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The Shadow of WCS: Chinese SC2 scene interview - Page 2

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Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
December 12 2012 19:38 GMT
#21
I really hope Blizzard comes out with a f2p model with advertising soon, it would help the seen sooo much imo. It seems like paying is a really big deal in China, and that's a shame.

In the west it may feel like that's not as big of a problem. When I talk about Starcraft to my friends, some of them decide to buy it just to give it a shot, the money's not the biggest deal. But the thing is, so many more people could get into the game if it had a f2p version.

Why do you think LoL got so many players so fast? Not because it was anything revolutionary, just because it was a decent enough game that came out of a f2p model at the right time. It was the first big MOBA that tried to make a free, stand-alone game, and because of this many people gave this 'new' genre a try and really liked it.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
December 12 2012 19:46 GMT
#22
Nice interview Monk!
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ILOVEWAR
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
December 12 2012 20:02 GMT
#23
I was BWC and it hurted my heart to see what for kind of state SC2 was. The same thing for WCG-Prelims. The people are trying very hard but its just... 3 bucks a month or 9 bucks for a life time. Paid games will never work in china.

The scene level is pretty horrobile, I even almost qualified for the WCG-China until I got stomped by F1. Im just a master terran @ eu
If you dont like war, go play tetris...
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
December 12 2012 20:13 GMT
#24
Very interesting read, thanks for conducting the interviews and posting!
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Fenrisulf
Profile Joined August 2010
United States325 Posts
December 12 2012 20:16 GMT
#25
Very informative interview.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
December 12 2012 20:20 GMT
#26
It is nice to read about the Chinese scene. Thanks Monk, Archer & digmouse.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
December 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#27
On December 13 2012 03:56 monk. wrote:
Archer: The Chinese SCII scene is like a lost kid


dawww, cute mental image ftw
My religion is Starcraft
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 20:50:41
December 12 2012 20:34 GMT
#28
I have F91 aka Xiaose on my skype friends list.

digmouse: The Chinese scene almost has no major connections with the western scene or Taiwanese scene. The former is limited language barriers and time differences, while the latter has no such issues, but is simply not being explored yet. We've tried several times to collude with the western scene, but none of them have turned out well. I know that at BWC, Archer started a talk with TeSL as a initiative to connect China and Taiwan more to help each other.


I could help. I'm a chinese-speaking American who is looking for work in the eSports industry.
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Ambre
Profile Joined July 2011
France416 Posts
December 12 2012 20:35 GMT
#29
Thank you so much. This is fascinating !

Very nice job.
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Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
December 12 2012 20:51 GMT
#30
so sad to hear about this, rly wish the scene in china succeeds
MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
December 12 2012 20:54 GMT
#31
funny how much i'm into Starcraft yet I never knew ANYTHING about this.. huh..
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
December 12 2012 20:56 GMT
#32
Great interview, Monk. Thanks for sharing this with us and thanks to Archer and Digmouse for spending the time to share their information about the SC2 scene in China.
sighsigh
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia40 Posts
December 12 2012 21:01 GMT
#33
On December 13 2012 04:37 mikkmagro wrote:
really nice and informative interview! I think that the Pay to play model is a big factor in the cause for the game being not as popular; it pretty much eliminates any new audience - young people can't afford to pay most of the time. When faced with competition from games like LoL which is free, sc2 gets crushed .

Eitherway, it's great to see that it is still fairly popular! Would be great to have more information about the teams (iG, Spider, World Elite etc) and the Chinese domestic leagues (G-League, NEO Star League etc.)


I also think the same, can teamliquid.net start thinking about perhaps writing news articles about the Taiwanese and Chinese scenes? I know next to nothing when it comes to these regions except the few times I look through wiki, while I'm very familiar with the Korean and Western scene due to tl's extensive coverage.
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
December 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#34
Superb interview, its cool to learn about the Chinese scene. I hope we get to see more of them in the future !
twitter@RickyMarou
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
December 12 2012 21:21 GMT
#35
Well... at least Dota 2 is doing well in China.
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
December 12 2012 21:28 GMT
#36
On December 13 2012 05:34 Enders116 wrote:
I have F91 aka Xiaose on my skype friends list.

Show nested quote +
digmouse: The Chinese scene almost has no major connections with the western scene or Taiwanese scene. The former is limited language barriers and time differences, while the latter has no such issues, but is simply not being explored yet. We've tried several times to collude with the western scene, but none of them have turned out well. I know that at BWC, Archer started a talk with TeSL as a initiative to connect China and Taiwan more to help each other.


I could help. I'm a chinese-speaking American who is looking for work in the eSports industry.


Isnt xiaose a caster and f91 a player
Goku.
Profile Joined November 2012
Poland22 Posts
December 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#37
Always good to know some stuff from "the other side of the hill"!
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Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
December 12 2012 21:31 GMT
#38
On December 13 2012 06:28 Rescawen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 05:34 Enders116 wrote:
I have F91 aka Xiaose on my skype friends list.

digmouse: The Chinese scene almost has no major connections with the western scene or Taiwanese scene. The former is limited language barriers and time differences, while the latter has no such issues, but is simply not being explored yet. We've tried several times to collude with the western scene, but none of them have turned out well. I know that at BWC, Archer started a talk with TeSL as a initiative to connect China and Taiwan more to help each other.


I could help. I'm a chinese-speaking American who is looking for work in the eSports industry.


Isnt xiaose a caster and f91 a player


yea they aren't the same person
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
December 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#39
i've talked to players from china in regards to the scene and invitations towards international scenes, it's more or less the community still doesn't know much about the players relatively to other games, hopefully they start to make more contacts with the western media and start to have more publicity
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
December 12 2012 21:45 GMT
#40
Wow monk you shoulda told me you got this up ^^
Retrospectively I would have some of my statements changed a little but I realized sometimes a bit harsh words doesn't hurt.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
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