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KOtical
Germany451 Posts
On December 04 2012 17:50 elKaDor wrote: go immortal sentry allin and u will get a freewin, god im tired of this patchzerg shit ok so ur generally saying all terrans should switch to P and immortal sentry all-in is the solution for the whole game to be balanced... great mindset  | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On December 04 2012 03:58 Ver wrote: ![[image loading]](/staff/Ver/sc2/funnyarticle/new/real/rsz_stephano_pose.jpg) This is what fans want to see Soe? yeah, seems about right  | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
On December 04 2012 17:56 KOtical wrote: ok so ur generally saying all terrans should switch to P and immortal sentry all-in is the solution for the whole game to be balanced... great mindset I think if zergs used contaminate on the robo, (and forge if its making upgrades), zerg could shut down the immortal sentry all in. Especially, since the protoss will have very few stalkers to stop the overseers when they use that build and sentries are slower and lower dps. Just landing 2 or 3 contaminates on the robo would delay the build enough to cripple the all in's timing. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10132 Posts
On December 04 2012 17:56 KOtical wrote: ok so ur generally saying all terrans should switch to P and immortal sentry all-in is the solution for the whole game to be balanced... great mindset No the guy is just whining because he loses to immortal sentry allin. And then add a remark of how tired he is of people calling others patchzergs  | ||
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:07 Reborn8u wrote: I think if zergs used contaminate on the robo, (and forge if its making upgrades), zerg could shut down the immortal sentry all in. Especially, since the protoss will have very few stalkers to stop the overseers when they use that build and sentries are slower and lower dps. Just landing 2 or 3 contaminates on the robo would delay the build enough to cripple the all in's timing. No this would not work at all. Zergs don't normally start lair until 7 minutes and overseers start with 50 energy and you need 125 to do contaminate. The push moves out at 10 minutes. It is impossible unless you decide to do like a 6 minute lair which would make holding off any 2 base push harder. | ||
ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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AfricanPsycho
South Africa158 Posts
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Mia
75 Posts
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elKaDor
Sweden376 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:11 Godwrath wrote: No the guy is just whining because he loses to immortal sentry allin. And then add a remark of how tired he is of people calling others patchzergs i have never lost to an immortal sentry allin since i havent played any game in about 1,5 year, cuz the game is a total failure. BUT it was kinda fun to watch tournaments but it isnt anymore cuz all u see is immortal sentry allins, if that fails then Z will roflstomp P lategame. U enjoy this game? | ||
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Strelok
Ukraine320 Posts
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straycat
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Mia
75 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:27 straycat wrote: Hmm so if I don't go infestor in ZvT, I'm clear of any patchzerg charges, is that what we're saying? no, you are still using siege tank queens, who enable 80 drones and 3bases unharrased. | ||
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Strelok
Ukraine320 Posts
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Mia
75 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:33 Strelok wrote: Blizzard clearly needs to make micro units with big DPS for every race, like marines for terrans. If you micro good - you win, if bad - you loose. And reduce power of no micro units like infestors. That's the only way to make game balanced. zergs would qq at the idea of actually having to micro there units | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:27 straycat wrote: Hmm so if I don't go infestor in ZvT, I'm clear of any patchzerg charges, is that what we're saying? The Infestor is just responsible for making the game boring and lowering the skillcap for Zerg, the other side of this is the queen buff which makes it so hard to stop creep spread or harass Zerg at all to delay their economy. Honestly with the massively improved economy from the queen buff (assuming 6 queen build or the like) I feel like Zerg would be slightly favored in ZvT even without the Infestor as long as they adapted to actually flanking and counter attacking, which would be especially powerful in the current maps given their size. I honestly don't know why we don't see this more, Violet vs Polt from IPL5 is a great example of how powerful counterattacks can be, especially game 4 where violet basically lost to Polt's all-in but managed to drag the game on for another 10+ minutes and have a decent shot at winning due to his constant counter attacks. Edit: Polt and Bomber crushed quite a few Zerg's in the last few matches, but it was due to their opponents going muta / ling / bling without counterattacking or flanking (and going for huge timings which failed). Going either infestor or using counterattacks and flanks (with muta / ling / bling for example) is very hard for Terran to deal with atm, and when they do both like in the games Violet won vs Polt it's just no contest. | ||
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ultratorr
Canada332 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:33 Strelok wrote: Blizzard clearly needs to make micro units with big DPS for every race, like marines for terrans. If you micro good - you win, if bad - you loose. And reduce power of no micro units like infestors. That's the only way to make game balanced. Precisely. Powerful units/unit compositions should be difficult to use and have downsides, like Terran mech | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On December 04 2012 18:33 Strelok wrote: Blizzard clearly needs to make micro units with big DPS for every race, like marines for terrans. If you micro good - you win, if bad - you loose. And reduce power of no micro units like infestors. That's the only way to make game balanced. Wow, you still post on TL ^^ Wish you were still around to beat up Hyun Edit: Typing is not my forte... | ||
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