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Somebody should Dustin Browder that he is wrong. Just for kicks 
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On November 21 2012 07:34 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 06:31 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 05:33 kyllinghest wrote:On November 21 2012 05:17 paradiset16 wrote:
All I heard in this interview is that Zerg op Zerg op Zerg op and that's bull crap the zerg isn't op I feel its under powered because of what other races can do and if other races weren't so dumb. And clump units together and make them fungal able of the mother ship neural situation not send their mother ship to the front of their army the mother ship has more range then neural and goes automatically and neural has a delay so all this crap about changing the infestor is bull crap for the first time scence the beta we have a unit that sustains equality between the game and Zerg players shouldn't be punished for finding out this unit that is what we need and have to use to win cause if you look at most games we do not use infestors we auto lose against death ball bio tank and the most bull shit composition mass air for Protoss with mother ship and storms is stead of looking at the Zerg and blaming the Zerg you should be look at Zerg players and loving them because unlike the other races the found a unit that is the best in their race and use it so instead of changeling them other races shouldn't be dumb asses and have their unit be fungalable because you should know Zerg is going infestors and if they aren't usually it's baneling lung muta so please stop just saying Zerg op Zerg op this needs to be changed no it doesn't need to be changed you need to change and play better If all the other races are so dumb, maybe you could enlighten us about how we can fight the infestor better? I think you would be surprised if you tried playing terran and protoss for a game or 20 each. On a different note I think some puctuation would do your text good! . . Ok the Amin thing that differs between races that makes other races dumb is that they don't have the mental stability to just figure out what to do when they have. The ability that the races have to Harrass and expand and just build an army is substantial to what Zerg can only do they can ONLY rather all in or expand and go to the late game they can't harass they can't lost a BASE!!!!! And still win what Terran can do : go marine murader drops with expos and building a good army of tanks and bio with vicking if you see Burt lords , and o shit doesn't Terran have a spell caster that can do emp and take away all energy from and spell caster o shit why don't they use this and then the bio and tanks and Vikings can't get fungled ooh look at that !!!!!!! And or right now Thor vicking is one o the best compositions you can do Protos: first thing wasn't the bwc finals 2 Protoss wow look at that and they don't need and thing the have the best units and they use them but don't use them to the fullest blink stalkers are the most bull shit unit every I never knew they were able to turn into immortals when they get blink and the do a shit ton of damage also if proposes are complaining about getting neural end and then vortex is gone don't be a dumb ass and send the mother ship to the front of your army they had more range than neural and it's a automatic spell no delay like neural And there you go and that's what you can do !!!!!!!!! : also Protoss can just have 8-12 hightemplar and mass storm any army will just melt and o look high Templar also has a spell that can actually kill infestors and and are better range than infestors so I don't know why you all complain and bitch I'm sick of hearing this bitching I don't want to be overly critical, but this and your last two posts were almost unreadable. Please use . and , and paragraphs, they are your friends <3
1st is dont care what you think i used an ipad to type all this not my regular keyboard. i had auto correct fucking me over every 2 seconds and just didnt care because this bull shit about all you people screaming over powered over powered is bull shit. back when zergs didnt have infestors we did this about the protos death ball and what to do and finaly we get a viable unit that can do what we need it do do and you dont even use them and you just want to get ride of them!!!!!
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On November 21 2012 08:45 Erik.TheRed wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 06:31 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 05:33 kyllinghest wrote:On November 21 2012 05:17 paradiset16 wrote:
All I heard in this interview is that Zerg op Zerg op Zerg op and that's bull crap the zerg isn't op I feel its under powered because of what other races can do and if other races weren't so dumb. And clump units together and make them fungal able of the mother ship neural situation not send their mother ship to the front of their army the mother ship has more range then neural and goes automatically and neural has a delay so all this crap about changing the infestor is bull crap for the first time scence the beta we have a unit that sustains equality between the game and Zerg players shouldn't be punished for finding out this unit that is what we need and have to use to win cause if you look at most games we do not use infestors we auto lose against death ball bio tank and the most bull shit composition mass air for Protoss with mother ship and storms is stead of looking at the Zerg and blaming the Zerg you should be look at Zerg players and loving them because unlike the other races the found a unit that is the best in their race and use it so instead of changeling them other races shouldn't be dumb asses and have their unit be fungalable because you should know Zerg is going infestors and if they aren't usually it's baneling lung muta so please stop just saying Zerg op Zerg op this needs to be changed no it doesn't need to be changed you need to change and play better If all the other races are so dumb, maybe you could enlighten us about how we can fight the infestor better? I think you would be surprised if you tried playing terran and protoss for a game or 20 each. On a different note I think some puctuation would do your text good! . . Ok the Amin thing that differs between races that makes other races dumb is that they don't have the mental stability to just figure out what to do when they have. The ability that the races have to Harrass and expand and just build an army is substantial to what Zerg can only do they can ONLY rather all in or expand and go to the late game they can't harass they can't lost a BASE!!!!! And still win what Terran can do : go marine murader drops with expos and building a good army of tanks and bio with vicking if you see Burt lords , and o shit doesn't Terran have a spell caster that can do emp and take away all energy from and spell caster o shit why don't they use this and then the bio and tanks and Vikings can't get fungled ooh look at that !!!!!!! And or right now Thor vicking is one o the best compositions you can do Protos: first thing wasn't the bwc finals 2 Protoss wow look at that and they don't need and thing the have the best units and they use them but don't use them to the fullest blink stalkers are the most bull shit unit every I never knew they were able to turn into immortals when they get blink and the do a shit ton of damage also if proposes are complaining about getting neural end and then vortex is gone don't be a dumb ass and send the mother ship to the front of your army they had more range than neural and it's a automatic spell no delay like neural And there you go and that's what you can do !!!!!!!!! : also Protoss can just have 8-12 hightemplar and mass storm any army will just melt and o look high Templar also has a spell that can actually kill infestors and and are better range than infestors so I don't know why you all complain and bitch I'm sick of hearing this bitching uhhhh wat? If this is a legit post... which I find extremely hard to believe... then I don't even. It's not even like you can blame all of that on typing mistakes, you used the term "Burt lords" among other things.
i dont care what you think you can fuck off i was usiing an ipad that auto correct was fucking me over every 2 second when i was typing what i wanted to say, but it kept doing it and i dont care what you think your a dumb ass thats probably in bronze so please go learn how to play and then come back. thanks
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On November 21 2012 09:37 Whitewing wrote:
Thors shouldn't be a counter to immortals, that's the reason strike cannon was nerfed in the first place. Terran has a powerful option to deal with immortals already: it's called the ghost. One EMP and immortals become ridiculously vulnerable to tanks. The change in cost from 150/150 to 200/100 of the ghost was a mech buff. You say you want another option, but you frankly don't really need one, ghosts are just that good. Yes they're expensive on the gas, but they cost less than immortal does and cost a lot less supply, they pair exquisitely with mech. If the thor was strong against immortals, I'm not sure how protoss would respond to thors. Air can also punish immortals as well.
Widow mines are great early game, but I think in the HOTS beta too many terrans rely on them for too long. Using them as a bridge unit early on to secure a third base should give you the gas count you need to add ghosts in, since generally the issue is that you take a later third with mech and then have no gas for them.
Best change I think mech should receive is a drop in the tank's supply cost from 3 to 2. Wouldn't change TvZ much (broods are usually out by the time mech hits max anyway, and then terran wants to change his composition) but it would be a nice change in PvT. Siege tanks are the best part about TvT anyway.
Valid point.. Haywire Missle should just be a normal attack vs Immortals then, the Hardened shields should work on them.
It would still be a better upgrade than Strike Cannon is right now, and would make Thor have a different feel to it.
I don't know how I feel about changing Tanks from 3 to 2 supply.. it would have to be balanced with 3 supply Widow Mines or something to that effect.
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On November 21 2012 07:42 BlueLanterna wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 06:31 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 05:33 kyllinghest wrote:On November 21 2012 05:17 paradiset16 wrote:
All I heard in this interview is that Zerg op Zerg op Zerg op and that's bull crap the zerg isn't op I feel its under powered because of what other races can do and if other races weren't so dumb. And clump units together and make them fungal able of the mother ship neural situation not send their mother ship to the front of their army the mother ship has more range then neural and goes automatically and neural has a delay so all this crap about changing the infestor is bull crap for the first time scence the beta we have a unit that sustains equality between the game and Zerg players shouldn't be punished for finding out this unit that is what we need and have to use to win cause if you look at most games we do not use infestors we auto lose against death ball bio tank and the most bull shit composition mass air for Protoss with mother ship and storms is stead of looking at the Zerg and blaming the Zerg you should be look at Zerg players and loving them because unlike the other races the found a unit that is the best in their race and use it so instead of changeling them other races shouldn't be dumb asses and have their unit be fungalable because you should know Zerg is going infestors and if they aren't usually it's baneling lung muta so please stop just saying Zerg op Zerg op this needs to be changed no it doesn't need to be changed you need to change and play better If all the other races are so dumb, maybe you could enlighten us about how we can fight the infestor better? I think you would be surprised if you tried playing terran and protoss for a game or 20 each. On a different note I think some puctuation would do your text good! . . Ok the Amin thing that differs between races that makes other races dumb is that they don't have the mental stability to just figure out what to do when they have. The ability that the races have to Harrass and expand and just build an army is substantial to what Zerg can only do they can ONLY rather all in or expand and go to the late game they can't harass they can't lost a BASE!!!!! And still win what Terran can do : go marine murader drops with expos and building a good army of tanks and bio with vicking if you see Burt lords , and o shit doesn't Terran have a spell caster that can do emp and take away all energy from and spell caster o shit why don't they use this and then the bio and tanks and Vikings can't get fungled ooh look at that !!!!!!! And or right now Thor vicking is one o the best compositions you can do Protos: first thing wasn't the bwc finals 2 Protoss wow look at that and they don't need and thing the have the best units and they use them but don't use them to the fullest blink stalkers are the most bull shit unit every I never knew they were able to turn into immortals when they get blink and the do a shit ton of damage also if proposes are complaining about getting neural end and then vortex is gone don't be a dumb ass and send the mother ship to the front of your army they had more range than neural and it's a automatic spell no delay like neural And there you go and that's what you can do !!!!!!!!! : also Protoss can just have 8-12 hightemplar and mass storm any army will just melt and o look high Templar also has a spell that can actually kill infestors and and are better range than infestors so I don't know why you all complain and bitch I'm sick of hearing this bitching This is literally one of the worst posts I've ever read on this forum. Absolutely no effort at all put into making it readable, and has completely subjective feelings on compositions and counters that don't even make sense, along with insulting the entire playerbase of two races. Please stop making my brain hurt.
yes i insulted the playerbase for the 2 races cause if they are truly good and know it they would be able to learn adapt and make the changes they need to win and be able to counter WAHTEVER the other player does if they play correctly and i dont care what you think about my post and what you think about the game the compositions im talking abnout are able to be viable if you keep droping with marine murader and do it while expanding and building your army as terran zerg can not beat it cause the brood lord army is so slow it cant defend drops and just to defend it with static d you need 2 spores and 6-8 spines because marine murader is just ...... in dps and fuck off i dont care what you think peace  <3
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Blizz really need to accompany Hydra buffs with the Infestor nerf, just for the sake of my sanity when it comes to reading Zerg whine.
It's unbelievable that people think "projectile fungal" is a ridiculous change. Fungal growth is currently an instant cast spell that just requires you to aim, and that group of enemies is essentially dead because of chain fungals, projectile fungals help mitigate the effectiveness of fungal and chain fungals, which is really what the game needs.
Also, people need to realise that infestors are a support unit, that means it isn't meant to be a front line attack unit that is massed like it currently is.
That is why a Hydra buff should be accompanied with the infestor nerf, if "drops" and "mass muta" are a problem, because neither should be solved by a support spellcaster.
It's unfathomable that fungal growth is a counter to every single unit in the game, and people think its fine as it is.
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On November 20 2012 21:01 monk. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 20:40 DeadByDawn wrote:On November 20 2012 19:04 DaveVAH wrote:
Monk you spent 90% of the interview talking about and asking questions about P and Z, you let Dustin skip on his brood-lord infester answer on the TvZ MU (only ZvZ and PvZ broodlord infester usage was discussed).
Does terran not exist anymore or something? how about some questions on mech in TvP hots?
We need more objectivity in these interviews. I am glad that someone else noticed this. Seems Dustin talked about Terran almost unprompted as Monk was very PvZ and ZvZ focused. I wonder what Monk plays? It's mostly because PvZ is the match-up everyone is discussing/worried about atm. I tried to include questions that I see most often discussed in the TL forums, and I think I did a good job with that. There aren't really as many heavily discussed balance-related issues in TvZ atm except late game versus infestor/broodlord. A few months ago after the queen/overlord buff, I would have asked more about TvZ. I will say, however, that I should have pressed him more on TvZ vs infestor/broodlord, but I honestly didn't realize he skipped out on the TvZ aspect of the question.
Understood. Not saying it wasn't a great interview though. I really enjoyed it (watched it twice), I just wanted a little more Terran as a T player myself. Thanks for doing the interview and the efforts made to put it up as soon as could be under the circumstances.
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IEM: 7p 0t 7z
DH: 8p 5t 7z
BWC: 13p 4t 15z
ESWC: 12p 3t 15z
DB tries to make it seem like BWC having only 4 terrans is an isolated incident, which it isnt. And all this nonsense about korean terrans being fine in TvZ...
TvZ winrate this season in GSL Code S: 18-34 34.6%
And code A TvZ is 33% right now.
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On November 21 2012 10:13 Consummate wrote:
Blizz really need to accompany Hydra buffs with the Infestor nerf, just for the sake of my sanity when it comes to reading Zerg whine.
It's unbelievable that people think "projectile fungal" is a ridiculous change. Fungal growth is currently an instant cast spell that just requires you to aim, and that group of enemies is essentially dead because of chain fungals, projectile fungals help mitigate the effectiveness of fungal and chain fungals, which is really what the game needs.
Also, people need to realise that infestors are a support unit, that means it isn't meant to be a front line attack unit that is massed like it currently is.
That is why a Hydra buff should be accompanied with the infestor nerf, if "drops" and "mass muta" are a problem, because neither should be solved by a support spellcaster.
It's unfathomable that fungal growth is a counter to every single unit in the game, and people think its fine as it is.
you hate zergs whine i hate people like you whine about the infestor and how good it is and just because we use it you go on rampages awwww the infestor OP OP OP OP Op when it is not fungal growth isnt that good it is a viable spell but if you are truly a good player you should learn adapt and change you play style just as all zergs have and you have the ability to shut down all infestor use so i dont know why it needs a nerf it is the only good unit we have that is viable ling arent viable verse groups of marines muraders and the arent viable against mech and also roaches jut evaporate to tank fire its unbelivable so please if you want to stop hear "zergs whining" when they arent they just want to keep the only unit that makes play not borring and have us lose 24/7, you should stop whining about how over powered the infestor is when its not. <3
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On November 21 2012 09:46 paradiset16 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 07:34 ACrow wrote:On November 21 2012 06:31 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 05:33 kyllinghest wrote:On November 21 2012 05:17 paradiset16 wrote:
All I heard in this interview is that Zerg op Zerg op Zerg op and that's bull crap the zerg isn't op I feel its under powered because of what other races can do and if other races weren't so dumb. And clump units together and make them fungal able of the mother ship neural situation not send their mother ship to the front of their army the mother ship has more range then neural and goes automatically and neural has a delay so all this crap about changing the infestor is bull crap for the first time scence the beta we have a unit that sustains equality between the game and Zerg players shouldn't be punished for finding out this unit that is what we need and have to use to win cause if you look at most games we do not use infestors we auto lose against death ball bio tank and the most bull shit composition mass air for Protoss with mother ship and storms is stead of looking at the Zerg and blaming the Zerg you should be look at Zerg players and loving them because unlike the other races the found a unit that is the best in their race and use it so instead of changeling them other races shouldn't be dumb asses and have their unit be fungalable because you should know Zerg is going infestors and if they aren't usually it's baneling lung muta so please stop just saying Zerg op Zerg op this needs to be changed no it doesn't need to be changed you need to change and play better If all the other races are so dumb, maybe you could enlighten us about how we can fight the infestor better? I think you would be surprised if you tried playing terran and protoss for a game or 20 each. On a different note I think some puctuation would do your text good! . . Ok the Amin thing that differs between races that makes other races dumb is that they don't have the mental stability to just figure out what to do when they have. The ability that the races have to Harrass and expand and just build an army is substantial to what Zerg can only do they can ONLY rather all in or expand and go to the late game they can't harass they can't lost a BASE!!!!! And still win what Terran can do : go marine murader drops with expos and building a good army of tanks and bio with vicking if you see Burt lords , and o shit doesn't Terran have a spell caster that can do emp and take away all energy from and spell caster o shit why don't they use this and then the bio and tanks and Vikings can't get fungled ooh look at that !!!!!!! And or right now Thor vicking is one o the best compositions you can do Protos: first thing wasn't the bwc finals 2 Protoss wow look at that and they don't need and thing the have the best units and they use them but don't use them to the fullest blink stalkers are the most bull shit unit every I never knew they were able to turn into immortals when they get blink and the do a shit ton of damage also if proposes are complaining about getting neural end and then vortex is gone don't be a dumb ass and send the mother ship to the front of your army they had more range than neural and it's a automatic spell no delay like neural And there you go and that's what you can do !!!!!!!!! : also Protoss can just have 8-12 hightemplar and mass storm any army will just melt and o look high Templar also has a spell that can actually kill infestors and and are better range than infestors so I don't know why you all complain and bitch I'm sick of hearing this bitching I don't want to be overly critical, but this and your last two posts were almost unreadable. Please use . and , and paragraphs, they are your friends <3 1st is dont care what you think i used an ipad to type all this not my regular keyboard. i had auto correct fucking me over every 2 seconds and just didnt care because this bull shit about all you people screaming over powered over powered is bull shit. back when zergs didnt have infestors we did this about the protos death ball and what to do and finaly we get a viable unit that can do what we need it do do and you dont even use them and you just want to get ride of them!!!!!
then don't expect anyone to take your posts seriously when it's a massive run on sentence with a bunch of "!!!!!!" randomly thrown in. calm down and wait until you have a keyboard you can use to organize well-constructed arguments.
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On November 21 2012 10:43 paradiset16 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 10:13 Consummate wrote:
Blizz really need to accompany Hydra buffs with the Infestor nerf, just for the sake of my sanity when it comes to reading Zerg whine.
It's unbelievable that people think "projectile fungal" is a ridiculous change. Fungal growth is currently an instant cast spell that just requires you to aim, and that group of enemies is essentially dead because of chain fungals, projectile fungals help mitigate the effectiveness of fungal and chain fungals, which is really what the game needs.
Also, people need to realise that infestors are a support unit, that means it isn't meant to be a front line attack unit that is massed like it currently is.
That is why a Hydra buff should be accompanied with the infestor nerf, if "drops" and "mass muta" are a problem, because neither should be solved by a support spellcaster.
It's unfathomable that fungal growth is a counter to every single unit in the game, and people think its fine as it is. you hate zergs whine i hate people like you whine about the infestor and how good it is and just because we use it you go on rampages awwww the infestor OP OP OP OP Op when it is not fungal growth isnt that good it is a viable spell but if you are truly a good player you should learn adapt and change you play style just as all zergs have and you have the ability to shut down all infestor use so i dont know why it needs a nerf it is the only good unit we have that is viable ling arent viable verse groups of marines muraders and the arent viable against mech and also roaches jut evaporate to tank fire its unbelivable so please if you want to stop hear "zergs whining" when they arent they just want to keep the only unit that makes play not borring and have us lose 24/7, you should stop whining about how over powered the infestor is when its not. <3
and now you're just outright being an asshole to people. please stop.
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Blizzard is listening to us <3 Much love
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On November 21 2012 11:20 Dontkillme wrote:
Blizzard is listening to us <3 Much love
Actually I think they've been ignoring us more than listening -- which is a good thing, considering the infestor would have been nerfed to oblivion months ago if they had. They deserve some credit too, I think.
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This is the best interview dustin browder has ever given. So much information, and seems much more open to making changes.
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On November 21 2012 11:09 TheDraken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 09:46 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 07:34 ACrow wrote:On November 21 2012 06:31 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 05:33 kyllinghest wrote:On November 21 2012 05:17 paradiset16 wrote:
All I heard in this interview is that Zerg op Zerg op Zerg op and that's bull crap the zerg isn't op I feel its under powered because of what other races can do and if other races weren't so dumb. And clump units together and make them fungal able of the mother ship neural situation not send their mother ship to the front of their army the mother ship has more range then neural and goes automatically and neural has a delay so all this crap about changing the infestor is bull crap for the first time scence the beta we have a unit that sustains equality between the game and Zerg players shouldn't be punished for finding out this unit that is what we need and have to use to win cause if you look at most games we do not use infestors we auto lose against death ball bio tank and the most bull shit composition mass air for Protoss with mother ship and storms is stead of looking at the Zerg and blaming the Zerg you should be look at Zerg players and loving them because unlike the other races the found a unit that is the best in their race and use it so instead of changeling them other races shouldn't be dumb asses and have their unit be fungalable because you should know Zerg is going infestors and if they aren't usually it's baneling lung muta so please stop just saying Zerg op Zerg op this needs to be changed no it doesn't need to be changed you need to change and play better If all the other races are so dumb, maybe you could enlighten us about how we can fight the infestor better? I think you would be surprised if you tried playing terran and protoss for a game or 20 each. On a different note I think some puctuation would do your text good! . . Ok the Amin thing that differs between races that makes other races dumb is that they don't have the mental stability to just figure out what to do when they have. The ability that the races have to Harrass and expand and just build an army is substantial to what Zerg can only do they can ONLY rather all in or expand and go to the late game they can't harass they can't lost a BASE!!!!! And still win what Terran can do : go marine murader drops with expos and building a good army of tanks and bio with vicking if you see Burt lords , and o shit doesn't Terran have a spell caster that can do emp and take away all energy from and spell caster o shit why don't they use this and then the bio and tanks and Vikings can't get fungled ooh look at that !!!!!!! And or right now Thor vicking is one o the best compositions you can do Protos: first thing wasn't the bwc finals 2 Protoss wow look at that and they don't need and thing the have the best units and they use them but don't use them to the fullest blink stalkers are the most bull shit unit every I never knew they were able to turn into immortals when they get blink and the do a shit ton of damage also if proposes are complaining about getting neural end and then vortex is gone don't be a dumb ass and send the mother ship to the front of your army they had more range than neural and it's a automatic spell no delay like neural And there you go and that's what you can do !!!!!!!!! : also Protoss can just have 8-12 hightemplar and mass storm any army will just melt and o look high Templar also has a spell that can actually kill infestors and and are better range than infestors so I don't know why you all complain and bitch I'm sick of hearing this bitching I don't want to be overly critical, but this and your last two posts were almost unreadable. Please use . and , and paragraphs, they are your friends <3 1st is dont care what you think i used an ipad to type all this not my regular keyboard. i had auto correct fucking me over every 2 seconds and just didnt care because this bull shit about all you people screaming over powered over powered is bull shit. back when zergs didnt have infestors we did this about the protos death ball and what to do and finaly we get a viable unit that can do what we need it do do and you dont even use them and you just want to get ride of them!!!!! then don't expect anyone to take your posts seriously when it's a massive run on sentence with a bunch of "!!!!!!" randomly thrown in. calm down and wait until you have a keyboard you can use to organize well-constructed arguments.
just be quite you are not the most gramatical and most intillectual human being on this earth with the most out scene and most well constructed sentences. i dont put and periods or any gramatical corrections in them cause i dont find them needed and people like you i dont need to care about my post cause you have no argumanet and or diffrences in what hapeneds in my posts. it not like o the great an all mighty draken reads my posts i must be famouse now so just go away you dont matter to my confersation
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On November 21 2012 11:11 TheDraken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 10:43 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 10:13 Consummate wrote:
Blizz really need to accompany Hydra buffs with the Infestor nerf, just for the sake of my sanity when it comes to reading Zerg whine.
It's unbelievable that people think "projectile fungal" is a ridiculous change. Fungal growth is currently an instant cast spell that just requires you to aim, and that group of enemies is essentially dead because of chain fungals, projectile fungals help mitigate the effectiveness of fungal and chain fungals, which is really what the game needs.
Also, people need to realise that infestors are a support unit, that means it isn't meant to be a front line attack unit that is massed like it currently is.
That is why a Hydra buff should be accompanied with the infestor nerf, if "drops" and "mass muta" are a problem, because neither should be solved by a support spellcaster.
It's unfathomable that fungal growth is a counter to every single unit in the game, and people think its fine as it is. you hate zergs whine i hate people like you whine about the infestor and how good it is and just because we use it you go on rampages awwww the infestor OP OP OP OP Op when it is not fungal growth isnt that good it is a viable spell but if you are truly a good player you should learn adapt and change you play style just as all zergs have and you have the ability to shut down all infestor use so i dont know why it needs a nerf it is the only good unit we have that is viable ling arent viable verse groups of marines muraders and the arent viable against mech and also roaches jut evaporate to tank fire its unbelivable so please if you want to stop hear "zergs whining" when they arent they just want to keep the only unit that makes play not borring and have us lose 24/7, you should stop whining about how over powered the infestor is when its not. <3 and now you're just outright being an asshole to people. please stop.
in this post im not being an all out ass hole im giving my opinion in what this person is say i have the right to and i will not stop posting on this crap that all protoses and terrans just scream zerg op zerg op like your self.
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Great interview. I love the new Blizzard. More open and honest. I still want them to say "In HotS we will change/remove fungal/forcefield/vortex/etc. to allow for more options for every matchup."
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On November 21 2012 04:32 CcFxCumstein wrote:
Doesn't look like Monk knows too much about whats happening in PvZ atm. Immortal sentry push is not really as good as he thinks. Watch GSL
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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On November 21 2012 08:18 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 08:11 avilo wrote:
I have no idea why there was so little Terran brought up in this interview considering the tourney they happen to be at has virtually no Terrans, and the last 8+ months of "statistics" + analyzing the metagame can prove 100% that there are huge balance issues for Terran the most of any race right now. I don't know how monk chose his questions. I'm guessing he's a  .  has been the dominating race from WOL launch until around May 2012. Even then, the imbalance wasn't really obvious until around/after September 2012. (Statisically anyways, since that's what you are talking about).
I choose them after conferring with a large variety of people. I talked to 1 high level T, 1 high level Z, and 2 high level Ps. I also talked with a large number of staff on TL, and in the end I spent 4 hours coming up with and compiling these specific questions. Ver specifically actually contributed about 9 questions, about 6 of which I used. I did ask him about why foreigner Terrans are doing poorly, why there are so few Terrans in WCS, and fungal in ZvT. I asked about why Terran doesn't have more units in HotS. I also asked about infestor/broodlord in TvZ, but unfortunately he only focused on ZvZ and I didn't push him on it. I'm not aware of any other really big/major specific issues in TvZ, so I honestly don't know what else I could have asked.
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On November 21 2012 11:33 paradiset16 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 11:11 TheDraken wrote:On November 21 2012 10:43 paradiset16 wrote:On November 21 2012 10:13 Consummate wrote:
Blizz really need to accompany Hydra buffs with the Infestor nerf, just for the sake of my sanity when it comes to reading Zerg whine.
It's unbelievable that people think "projectile fungal" is a ridiculous change. Fungal growth is currently an instant cast spell that just requires you to aim, and that group of enemies is essentially dead because of chain fungals, projectile fungals help mitigate the effectiveness of fungal and chain fungals, which is really what the game needs.
Also, people need to realise that infestors are a support unit, that means it isn't meant to be a front line attack unit that is massed like it currently is.
That is why a Hydra buff should be accompanied with the infestor nerf, if "drops" and "mass muta" are a problem, because neither should be solved by a support spellcaster.
It's unfathomable that fungal growth is a counter to every single unit in the game, and people think its fine as it is. you hate zergs whine i hate people like you whine about the infestor and how good it is and just because we use it you go on rampages awwww the infestor OP OP OP OP Op when it is not fungal growth isnt that good it is a viable spell but if you are truly a good player you should learn adapt and change you play style just as all zergs have and you have the ability to shut down all infestor use so i dont know why it needs a nerf it is the only good unit we have that is viable ling arent viable verse groups of marines muraders and the arent viable against mech and also roaches jut evaporate to tank fire its unbelivable so please if you want to stop hear "zergs whining" when they arent they just want to keep the only unit that makes play not borring and have us lose 24/7, you should stop whining about how over powered the infestor is when its not. <3 and now you're just outright being an asshole to people. please stop. in this post im not being an all out ass hole im giving my opinion in what this person is say i have the right to and i will not stop posting on this crap that all protoses and terrans just scream zerg op zerg op like your self.
I find it appalling that your first language is English, considering you're from USA. Regardless, your writing style is pejorative and demeans you further in the eyes of those who are reading. You only seem as intelligent as your diction.
Also, if the power of fungal growth and infested terran should not be abated, then perhaps you can show us the use of counters to these spells -- counters that are practical, bolstered by an actual replay.
Edit: Correction of diction.
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