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United States487 Posts
Axiom Pro-Team Maff
MONTHLY EXPENSES
Pro House rent: $1500
Food for 3 players: $600
Salaries (total): $1000 ($333/mo. each)
Plane Tickets: $1000 (that's $4000 per player per year, assume 3 events attended per year)
Hotels: $200
Total: $4300 / month
ONE-TIME EXPENSES
Uniforms: $500
Website: $2000
Logo + misc art: $1000
Social Media: free
Computers/ furniture: $2000
Housing Deposits: $2000
Total: $7500 / startup costs
so you need about $51,600 a year to payroll a 3 player travelling pro-team with a team house, and $7500 to get the ball rolling
for comparison, I have provided a breakdown of a non-teamhouse team, namely ROOT:
MONTHLY EXPENSES
Pro House rent: $0
Food for 3 players: $0
Salaries (total): $200 (dont 1 or 2 players get paid?)
Travel: $0
Total: $200 / month
ONE-TIME EXPENSES
Uniforms: $500
Website: $0
Logo + misc art: $0
Social Media: $0
Computers/ furniture: $0
Total: $500 / startup costs
As you can see, quite a bit of a difference. Forming an online team just requires a handful of good players and a graphic artist. Forming a team house and/or traveling requires a bit more.
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On November 21 2012 05:53 creamyturtle wrote:
Axiom Pro-Team Maff
MONTHLY EXPENSES
Pro House rent: $1500
Food for 3 players: $600
Salaries (total): $1000 ($333/mo. each)
Plane Tickets: $1000 (that's $4000 per player per year, assume 3 events attended per year)
Hotels: $200
Total: $4300 / month
ONE-TIME EXPENSES
Uniforms: $500
Website: $2000
Logo + misc art: $1000
Social Media: free
Computers/ furniture: $2000
Housing Deposits: $2000
Total: $7500 / startup costs
so you need about $51,600 a year to payroll a 3 player travelling pro-team with a team house, and $7500 to get the ball rolling
for comparison, I have provided a breakdown of a non-teamhouse team, namely ROOT:
MONTHLY EXPENSES
Pro House rent: $0
Food for 3 players: $0
Salaries (total): $200 (dont 1 or 2 players get paid?)
Travel: $0
Total: $200 / month
ONE-TIME EXPENSES
Uniforms: $500
Website: $0
Logo + misc art: $0
Social Media: $0
Computers/ furniture: $0
Total: $500 / startup costs
As you can see, quite a bit of a difference. Forming an online team just requires a handful of good players and a graphic artist. Forming a team house and/or traveling requires a bit more.
Interesting math but it's a little off. The biggest deal is the way SK handles it's rent system. It uses a JEONSE/CHONSEI system whereby the deposit is VERY large but must be returned in full after the lease ends. These usually last for 2 years. The system as I understand it is designed to allow property owners to take advantage of large lump sums they can invest during high interest periods in the economy. They make a profit on the investment then return the initial amount after the lease is over. Expect deposits for small houses to be more in the region of $20,000.
Also your salary number is way lowball
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United States487 Posts
On November 21 2012 07:35 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 05:53 creamyturtle wrote:
Axiom Pro-Team Maff
MONTHLY EXPENSES
Pro House rent: $1500
Food for 3 players: $600
Salaries (total): $1000 ($333/mo. each)
Plane Tickets: $1000 (that's $4000 per player per year, assume 3 events attended per year)
Hotels: $200
Total: $4300 / month
ONE-TIME EXPENSES
Uniforms: $500
Website: $2000
Logo + misc art: $1000
Social Media: free
Computers/ furniture: $2000
Housing Deposits: $2000
Total: $7500 / startup costs
so you need about $51,600 a year to payroll a 3 player travelling pro-team with a team house, and $7500 to get the ball rolling
for comparison, I have provided a breakdown of a non-teamhouse team, namely ROOT:
MONTHLY EXPENSES
Pro House rent: $0
Food for 3 players: $0
Salaries (total): $200 (dont 1 or 2 players get paid?)
Travel: $0
Total: $200 / month
ONE-TIME EXPENSES
Uniforms: $500
Website: $0
Logo + misc art: $0
Social Media: $0
Computers/ furniture: $0
Total: $500 / startup costs
As you can see, quite a bit of a difference. Forming an online team just requires a handful of good players and a graphic artist. Forming a team house and/or traveling requires a bit more. Interesting math but it's a little off. The biggest deal is the way SK handles it's rent system. It uses a JEONSE/CHONSEI system whereby the deposit is VERY large but must be returned in full after the lease ends. These usually last for 2 years. The system as I understand it is designed to allow property owners to take advantage of large lump sums they can invest during high interest periods in the economy. They make a profit on the investment then return the initial amount after the lease is over. Expect deposits for small houses to be more in the region of $20,000. Also your salary number is way lowball
That's pretty cool, I was reading on wikipedia about Jeonse. As a finance student it really sparked my interest... Jeonse basically turns real estate into a bond instrument, where the coupon payment is your rent payment. It sounds like a good deal for both parties rly
Props to you TB for having the guts to take on these financial risks for the sake of making your dream a reality. If something was ever the opposite of killing esports, its Axiom
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On November 21 2012 11:15 creamyturtle wrote:
That's pretty cool, I was reading on wikipedia about Jeonse. As a finance student it really sparked my interest... Jeonse basically turns real estate into a bond instrument, where the coupon payment is your rent payment. It sounds like a good deal for both parties rly
Props to you TB for having the guts to take on these financial risks for the sake of making your dream a reality. If something was ever the opposite of killing esports, its Axiom
Well, all I can say is, I'm gonna have to sell a hell of a lot of t-shirts to fund all this nonsense.
Thankfully that's exactly what I'm doing 
The Axiom Advantage.
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man...a lot of good players for Axiom ever since the SlayerS disband. Especially Ryung.
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I'm loving Axiom's line up so far :D
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So, when is Axiom getting a team tag for the forums. Gotta represent!
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With the signing of MMA and Cella to Acer, does it mean Axiom will be staying as a sponsoring role rather than build a possible GSTL line-up?
Azubu signed IntoTheRain as the coach for Violet, will Axiom be getting a Korean coach or is Miya taking on a player-coach position?
I seems like between Azubu, Axiom, and Acer there is a complete and competitive Korean pro team. Are there any plans to join forces to compete in the GSTL?
Congratulation on the success so far, I hope Miya shows the similar turnaround like Ryung.
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On November 22 2012 06:15 Cattlecruiser wrote:
With the signing of MMA and Cella to Acer, does it mean Axiom will be staying as a sponsoring role rather than build a possible GSTL line-up?
Azubu signed IntoTheRain as the coach for Violet, will Axiom be getting a Korean coach or is Miya taking on a player-coach position?
I seems like between Azubu, Axiom, and Acer there is a complete and competitive Korean pro team. Are there any plans to join forces to compete in the GSTL?
Congratulation on the success so far, I hope Miya shows the similar turnaround like Ryung.
Building a line-up for team leagues like the GSTL is such a big financial commitment that I don't see Axiom making right now. The additional exposure from team leagues might give them a little sponsorship boost, but I'm guessing not much. I would rather that Axiom focus on making its existing 3 players happy than expanding too quickly.
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On November 21 2012 12:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 11:15 creamyturtle wrote:
That's pretty cool, I was reading on wikipedia about Jeonse. As a finance student it really sparked my interest... Jeonse basically turns real estate into a bond instrument, where the coupon payment is your rent payment. It sounds like a good deal for both parties rly
Props to you TB for having the guts to take on these financial risks for the sake of making your dream a reality. If something was ever the opposite of killing esports, its Axiom Well, all I can say is, I'm gonna have to sell a hell of a lot of t-shirts to fund all this nonsense. Thankfully that's exactly what I'm doing The Axiom Advantage.
Actually the Axiom clothes look pretty sleek. When the team establishes itself a bit more and Ryung wins this GSL, I'm sure you could start getting some returns on your investment with some quality merchandise to sell to fans.
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Sweet. Loving watching this team grow, where's our Axiom forum tag, mods?!
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