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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 00:52:24
December 20 2012 20:34 GMT
#1681
On December 19 2012 15:27 nomyx wrote:
agreed with OP, way too many patch zergs as of late. Check out the terran winners in 2012 post queen / ovie buff

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments


There are "54" 1st and 2nd place finishers since Queen Buff on 10 May.

9 of whom are Terran.

Also note that Taeja represents nearly half of those (4 total). MVP also takes 2 spots.
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 21 2012 12:34 GMT
#1682
I don't think Blizzard rigged the game, I just think that Blizzard, like all other old studios (e.g. id software) suck nowadays (point made by sc2, and point confirmed by diablo3 and sc2 balance patches) and have no clue on what they're doing. Basically, eSport is just a marketing word used to sell SC2 in Blizzard's minds, nothing else. It works because every fat and ugly white kid wants to be a superstar for at least 5 minutes without having to break a sweat/move from his room.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
ColtCrime
Profile Joined September 2012
Romania8 Posts
December 21 2012 13:03 GMT
#1683
Blizzard rigging the game sounds ridiculous,what i think is wrong with Blizz is that they rely on win rates to decide whether or not the game is balanced.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#1684
On December 21 2012 22:03 ColtCrime wrote:
Blizzard rigging the game sounds ridiculous,what i think is wrong with Blizz is that they rely on win rates to decide whether or not the game is balanced.


Eh, consider the millions of dollars they will make if Zerg is the best race and even getting the best and coolest new units going into a Zerg expansion.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 21 2012 13:17 GMT
#1685
On December 21 2012 05:34 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 15:27 nomyx wrote:
agreed with OP, way too many patch zergs as of late. Check out the terran winners in 2012 post queen / ovie buff

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments


There are "54" 1st and 2nd place finishers since Queen Buff on 10 May.

9 of whom are Terran.

Also note that Taeja represents nearly half of those (4 total). MVP also takes 2 spots.


Very disturbing numbers IMO. I just hope that terran can come back in HOTS because Im tired of PvP and PvZ on ladder.
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
December 21 2012 13:30 GMT
#1686
On December 21 2012 21:34 esdf wrote:
I don't think Blizzard rigged the game, I just think that Blizzard, like all other old studios (e.g. id software) suck nowadays (point made by sc2, and point confirmed by diablo3 and sc2 balance patches) and have no clue on what they're doing. Basically, eSport is just a marketing word used to sell SC2 in Blizzard's minds, nothing else. It works because every fat and ugly white kid wants to be a superstar for at least 5 minutes without having to break a sweat/move from his room.


Wow someone's angry. I can say with certainty that your cynicism and hatred is unwarranted. Diablo 3 is infinitely better now than it was on release.

If anything, people have become somewhat desensitized to the level of play seen by current SC2 professionals. Games that are considered run of the mill, standard play now would have shocked and amazed viewers two years ago.
I am a tournament organizazer.
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
December 21 2012 14:29 GMT
#1687
On December 21 2012 05:34 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 15:27 nomyx wrote:
agreed with OP, way too many patch zergs as of late. Check out the terran winners in 2012 post queen / ovie buff

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments


There are "54" 1st and 2nd place finishers since Queen Buff on 10 May.

9 of whom are Terran.

Also note that Taeja represents nearly half of those (4 total). MVP also takes 2 spots.


Yeah that's pretty bad but also notice what? The best terrans represent the majority of wins? What a shocker.
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
December 22 2012 06:50 GMT
#1688
This for me personally is the article of the year on TL, I play all 3 races and really don't mind if Zerg is over-represented at the top because of their superior skill level. However I must say that imho this is certainly not the case, Zerg seems to just win every late game and only lose those early-mid games where they are outplayed/caught unprepared against a timing/all-in.

Needless to say, there's been a tonne of ZvZ especially at the ending stages of any tournament, fact is this bores me a little, I don't hate the ZvZ matchup but imo it's less interesting than TvT and 2012 really made me miss 2011 GomTvT... Also, Infestor BL win win win every game just seriously sucks.

I hope Blizz will do something before I lose interest completely, I used to watch so much sc2... Nowadays I even skip GSL finals Sniper vs Hyun for example. And Blizzard Cup Z fest... Only Parting is in the way of all-imba race representation.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 22 2012 08:15 GMT
#1689
On December 22 2012 15:50 Khai wrote:
This for me personally is the article of the year on TL, I play all 3 races and really don't mind if Zerg is over-represented at the top because of their superior skill level. However I must say that imho this is certainly not the case, Zerg seems to just win every late game and only lose those early-mid games where they are outplayed/caught unprepared against a timing/all-in.

Needless to say, there's been a tonne of ZvZ especially at the ending stages of any tournament, fact is this bores me a little, I don't hate the ZvZ matchup but imo it's less interesting than TvT and 2012 really made me miss 2011 GomTvT... Also, Infestor BL win win win every game just seriously sucks.

I hope Blizz will do something before I lose interest completely, I used to watch so much sc2... Nowadays I even skip GSL finals Sniper vs Hyun for example. And Blizzard Cup Z fest... Only Parting is in the way of all-imba race representation.


personally I wouldn't mine the over-abundance of zerg if there was multiple strategies to see. But it's just turtle until brood lord / infestor death ball, a move, GG !
_Omni
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1 Post
December 22 2012 08:49 GMT
#1690
Would the OP please put as much work into analyzing Terran wins from before 2012, as he did tear apart Zerg here? Obviously a Terran player... the QQ feels good. LOL @ infestors being buffed again!
Kalsdou
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1 Post
December 22 2012 15:32 GMT
#1691
Starcraft 2 never will be balanced while Infestors(Infested terrans, Fungal), Brood lord, Forcefields stays in the game and now Time warp, Swarm host??? WHAT
Zergs shouldn't have free units, they are insects not zombie.

User was banned for this post.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 18:57:56
December 22 2012 18:51 GMT
#1692
HSC 6 again proves the point of the OP. Great job Blizzard.

SC2 balance team = incompetent

+

Blizzard design team = Diablo 3

=

Only good graphics left.
Skyblueone
Profile Joined June 2012
Belgium155 Posts
December 22 2012 19:45 GMT
#1693
xlord is a patch zerg
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
December 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#1694
So...homestory cup...wake up blizzard.
Sup
madespecifically
Profile Joined December 2012
39 Posts
December 22 2012 22:14 GMT
#1695
On December 23 2012 06:58 avilo wrote:
So...homestory cup...wake up blizzard.

And GSL, and IPL, and MLG, and previous homestory, and previous GSL, and previous IPL, and Dreamhack, and Blizzard Cup, and Tournament of Champions. Zergs. Some tosses. No terrans. Seems balanced to me.
rbx270j
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
December 22 2012 22:26 GMT
#1696
On December 21 2012 22:30 alexanderzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 21:34 esdf wrote:
I don't think Blizzard rigged the game, I just think that Blizzard, like all other old studios (e.g. id software) suck nowadays (point made by sc2, and point confirmed by diablo3 and sc2 balance patches) and have no clue on what they're doing. Basically, eSport is just a marketing word used to sell SC2 in Blizzard's minds, nothing else. It works because every fat and ugly white kid wants to be a superstar for at least 5 minutes without having to break a sweat/move from his room.


Wow someone's angry. I can say with certainty that your cynicism and hatred is unwarranted. Diablo 3 is infinitely better now than it was on release.

If anything, people have become somewhat desensitized to the level of play seen by current SC2 professionals. Games that are considered run of the mill, standard play now would have shocked and amazed viewers two years ago.



I've been meaning to ask someone. How's the PvP?
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
December 22 2012 22:29 GMT
#1697
On December 21 2012 22:11 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 22:03 ColtCrime wrote:
Blizzard rigging the game sounds ridiculous,what i think is wrong with Blizz is that they rely on win rates to decide whether or not the game is balanced.


Eh, consider the millions of dollars they will make if Zerg is the best race and even getting the best and coolest new units going into a Zerg expansion.


That doesn't even make sense.

Why would they make more money for making one race imbalanced?
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
December 22 2012 22:40 GMT
#1698
On December 23 2012 04:45 Skyblueone wrote:
xlord is a patch zerg


No he isnt at all he had already quite success in the EPS and was studying and is now full time sc2.
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
December 22 2012 23:03 GMT
#1699
Thanks blizzard for making the SC2 unwatchable for many people.There are a lot of zergs after zerg buffs and all of them play same.If I dont look at player names I would never guessed who was the player.There is same thing every game.Make 3 bases then make infestors then make a unbeatable hive army and win the game.I dont care the results it is unwatchable for many people.
Having an ability to stop other playing microing is really retarded and uninspiring.And it doesnt require skill to place fungals.You cant miss them there is no missile and it is instant.And once you fungal one you can fungal same unit over and over again this is really wrong...
I hope they learn from their mistakes and make a better game in HOTS.
日本語が上手ですね
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
December 22 2012 23:04 GMT
#1700
Intresting post to say the least.
Maru, TY, Clem <3
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