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BoggieMan
520 Posts
If you look at the european scene, there is quite a decent amount. I don't know too much about the American scene, but if you dig down a bit i guess you will find a decent amount aswell. If you only look at the biggest leagues you will only see korean terrans, korean protosses, korean zergs and a few foreign protosses and zergs. I guess the foreign terrans are having a hard time in the current metagame. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
Looking at it from a video game perspective, most gamers would rather play Zerg and Protoss. Why? Because it's a fucking video game. You don't want to be in a video game and be playing as boring old humans. You want to be ancient aliens with super sick technology, or sick, infested aliens with swarming ferocity. If you look at them mechanics wise, you'd be quite silly to think the best Zerg/Protoss foreigners couldn't play Terran at a high level (whether they'd be as successful as they are, I cannot say). However, IdrA played Terran in BW, and Stephano/Scarlett/Naniwa are really fast. So speed isn't really the issue. Even Flash only has around 200+ APM, it's just that he doesn't mess up his macro. Terran macro is unforgiving as hell, and foreigners have never really got the hang of it, is what I think it comes down to. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On December 19 2012 20:05 Flonomenalz wrote: I also think it's just unfortunate that the best foreigners mostly play Zerg. Looking at it from a video game perspective, most gamers would rather play Zerg and Protoss. Why? Because it's a fucking video game. You don't want to be in a video game and be playing as boring old humans. You want to be ancient aliens with super sick technology, or sick, infested aliens with swarming ferocity. If you look at them mechanics wise, you'd be quite silly to think the best Zerg/Protoss foreigners couldn't play Terran at a high level (whether they'd be as successful as they are, I cannot say). However, IdrA played Terran in BW, and Stephano/Scarlett/Naniwa are really fast. So speed isn't really the issue. Even Flash only has around 200+ APM, it's just that he doesn't mess up his macro. Terran macro is unforgiving as hell, and foreigners have never really got the hang of it, is what I think it comes down to. Flash had 400ish apm in wcg 2010 with 240eapm to boot. The myth of flash being "slow" is kind of wierd. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Zert, protoss, Terran and Korean Terran.  | ||
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[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
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Anomarad
Canada565 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
Then, the other races slowly figured out how to play and the patches came. Korean Terrans still dominated GSL, but the pool of Foreign Terrans that can win tournaments faded away. Now that the Korean Terrans struggle, too, there is no surprise that there are hardly any Foreign Terrans left. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On December 19 2012 19:21 cameler1989 wrote: No one is even mentioning leagues, and you still pull out the league card. You can have your masters league, I'm off to Dota... have fun in HoTS you obsessive compulsive losers. I'm in gold league, leagues have nothing to do with this. What I was stating was: 1. Balance doesn't affect people below masters 2. People who have the skills to play Terran can compete with the other races on even footing. | ||
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redDuke
Australia207 Posts
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 19 2012 18:02 BlackGosu wrote: its a bad time for terran in general. look at the recent big tournament results, and now the blizzard cup It's been like this for the entirety of SC2's lifespan. People can list names of foreign Terrans they consider good all they want, but what have they actually won? At the end of the day, Terran is more difficult because it's more unforgiving in the ways that matter most in SC2. The snowball effect is much more pronounced than it was in BW, with comebacks being nearly impossible to pull off in most instances. When you're playing the race the produces the slowest and generally fields the squishiest armies with the highest vulnerability to AOE attacks and spells, it causes any mistake you make in an engagement to hurt you much more than if you weren't playing Terran. There's no 20 chargelot warp-in or instant remax on whatever unit you want, and there's nothing in Terran's arsenal that has the same instantaneous, devastating impact on a Zerg or Protoss army that fungal or storm have on Terran. | ||
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Prevolved
United States573 Posts
On December 19 2012 20:44 Targe wrote: I'm in gold league, leagues have nothing to do with this. What I was stating was: 1. Balance doesn't affect people below masters 2. People who have the skills to play Terran can compete with the other races on even footing. I'm of the strong opinion that you cannot even really begin to fathom the way the game works at a high, competitive level, unless you are at least masters. Hell, I'll drop to diamond. I worked my way up from bronze, and as I got into diamond, I began to realize that I really didn't know shit about the game prior to diamond. In masters, this realization was increased even more, about how little I really knew. The problem is, you won't ever realize this, unless you get there yourself. Otherwise, you'll just keep thinking you know everything. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On December 19 2012 20:59 Prevolved wrote: I'm of the strong opinion that you cannot even really begin to fathom the way the game works at a high, competitive level, unless you are at least masters. Hell, I'll drop to diamond. I worked my way up from bronze, and as I got into diamond, I began to realize that I really didn't know shit about the game prior to diamond. In masters, this realization was increased even more, about how little I really knew. The problem is, you won't ever realize this, unless you get there yourself. Otherwise, you'll just keep thinking you know everything. quoted for fucking truth darkforce said this quite often: the better you get, the more you realize you are a terrible noob. | ||
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Digitalis
United States1043 Posts
On December 19 2012 21:22 Zeon0 wrote: quoted for fucking truth darkforce said this quite often: the better you get, the more you realize you are a terrible noob. yup yup, im only a lowly plat and once i joined my schools starcraft team they're all masters), it made me realize how much i dont know and suck at the game | ||
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CYFAWS
Sweden275 Posts
On December 19 2012 19:05 blade55555 wrote: Ah you are wrong. PF's are pretty much free base defense. Zerg doesn't get free base defense. Also the common misconception from terrans is they think zergs/tosses just A move. If they just a moved then their army would be obliterated (unless they are just so far ahead they can A move, but terran can do that to ^^). Aka if I A move my ling/bane army guess what? All my banes will hit whatever is closest so like tanks which is bad bad, or they might attack in the most retarded way possible allowing tank shots to do more damage or certain marines to do more damage then they should. i was kinda making fun of whiny T there but the base defense. PF's are free exactly how now? queens on the other hand are great def units while also being necessary for z macro and map control. you'd get them even if they had no attack (kind of). | ||
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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