EPTThe Shadow of WCS: Chinese SC2 scene interview - Page 4
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wptlzkwjd
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FoShao
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zheng
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Mahanaim
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But for a game like SC2, it may be best for it to be P2P rather than F2P. All I want to say is I wish the newcomers realize the depth and dynamics of SC2 and find out the immense value behind it. | ||
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fujundevil
China16 Posts
On December 13 2012 04:20 Yemaka wrote: I've might read this wrong, but does Sc2 in China cost per month? or did I misunderstod that part ? Also very nice read! We paid monthly until July 2012, the monthly charge sucks SC2 in China When Netease come to realize, a lot of potential move to LOL But honestly most of China player prefer RPG or MMORPG to RTS, and the professional player in China has a lot of things to worry about as theri salaries remains low... | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
well, you just can't take it as granted. WC3 and Starcraft 2 are different . 10 years ago in China compare to now? almost two dimensions. I tend to believe that success is almost like luck. Maybe not as rare as the origin of life, but a success like WC3, that's a miracle. | ||
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johnny123
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On December 13 2012 12:12 heaveshade wrote: Great interview. well, you just can't take it as granted. WC3 and Starcraft 2 are different . 10 years ago in China compare to now? almost two dimensions. I tend to believe that success is almost like luck. Maybe not as rare as the origin of life, but a success like WC3, that's a miracle. no its not a mircale. You make a transendant game, you get the players. Warcraft 3 was a good mix of a relaxed RTS ( hardly any macro) and lots of focus to micro ( the part that people enjoy more). Due to the fact it didnt require much macro, it was mostly heavy emphasis on micro and game plan. To be brutally honest, Starcraft 1 has only really did well in korea, It died to the western audience about 1 year after it came out, All there was is WCG.. The odd few that did play( aspiring pro gamers) was in hopes of going to korea.... They didnt play with the hope of staying in Europe , or NA.. There was no money there. The rest of us, "the casual base" all stuck to fun maps on battlenet. Warcraft 3 on the other hand, was wayyyyyyy more popular. It exploded in china, europe and NA. In korea it had limited success but that was because SC was already "the" game for them. Warcraft 3 had a ton of tournaments for the 7 or more years it lasted. Most of the pros in the foreign scene for starcraft 2 all came from warcraft 3.. If blizzard really wants to explode the RTS esport scene, warcraft 4 would have made them alot more money than sc2. SC bw from day 1 only showed success in korea. It died everywhere else very quickly. Not saying i dont like sc, i love it. But i think the first truely transcending RTS game will be warcraft 4 if it gets released | ||
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AssyrianKing
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jalstar
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forumtext
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On December 13 2012 12:48 johnny123 wrote: no its not a mircale. You make a transendant game, you get the players. Warcraft 3 was a good mix of a relaxed RTS ( hardly any macro) and lots of focus to micro ( the part that people enjoy more). Due to the fact it didnt require much macro, it was mostly heavy emphasis on micro and game plan. To be brutally honest, Starcraft 1 has only really did well in korea, It died to the western audience about 1 year after it came out, All there was is WCG.. The odd few that did play( aspiring pro gamers) was in hopes of going to korea.... They didnt play with the hope of staying in Europe , or NA.. There was no money there. The rest of us, "the casual base" all stuck to fun maps on battlenet. Warcraft 3 on the other hand, was wayyyyyyy more popular. It exploded in china, europe and NA. In korea it had limited success but that was because SC was already "the" game for them. Warcraft 3 had a ton of tournaments for the 7 or more years it lasted. Most of the pros in the foreign scene for starcraft 2 all came from warcraft 3.. If blizzard really wants to explode the RTS esport scene, warcraft 4 would have made them alot more money than sc2. SC bw from day 1 only showed success in korea. It died everywhere else very quickly. Not saying i dont like sc, i love it. But i think the first truely transcending RTS game will be warcraft 4 if it gets released If your theory is correct and Warcraft 4 is going to be successful because War 3 was successful, then SC2 should naturally be successful in Korea for precisely the same reason. Another example is Diablo 2 which is a world wide hit, but D3 bomb hard. Also I do not agree on War3 being less macro intensive is helping the game to grow. SC2 had some dumb down macro compare to BW, and I think it is precisely the reason why it is so hard to come back in a SC2 game. If your macro is the same as the opponent, then once I outnumber your army by a certain amount you will (almost) never come back because our macro ability is linear. But I have to agree with Archer, if only SC2 had LAN at the start, things might be so much different now. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On December 13 2012 11:03 Mahanaim wrote: Hopefully the Chinese scene improves over time! But for a game like SC2, it may be best for it to be P2P rather than F2P. All I want to say is I wish the newcomers realize the depth and dynamics of SC2 and find out the immense value behind it. I understand the need for SC2 to be P2P and as a "westerner," I'll always be fine with paying for a Blizzard game so long as it's good. Why I'm strongly on the side for F2P in China is that I feel a lot of people underestimate the significance of China to the WC3 scene. Sure it's common sense that the ROI on pirates is next to nothing, but there must have been a decent amount of $$$ put in by organizations/tournaments for WC3 to last as long as it has. | ||
lichter
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IMLyte
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Shyndashu
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Glimred
China888 Posts
I'll be honest, I didn't know mainland China had a SC2 scene at all, even though I live in Beijing. I go to a wang ba (chinese pc bang) about once a week and I have never seen a single person play sc2. | ||
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