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Hello everyone,
i want to understand why there are so few non-korean terran players that make a noticable impact in greater tournaments.
Its obvious that korean terrans can win tournaments and have no problem to compete with their fellow zerg and protoss korean-players. And there are a lot of korean terrans we all know and see all the time in big tournaments.
But i have the feeling that foreign terrans have dissapeared somewhat. In major tournaments i only remember : DeMuslim, Lucifron, Thorzain and Major. On the other hand there are planty of foreign protoss and zergs that i remember playing a significant role in major tournaments.
What are the reasons for this ?
Do the koreans like the terrans more as the foreigners do ? And therefore it is only natural that there are more good korean terrans ?
Is it just coincidence ? Maybe 2012 was just a bad year for foreign terrans ?
Or is it something in the game ? Is the terran race better suited for the korean style of practice ?
Or maybe i am wrong and i missed some notable foreign terrans in the tournaments ? Then please correct me.
PS : sorry for my bad english
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its a bad time for terran in general. look at the recent big tournament results, and now the blizzard cup
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Terran takes a lot of APM which a lot of foreigners don't have. That is kind of the reason korean terrans are so good is they have a lot of apm and thus can use terran in ways foreigners can't due to being to slow.
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terran today = protoss 6 months ago at korea
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Even during the age of Terran a long time ago I dont think foreign terrans were that dominant either. They may win here and there but not dominating fashion like Zerg/toss.
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Because Terran is the hardest race to play well and generally requires the most micro/multitask.
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Wow you didn't even list Kas wtf.
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I think a contributing reason is that the terran progamers have been more popular in korea (both historically in sc bw and sc2).
SlayerSBoxer, NaDa, Flash etc.
Remember MarineKing for example? He even took boxers name for that reason! ^^
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On December 19 2012 18:15 goswser wrote:
Wow you didn't even list Kas wtf.
as shocking as the state terran is in right now, I think this is much more frightening.
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i feel think this has been discused so many times....
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I agree that it's largely due to the fact that really famous Terran players have always been Korean, making it harder to really break into the scene as a foreigner Terran. I would disagree that there is some huge skill gap that makes it impossible, I mean...foreigners do have the potential to play against each other and do well as Terran as foreigners, without even getting Koreans into the picture.
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this has been discussed like a million times, but this topic makes no sense in this particular time period anyway because terran is doing absolutely awfully for several months now, even for koreans
all i remember from the last 3-4 tournaments is:
PvZ
ZvZ
ZvZ
ZvZ
PvZ
ZvZ
PvZ
ZvZ
ZvZ
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PvZ
ZvZ
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stim_to_the_Win_Tournament
Lucifron beat the hell out of Stephano in that series, also check race distribution x)
and yeah what people are saying, what T requires skillwise, is what really differ foreigners from Koreans (apm).
But, dont forget the Empire terrans; Beasty, Bratok, Kas and Happy are all great Terrans!
Edit: Yes, I do realise the race distribution in 'Stim to the Win' is on purpose 
Edit2: Come to think of it; Zerg and protoss pros often have the same incredibly high apm as T pros, so its not like the APM of Terran players excels the APM of other races.
For example, the highest APM Ive ever seen on zerg players are DRG and Leenock, which might be the reason they are among the few Zerg players who are able to compete with muta ling bling.
And that might be the reason as to why foreign zergs are less likely to go for muta ling bling in zvt?
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"Why are there so few foreign terran players ?"
Fungal.
Not only foreign terrans tho, koreans are struggling as well.
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Terran is the hardest and least forgiving race.
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On December 19 2012 18:01 wingless666 wrote:
Hello everyone,
i want to understand why there are so few non-korean terran players that make a noticable impact in greater tournaments.
Its obvious that korean terrans can win tournaments and have no problem to compete with their fellow zerg and protoss korean-players. And there are a lot of korean terrans we all know and see all the time in big tournaments.
But i have the feeling that foreign terrans have dissapeared somewhat. In major tournaments i only remember : DeMuslim, Lucifron, Thorzain and Major. On the other hand there are planty of foreign protoss and zergs that i remember playing a significant role in major tournaments.
What are the reasons for this ?
Do the koreans like the terrans more as the foreigners do ? And therefore it is only natural that there are more good korean terrans ?
Is it just coincidence ? Maybe 2012 was just a bad year for foreign terrans ?
Or is it something in the game ? Is the terran race better suited for the korean style of practice ?
Or maybe i am wrong and i missed some notable foreign terrans in the tournaments ? Then please correct me.
PS : sorry for my bad english
The same reason there were so few really good foreign bw terran players? O; The game just isn't friendly towards Terran players atm.
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On December 19 2012 18:28 rafaliusz wrote:
"Why are there so few foreign terran players ?"
Fungal.
Not only foreign terrans tho, koreans are struggling as well.
Yeah, there aren't 10 Terrans in the next season of Code S or anything.
As for foreign Terrans, Terran requires the most APM of the three races to play at the highest level. Foreign players usually don't have as much high APM.
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Oh boy...this thread has been so pro-Terran so far...I can't wait for the Z and P fanboys to charge in.
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Terran is the hardest race to use, and you need crazy APM and multitasking skills to use Terran to its full potential. This is why only Koreans can do it, whereas for Z and P, you know there are well-known foreign Z and P such as Naniwa, Huk, Stephano, Scarlett. On the other hand, for Terrans to excel, it needs APM and multitasking, something which Korean Terrans are generally better at compared to foreign terrans. Having said this, there are some really decent foreign terrans like Thorzain
Just this fact alone shows how difficult it is to play as T.
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