it is live commentary?

Would be cool if the Kingston HyperX anniversary played some of the most interesting games of this IdrA + rotterdam during the breaks in between games on EG's main tournament, HyperX or something in between those lines.

On January 05 2013 06:46 Proseat wrote:
So yet another EG-TL player who will not be there for some or all of the matches this week in Proleague.

On January 05 2013 06:46 Zenbrez wrote:
*9 games in*

Rotty: So, we've decided to reduce the time to 14 minutes

On January 05 2013 06:44 Nazeron wrote:
would be pretty sweet to last 20 mins against idra, i dont think many people if any will tho

On January 05 2013 07:46 JustPassingBy wrote:
20 normal minutes or 20 blizzard minutes?

On January 05 2013 06:46 chadissilent wrote:
Do I have to make it last 20 minutes or can I beat him in less?

On January 05 2013 08:37 jcroisdale wrote:
Im sorry but I've finished at top masters before, and I know i could never take a game off Idra. The difference between TOP GM level and High masters in the difference between bronze and masters. I've played a few top pros and couldn't even hold for 15 minutes in most games.

When a higher level player plays against a lower level player they will play different. He will be doing constant pressure and just out multi task you until the 15 minute mark when he runs you over with broodlords and infestors.

On January 05 2013 08:26 tshi wrote:
haha, cool. I hope a good pro-gramer shows up to screw with the system, lol. One can dream, but it would be hilarious to see MC just show up out of no where with a giant smile on his face :D

On January 05 2013 08:48 templar rage wrote:
Yeah, random people who think lasting 20 minutes would be easy have clearly never played a pro player before.

On January 05 2013 08:48 templar rage wrote:
Yeah, random people who think lasting 20 minutes would be easy have clearly never played a pro player before.

On January 05 2013 08:34 RotterdaM wrote:
:D haha funny comments so far ^_^ Pretty excited, make sure to drop by if you're in Town, should be a good time

On January 05 2013 09:01 Lylat wrote:
What if you beat him under 20min ?

You gotta admit it wouldnt be too tough for a mid master player and up to come up with a build to last 20 minutes. In ZvZ, it's all about surviving ling/bane and hiding behind spines/roaches off 3 base before adding infestors. Pretty easy on a map like Antiga for example. Unless Idra rushes to BLs or Ultras it's pretty tough to break an infestor/roach/spine defensive position in ZvZ. Just my opinion, might be totally wrong though.

On January 05 2013 09:33 Zenbrez wrote:
Are they having a dota version of this?

"Who can last 65 minutes against the EG team!?"

Would be a bit less climactic

On January 05 2013 09:23 SLAYER29 wrote:
float first CC into corner then wait?

On January 05 2013 09:05 Zenbrez wrote:

Then you win. Don't know what you're going for here.

I don't think people realize how long 20 minutes actually is.

On January 05 2013 10:45 jcroisdale wrote:
Everyone commentating about cheese, LOL. Do you guys think Idra has ever been cheesed by lower levels players before?

On January 05 2013 11:34 wklbishop wrote:


Who's everyone?

I read two comments about how people are going to cheese idra (nothing about him failing to defend it) and one comment about Idra 6-pooling.



That said. I wonder if I can survive on 2 base protoss for 20 minutes. Like hard core cannons and voidrays. Then build 2 warp prisms and with a few probes to build a few extractors/pylons here and there after my base gets totaled.

On January 05 2013 11:21 Aveng3r wrote:
is it true that the owner of eg is the owner of the lectr account?

On January 05 2013 12:23 chris2423 wrote:
any protoss midmasters+ can do this easily. first, idra sucks vs protoss. second, 2 base immortal sentry allin that doesnt attack = gg unless idra allins before that (which is shut down by 2 cannons and a sentry) and he will need broodlord infestor to beat your 2 base sentry immortal, and broodlord infestor DPS's so slow that beating the 20 minute clock is just about impossible.

However players with the skill to hold out for 20 will likely just play the game legit and end up losing in under 20 because of it, and the ones who can win straight up vs idra would never play in this in the first place.

On January 05 2013 12:25 LingBlingBling wrote:



You don't know anything, Everyone in masters sucks @ doing the immortal sentry all in, i mean they suck so bad, I'm low gm on na, and every toss i encounter can't do it correctly, they always move out later, parting is really the only one who can pull it off @ 9 mins smooth.


Idra has shown very good results recently for someone who does not play WOL anymore and only does HOTS.

People just like to hate on him with out knowing anything about his play.

On January 05 2013 12:31 Sqorpion wrote:
Not sure if people are trolling or if they really think they stand a chance at surviving 20 minutes against IdrA..
Even saw a comment saying any plat+ can do it.. That must be a troll though, you gotta be REALLY good to survive 20 minutes. Did you look at the ingame clock? It might be faster than real time, but 20 minutes is a looooooong time vs IdrA..

On January 05 2013 12:40 mangomango wrote:
Idra will be kicking butt and taking names! EG Fighting!

On January 05 2013 12:40 chris2423 wrote:


if your zerg it might as well be an eternity, as terran you better be GM+ because 10-20 minute games are idra's thing. ling bling muta will rip a lower skilled player apart so fast its not even funny, only protoss really have a decent shot at playing a stalling game imo, and as far as a plat player making it, the only way that would happen is if idra fell asleep on the keyboard

On January 05 2013 09:23 SLAYER29 wrote:
float first CC into corner then wait?

On January 05 2013 08:22 Zennith wrote:
All you kids thinking you could last 20 minutes are kidding yourselves. Unless you're top masters/GM, you almost certainly won't make it.

On January 05 2013 13:07 fuzzylogic44 wrote:


The problem is Zerg can't just roll over someone who is turtling no matter how far ahead they get, they need to wait for a giant T3 death army. If you just ringed your main with static defense you would last 20 against anyone who plays Z

On January 05 2013 13:11 EtherealDeath wrote:

I dunno about that, my average zvp was ~14:30 ingame time at low gm level lol (and Z's even my offrace)

Granted usually on ladder people don't try to prolong shit with their last few units and wait to be fully eliminated through everything being killed.

On January 05 2013 13:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:


I seriously think I at gold level could last 20 minutes against Idra if I knew that's all I had to do beforehand. The strategy I would use would have a 0% win rate even in the hands of professionals, but it would last 20 minutes.

On January 05 2013 12:06 EtherealDeath wrote:


Why do that when you can go terran and lift all your buildings as a last resort lol.

On January 05 2013 13:25 EtherealDeath wrote:

Uh, and what would that strategy be?

On January 05 2013 13:27 Zenbrez wrote:

Doesn't matter tbh. At gold, you don't spend your money well enough to simply "have enough stuff" for strategy to matter. Mid master players can "have enough stuff" but not use it well enough to beat a pro.

On January 05 2013 13:30 EtherealDeath wrote:

Well he seems to be pretty sure of himself lasting 20 minutes despite being gold, so I'm curious. Unless this is just Dunning-Kruger at play.

On January 05 2013 13:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
you guys realize that they want to give out prizes right? of course its not going to be an impossible task. Then they would look like dicks.

On January 05 2013 13:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:


I seriously think I at gold level could last 20 minutes against Idra if I knew that's all I had to do beforehand. The strategy I would use would have a 0% win rate even in the hands of professionals, but it would last 20 minutes.

On January 05 2013 13:38 Insomni7 wrote:
Every time my opponent offensively GGs, I play this game. Once I had 30 drones in overlords on Taldarim with a bank. I lasted 15 mins after the gg. xD

But seriously, anyone who is high masters could probably pull this off. Wish I was there...

On January 05 2013 13:32 Zenbrez wrote:
Idra is going to be aggressive, or at least doing strong timing attacks. It's HIS clock to kill you by 20 minutes, and you can bet he's not going to wait till the 19th minute mark to start attacking

On January 05 2013 08:22 Zennith wrote:
All you kids thinking you could last 20 minutes are kidding yourselves. Unless you're top masters/GM, you almost certainly won't make it.

On January 05 2013 14:09 BrokenMirage wrote:
When they say 20 minute game, do they mean 20 real minutes or 20 Blizzard minutes. That would probably make a significant difference.

On January 05 2013 14:04 Najda wrote:


You never know. I remember at quakecon the only person who got a kill on fatal1ty to win some gear was some random girl who had no idea how to play the game beyond click = shoot.

I'd never have a chance though, because I'd have to ZvZ him which never lasts 20 minutes anyway.

On January 05 2013 14:04 Najda wrote:


You never know. I remember at quakecon the only person who got a kill on fatal1ty to win some gear was some random girl who had no idea how to play the game beyond click = shoot.

I'd never have a chance though, because I'd have to ZvZ him which never lasts 20 minutes anyway.

On January 05 2013 14:04 Najda wrote:


You never know. I remember at quakecon the only person who got a kill on fatal1ty to win some gear was some random girl who had no idea how to play the game beyond click = shoot.

I'd never have a chance though, because I'd have to ZvZ him which never lasts 20 minutes anyway.

On January 05 2013 16:13 ConGee wrote:


Using a FPS game isn't really a good comparison. I could probably get a kill on a pro FPS player given 100 chances. Given 100 chances to beat IdrA, I would win 0% of the time.

On January 05 2013 16:38 pindleskin wrote:
"Last in the cage for 1 minute with Cain Velasquez"

I don't think anyone will be lasting 20 minutes

On January 05 2013 16:32 Diks wrote:

Don't laugh at Quake3 competitive, you'll lose 500 times in a row against the best players.

On January 05 2013 06:49 KarlKaliente wrote:


Like they would ever throw idra in PL... they already have taeja hero stephano JD puma JYP revival zenio...

Far too much talent between the teams to be reaching so far

On January 05 2013 17:00 phantomfive wrote:
To all those people who think they can survive playing at a gold league level, you really need to rethink this. What exactly are you going to do? At any point in the game, your army is guaranteed to be smaller than his unless you are high masters. Here is how your plan will fail with each race:


Zerg - Idra is much better at scouting than you are. You will not be able to hide anything from him. So what are you going to do? Wall in with spine crawlers? He'll see that and hit you with mutalisks. Whatever army composition you choose, he'll see it and choose the best counter. And even if you somehow get lucky and manage to trick him, his micro is so much better than yours that he'll still win.


Protoss - How good is your FFE? Will you be even be able to stop his first few zerglings from killing you? If you are even ten seconds late on your cannon, you might lose right away. If you try an immortal/sentry turtle, he can destroy you with mutalisks. As soon as you move out of your base, there will be zerglings inside tearing it down. If you try to hold with only two bases, remember he'll have four by the 11 minute mark.


Terran - as soon as he sees you're turtling, he'll see what you're doing and drone up. He'll see he can build the infestation pit at 8 minutes, which means hive will be done around 10 minutes, and greater spire around 11:45. You're going to have 3000 minerals worth of brood lords in your base by 13 minutes. How will you handle that? That's assuming he doesn't completely destroy you with a mutalisk harassment at the 8 minute mark. He will destroy every slightly misplaced building, he will pick off your SCVs, and as soon as your thors get out of position he will destroy them too.


If anyone were around here to bet with my, I'd bet $20 that no one will last who is less than grandmaster. Also, if you try some stupid cheese, he will scout it and beat it. Unless your name is Gaulzi, you're not going to beat Idra with a cannon rush, he expects it.

On January 09 2013 09:02 Ethi wrote:
I don't think IdrA will survive 20 mins against players with no self respect-race.

On January 09 2013 09:21 jinorazi wrote:
what if i contain idra to one or two base, dont let him expand, starve him, dont attack...and he gg in 15 minutes.

do i still win prize?

On January 09 2013 09:50 Lokerek wrote:


Fair Question.
Might as well 6 pool him and kill all drones and leave hatchery alive for 20 minutes

On January 05 2013 13:07 fuzzylogic44 wrote:


The problem is Zerg can't just roll over someone who is turtling no matter how far ahead they get, they need to wait for a giant T3 death army. If you just ringed your main with static defense you would last 20 against anyone who plays Z

On January 11 2013 03:46 Mystgun wrote:
I got to play against IdrA on Tuesday. Such an honor to be able to play him!

First and foremost, you are playing in real minutes, not game minutes. If you beat him you will also win, but with an unfamiliar setup, pressure from playing in front of an audience, and his starpower, that's probably not going to happen. He will let you decide his race and he definitely doesn't play balls-to-the-wall SC2. He is nice enough to play pretty passively for the first 10 minutes before taking things up a notch at the halfway mark. I saw a timesheet that an attendee was holding and most people die off about 11-13 minutes. He does gradually increase his level of aggression but I think he also wants to give the challenger a decent chance of survival. I was personally too starstruck to even play properly but I did have a pretty good time. Thanks IdrA!

Also great to meet RotterdaM, who was somehow able to cast the game and have multiple side conversations at the same time...

On January 05 2013 06:38 erw wrote:
mass cannons!!

On January 31 2013 10:32 ElemenoMe wrote:
Hey! Sorry to post here, new accounts cannot create threads. Hope it doesn't get in anybody's way.

I'm someone who's being continously banned based off of a single ban months ago for being curious about maphacks in sc2 and using one in a game and admitting to it. Then, the notoriously ban crazy Plexa (who I've seen other mods alter his bans in the past because of this) perma banned me because it may have cost someone 10 ladder points temporarily on battle.net. This was not a policy I was aware of, it goes without saying.

I''m not going to stop creating content and accounts for MY HOME online because of this. This is my community online as much as anything is and sc2 is the only game I play. I never meant anyone harm obviously and these accounts are merely an act of necessity in my eyes to post the same as I always have (not that I'm not always aiming to better my posts.)

I believe it's been too long and I should just be unbanned. This is silly.

User was banned for this post.

lol i'd just play standard and beat him

On January 31 2013 14:58 Innovation wrote:


It's such an honor to see such an accomplished and well known player posting in the forums...oh wait, who are you?

To you and anyone else saying this. IF you have on the rare occasion won against Idra on ladder it's highly unlikely you were playing "standard" or that he wasn't working on a particular build which you happened to get lucky against.

If you aren't a well known top tier player and you're saying Idra "ez pz" than you're obviously just trolling cause it takes less than half a brain to know that you're lying or just insane. Don't pretend like you're better than Idra. Nobody believes you.

On January 31 2013 22:22 Littlemuff wrote:
GO Toss. Cannon up on 1 or 2 base. and mass air. As soon as the BL come in, air the crap out of him. Play it like that single player mission where you do the last stand as Protoss.