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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
December 19 2012 09:34 GMT
#21
LucifroN
MajOr
Thorzain
Illusion
Kas
Happy
Beastyqt
BratOK
DeMusliM

Naama, GoOdy and ClouD to a lesser extent.

qxc and SjoW used to be pretty good as well.


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anguyenm
Profile Joined January 2012
United States47 Posts
December 19 2012 09:35 GMT
#22
All the famous foreigners are protoss or zerg. It's too hard to play terran right now. With other races having so much AOE, it's much more difficult to come back from a mistake. Korean terrans > Foreigner terrans = they're better at coming back
but still....
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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
December 19 2012 09:36 GMT
#23
On December 19 2012 18:18 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:15 goswser wrote:
Wow you didn't even list Kas wtf.

as shocking as the state terran is in right now, I think this is much more frightening.


Then again Kas has hardly won any tournaments worth more money than $50.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
December 19 2012 09:38 GMT
#24
On December 19 2012 18:36 namste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:18 FataLe wrote:
On December 19 2012 18:15 goswser wrote:
Wow you didn't even list Kas wtf.

as shocking as the state terran is in right now, I think this is much more frightening.


Then again Kas has hardly won any tournaments worth more money than $50.

Ladder bonjwa since sc2 inception > Nestea award + 4x gsl champs.

Everyone knows this.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 19 2012 09:38 GMT
#25
Kas 1000000000000 games
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 19 2012 09:39 GMT
#26
Terran is generally regarded as the most APM intensive of the races but the general idea is that if you have this APM it should pay off.
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ne0lith
Profile Joined August 2011
537 Posts
December 19 2012 09:40 GMT
#27
On December 19 2012 18:31 Flonomenalz wrote:
Yeah, there aren't 10 Terrans in the next season of Code S or anything.


Yeah bro, I think Terran should be nerfed.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
December 19 2012 09:41 GMT
#28
On December 19 2012 18:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stim_to_the_Win_Tournament

Lucifron beat the hell out of Stephano in that series, also check race distribution x)


and yeah what people are saying, what T requires skillwise, is what really differ foreigners from Koreans (apm).

But, dont forget the Empire terrans; Beasty, Bratok, Kas and Happy are all great Terrans!






You do realize that tournaments takes 75% terran on purpose?
wingless666
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany27 Posts
December 19 2012 09:44 GMT
#29
On December 19 2012 18:04 blade55555 wrote:
Terran takes a lot of APM which a lot of foreigners don't have. That is kind of the reason korean terrans are so good is they have a lot of apm and thus can use terran in ways foreigners can't due to being to slow.


On December 19 2012 18:13 kckkryptonite wrote:
Because Terran is the hardest race to play well and generally requires the most micro/multitask.


And thats the point i dont understand. (Yes i am a noob). Why is terran so "hard" ? I mean zerg have to inject, protoss need to chrono boost and must warp in units. And all three races have their casters. And for all three races positioning is a key element in every fight. So please can you explain what i am not seeing ?

And why cant the foreignes train to have the required apm ?

PS : i am very sorry that i forgot about Kas, and Happy did well in the euro finals i think but i didnt saw much from strelok or bratok
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 09:46:15
December 19 2012 09:44 GMT
#30
It was the same way in BW. Even then, a lot of people would talk about "omg it takes so much more apm and the micro is so much harder." So much hyperbole. If it weren't that true in BW, I would give it even less credence in SC 2. I can't speak so much for SC 2 since I don't play Terran, but for BW, I think the biggest thing was how dependent Terran was on the terrain. It created a larger variability in skill level. Ie., on a map you practice a lot, you could be A-, but on a map you haven't practiced as much, or one that doesn't have as favorable of a terrain for Terran, you could play like you were C rank or something. Playing with Toss didn't really require nearly as much thought/practice.

Besides the terrain factor, Terran is simply a less forgiving race (although much kinder in SC 2. Calling down supplies and easy, easy macro...). With Terran, your mistakes simply seem to be magnified or at least have a higher chance of quickly snowballing into defeat. And as long as z vs t is imbalanced in SC 2, more so than other mu's, that's only going to further skew things. Also, when a game is new and imbalanced, you're free to simply change races as being worried about having to "start over" is pretty silly. SC 2 needs to be bigger in Russia or something, as they seemed to have a larger amount of Terran talent, relative to other countries.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 09:51:36
December 19 2012 09:50 GMT
#31
On December 19 2012 18:33 dynwar7 wrote:
Terran is the hardest race to use, and you need crazy APM and multitasking skills to use Terran to its full potential. This is why only Koreans can do it, whereas for Z and P, you know there are well-known foreign Z and P such as Naniwa, Huk, Stephano, Scarlett. On the other hand, for Terrans to excel, it needs APM and multitasking, something which Korean Terrans are generally better at compared to foreign terrans. Having said this, there are some really decent foreign terrans like Thorzain

Just this fact alone shows how difficult it is to play as T.

Crazy APM and multitasking is highly overrated by the general community. Terran actually doesn't take that. Sure you can have crazy harass as terran, but you don't need it. Goody has beaten MMA and loads of top players, and Destiny plays LOL faster than he plays SC2. Thorzain and Polt don't have insane apm or multitask either. Reading the forums you'd think that every successful terran player is this sick crazy fast beast and every successful zerg/protoss is slow and bad compared to them, only winning from imba shit like infestor and forcefield. Stephano, Scarlett, Dongraegu, Life, and other top zergs are just as fast(and in many cases much faster) than top terran players.
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 09:56:05
December 19 2012 09:53 GMT
#32
Honestly, this sounds stupid, but a bunch of korean Terran progamers chose Terran because they're humans and it was cool to be defending from the invaders. It has nothing to do with how strong a certain race is. At least I've read from a lot of interviews and fan cafes.

And of course, the vast majority of bonjwas were Terran in Broodwar. That helps too.
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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
December 19 2012 09:57 GMT
#33
terran is hardest race to play but imo is the most entertaining to play if you like a challenge, i.e. a lot of multitasking
CYFAWS
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 10:01:17
December 19 2012 10:00 GMT
#34
well t is the only race that doesn't get free base defense, maphack and 1a armies ::DDDD :Dd :DDD:D:D:D :D

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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
December 19 2012 10:01 GMT
#35
People were anti-Terran when the game first released and people were choosing their races so they wanted to be a part of the uprising.
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
December 19 2012 10:01 GMT
#36
On December 19 2012 18:41 Nisyax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:26 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stim_to_the_Win_Tournament

Lucifron beat the hell out of Stephano in that series, also check race distribution x)


and yeah what people are saying, what T requires skillwise, is what really differ foreigners from Koreans (apm).

But, dont forget the Empire terrans; Beasty, Bratok, Kas and Happy are all great Terrans!






You do realize that tournaments takes 75% terran on purpose?


Haha the tournament title is really appropriate :D
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 19 2012 10:05 GMT
#37
On December 19 2012 19:00 CYFAWS wrote:
well t is the only race that doesn't get free base defense, maphack and 1a armies ::DDDD :Dd :DDD:D:D:D :D


Ah you are wrong. PF's are pretty much free base defense. Zerg doesn't get free base defense.

Also the common misconception from terrans is they think zergs/tosses just A move. If they just a moved then their army would be obliterated (unless they are just so far ahead they can A move, but terran can do that to ^^).

Aka if I A move my ling/bane army guess what? All my banes will hit whatever is closest so like tanks which is bad bad, or they might attack in the most retarded way possible allowing tank shots to do more damage or certain marines to do more damage then they should.

When I think of something else, something will go here
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 19 2012 10:09 GMT
#38
On December 19 2012 18:44 wingless666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:04 blade55555 wrote:
Terran takes a lot of APM which a lot of foreigners don't have. That is kind of the reason korean terrans are so good is they have a lot of apm and thus can use terran in ways foreigners can't due to being to slow.


Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:13 kckkryptonite wrote:
Because Terran is the hardest race to play well and generally requires the most micro/multitask.


And thats the point i dont understand. (Yes i am a noob). Why is terran so "hard" ? I mean zerg have to inject, protoss need to chrono boost and must warp in units. And all three races have their casters. And for all three races positioning is a key element in every fight. So please can you explain what i am not seeing ?

And why cant the foreignes train to have the required apm ?

PS : i am very sorry that i forgot about Kas, and Happy did well in the euro finals i think but i didnt saw much from strelok or bratok


Because when you're terran, looking away from your army for two seconds could mean that everything is dead.
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
December 19 2012 10:09 GMT
#39
On December 19 2012 19:00 CYFAWS wrote:
well t is the only race that doesn't get free base defense, maphack and 1a armies ::DDDD :Dd :DDD:D:D:D :D

pretty accurate
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Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
December 19 2012 10:11 GMT
#40
On December 19 2012 18:30 GolemMadness wrote:
Terran is the hardest and least forgiving race.


This is pretty much it imo. Foreigners don't have the skill level of top Koreans (which the race is balanced around) and therefore suffer because the race is so unforgiving.
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