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The Shadow of WCS: Chinese SC2 scene interview - Page 5

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xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 09:12:13
December 13 2012 09:11 GMT
#81
Wild Chinese Apear!

btw, Blitz actually realized something, Hots in China is free to play if u bought the full version of WoL(not the monthly fee)
toss is op is op is op ( ̄へ ̄) || Slayers MMA / BOXER / NESTEA / PARTING / DRG / F91 / COMM
xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
December 13 2012 09:27 GMT
#82
plus, the info said in the article is mostly correct.
and ,check out this publicity film for the first NSL(one of the major sc2 tournaments in China ) hold earlier this year, http://s.163.com/12/0323/17/7TA3UVMJ00314D09.html#p=7TA2LDGA2IIQ0031

NSL 2 is going right now, F91 fighting~
toss is op is op is op ( ̄へ ̄) || Slayers MMA / BOXER / NESTEA / PARTING / DRG / F91 / COMM
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
December 13 2012 09:48 GMT
#83
On December 13 2012 15:47 Zenniv wrote:
I hate MarsTV, their commentators r absolute shit. And they do nothing except streaming gsl. NeoTVs internet has gotten much better since, GomTV needs to give them back the broadcasting rights ASAP for 2013.


This. I mean mrs.joy and xiaose are the only casters who are on tastosis lv
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
December 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#84
On December 13 2012 18:48 Rescawen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 15:47 Zenniv wrote:
I hate MarsTV, their commentators r absolute shit. And they do nothing except streaming gsl. NeoTVs internet has gotten much better since, GomTV needs to give them back the broadcasting rights ASAP for 2013.


This. I mean mrs.joy and xiaose are the only casters who are on tastosis lv

Caster bashing is really unnecessary. The casters of MarsTV are all hard working and passionate people, it's just thing that are beyond their control that result in this situation.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
December 13 2012 10:23 GMT
#85
Great stuff
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Gorg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany261 Posts
December 13 2012 10:27 GMT
#86
On December 13 2012 12:59 PiPoGevy wrote:
Warcraft IV, when that day comes <3


sadly, wow destroyed the warcraft universe beyond any possible repair. only option left for them would be some kind of prequel storywise.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#87
Thank you for the interview. It was somewhat depressing to hear about how poor the proSC2 scene is there. It was also disconcerting to hear about potential failings with Blizzard over their release of Wings of Liberty there. I hope they are doing their best not to "assume" too much with Heart of the Swarm.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
December 13 2012 11:13 GMT
#88
moar chinese seeds in western tournaments!
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
December 13 2012 11:52 GMT
#89
Netease = Nestea???? IS THERE ANYTHING HE DOESN'T DO?!?!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
zxd123
Profile Joined September 2011
China64 Posts
December 13 2012 12:02 GMT
#90
On December 13 2012 20:52 mikedebo wrote:
Netease = Nestea???? IS THERE ANYTHING HE DOESN'T DO?!?!

netease is a chinese wetsite.
www.163.com
tossgirl
MnM.ThxUtoo
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1 Post
December 13 2012 12:41 GMT
#91
I'm from China and it is so sad that most of my friends don't plays SC2 in China even most of them were ever blizzard fans. Even tho now i live in NA, i still don't have a lot of friends who play SC2 in real life, just don't get the reason.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 13 2012 17:08 GMT
#92
On December 13 2012 09:08 monk. wrote:
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On December 13 2012 04:19 JustPassingBy wrote:
Thanks for the interview, but there are some inconsistancies:

On December 13 2012 03:56 monk. wrote:
monk: What's the current state of the SCII scene in China?

Archer: In general, SCII in China is way better than people might think. We have thousands of new players entering the game. We have major tournaments going on and broadcasting everyday, with a lot of news, videos, interviews etc. But the problems is huge as well. A lot of players leave after trying SCII as they think it's hard. The remaining core players are mostly old BW fans coming along, having established a career or family. SCII for them is mostly watching tournaments and video.

The pro scene is even more lackluster. We have no more than 20 full-time progamers, and most are veteran players dated back to even BW days. We rarely see new blood coming in. Only iG and Spider have team houses now, and the rest few teams are only training online. Our players are actually pretty good, with 7-10 always being in Korean GM, but the lack of tournaments results in a lack of experience, which leads to the biggest bottle neck for Chinese players.

I think he means there's lots of small online tournaments and foreign rebroadcasts, but no big LANs.

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On December 13 2012 04:21 Targe wrote:
Nice article monk!

Since this interview, Archer has quit Netease and thus s.163.com for personal reasons. Netease is moving its game channel(game.163.com) to Hangzhou, but Archer wanted to stay in Beijing.


Owe. What does that mean for SC2 coverage in china?

Someone will replace him.


Phew.. from the way I read the article it sounded like he was the only decent editor in the China SC2 scene!
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
December 14 2012 01:36 GMT
#93
On December 13 2012 05:51 Rescawen wrote:
so sad to hear about this, rly wish the scene in china succeeds

The saddest part about it is, the only way that SC2 could reach as much success in China as Dota or BW would be if it was 100% free like LoL or Dota 2.

However, the very insinuation of this idea on my part is absurd. Blizzard would lose so much in the process.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 03:03:54
December 14 2012 03:00 GMT
#94
On December 13 2012 19:05 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 18:48 Rescawen wrote:
On December 13 2012 15:47 Zenniv wrote:
I hate MarsTV, their commentators r absolute shit. And they do nothing except streaming gsl. NeoTVs internet has gotten much better since, GomTV needs to give them back the broadcasting rights ASAP for 2013.


This. I mean mrs.joy and xiaose are the only casters who are on tastosis lv

Caster bashing is really unnecessary. The casters of MarsTV are all hard working and passionate people, it's just thing that are beyond their control that result in this situation.


I'm not so sure about the passionate part, the lack of any sort of tournaments/analysis-vods by MarsTV is really disturbing. Can you think of a single foreign organizer that ONLY does casting and nothing else? They r in for the money and that's it...

Edit: PS it doesn't help that their casting is bad as well (knowledge, humor, articulation are all lacking ... can you get any worse at casting a game??)
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