EPTThe Shadow of WCS: Chinese SC2 scene interview - Page 3
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
Its a good e-sport but in every other department it falls behind WC3 with a cheesy, un-imaginative political correct campaign, hardly any featured user made maps and b-net 2.0, which sucks compared to the b-net we had in WC3. So howcome SC2 is popular in the western world? Because of BW and its history cause when the orginal SC launched back in 1998 a lot of homes had internet and pc´s but this wasnt the case in China. The Starcraft universe simply doesnt mean much in China. The Blizzard era is over and unless, by some miracle, HoTS turns out to be fantastic in every way and not just as an e-sport, I dont see the sale numbers in China sky rocket. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
I don't think the chinese market is a lost cause, when appropriate steps are taken, the scene should get a positive boost. | ||
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willyallthewei
United States265 Posts
You cannot do the basic boxed retail business model in China, it doesn't work. PC bangs are huge over there, and non of the PC bangs use legitimate copies, they all pirate their games, so if you take out lan, you take out China, sorry. Blizzard has 2 options: #1 give the game LAN and figure out a way to monetize tournament scene revenue that can recapture more than the money lost to piracy. #2 - make the game F2P with an entirely different business model and game features (such as an official arcade mode with extra units/skins/etc., that you purchase) to cater to this market. I doubt the analysts in their finance department have explored option 1 and i doubt the developers at that hodgepodge of a huge ass company could ever work intimately enough with the guys from corporate to make #2 a reality either. Big companies lack dynamism and creativity, these problems are most likely not getting solved anytime soon. | ||
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UrsusRex
United States85 Posts
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zEnVy
United States446 Posts
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Rainman5419
United States92 Posts
From my reading of this interview Blizzard mismanaged the launch of SC2 in China a bit, and killed off their momentum from WC3. I'm not sure what they set the one-time purchase price at now that it's an option, but if it's cheap(like most software is in China, due to piracy) then hopefully they keep that going and get a good HotS launch. If Blizzard really wants E-sports and their Chinese market to grow then hopefully they using BWC and feedback like this to help boost the scene. I look forward to seeing more Chinese pros rise up to the level of Sen. | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
SCII is, in its root, a competitive traditional RTS with a deep learning curve and high skill ceiling. Even with easier mechanics and better UI than BW and WC3, SCII is still way harder compared to other competitive games in the market. And the Chinese players, in my opinion, are more against these hard games They don't just play for fun, but for easy fun. I think this is a really good point. Although 1v1 is the flagship mode in SC2, no amount of casualization will make it attractive enough for casuals. It will always be hardcore and competitive. Addressing the issues in team games and custom games should be the main way to capture and retain casual audiences, not making the 1v1 game more casual. | ||
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DayaL
United States30 Posts
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Lightswarm
Canada966 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:04 mikedebo wrote: I hope to god Archer's code name is Duchess. I see what you did there ^^ | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
On December 13 2012 04:19 JustPassingBy wrote: Thanks for the interview, but there are some inconsistancies: I think he means there's lots of small online tournaments and foreign rebroadcasts, but no big LANs. On December 13 2012 04:21 Targe wrote: Nice article monk! Owe. What does that mean for SC2 coverage in china? Someone will replace him. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
I just double-checked my skype contacts. I only have xiaose. Never had F91. I don't know what made me think that... | ||
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DKR
United Kingdom622 Posts
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MVega
763 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:14 DaCruise wrote: SC2 will never get as popular in China as WC3 because its simply not as good as WC3. Its a good e-sport but in every other department it falls behind WC3 with a cheesy, un-imaginative political correct campaign, hardly any featured user made maps and b-net 2.0, which sucks compared to the b-net we had in WC3. So howcome SC2 is popular in the western world? Because of BW and its history cause when the orginal SC launched back in 1998 a lot of homes had internet and pc´s but this wasnt the case in China. The Starcraft universe simply doesnt mean much in China. The Blizzard era is over and unless, by some miracle, HoTS turns out to be fantastic in every way and not just as an e-sport, I dont see the sale numbers in China sky rocket. What? I disagree completely. As an above poster mentioned a fair amount of WC3's success was due to it's ease of access through piracy which is huge in China. Obviously whether a game is better or worse than another is opinion, but as someone who played WarCraft 3 from the time it came out and for several years after that, beta tested the expansion, was ranked in the top 20 on US and top 50 Euro ladders, etc I cannot see a single way that StarCraft 2 isn't as good as WarCraft 3 other than the custom map scene. Which is partially Blizzard's fault for the lack of intuitive interface for the first 2 years or whatever of StarCraft 2's life and the map editor is more powerful but a lot less user friendly. | ||
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Zergrusher
United States562 Posts
Get it on TV and streaming online. Also they should make SC2 and HOTS be Cheaper in china | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Zergrusher
United States562 Posts
On December 13 2012 09:59 GreyKnight wrote: sc2 isn't as popular in china for the same reasons as in korea but just more so Because collosi? | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2111 Posts
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