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Sweetfrost
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden213 Posts
November 19 2012 13:46 GMT
#181
Congratulations to Miya!
Too bad he got knocked out of Code A thou. :/
Before practice, we ate Kimchi soup made my MMA. His cooking has made me so depressed that I think we may lose GSTL." -Miya
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#182
I am especially curious about the management style of Axiom relative to Slayers. It seems like Crank has been enjoying the team, but from an outside looking in it seems they have a macro-management style.All the best to the team and WP Miya
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 19 2012 16:57 GMT
#183
On November 19 2012 22:49 ThomasjServo wrote:
I am especially curious about the management style of Axiom relative to Slayers. It seems like Crank has been enjoying the team, but from an outside looking in it seems they have a macro-management style.All the best to the team and WP Miya


Our view is that it's our job as managers to facilitate for the players, make sure they get good flights, get them spots in tournaments and fix any problems they happen to have. It's also our job to make sure they get paid and attract new sponsors for the team.

As Genna pointed out however, players are independent contractors and under US law, you cannot micromanage an independent contractor. The only thing you can do is replace them with a different independent contractor if their work is not satisfactory. As a result and the obvious fact that we don't have the necessary game knowledge to assist with their practice, we leave it entirely up to the players. CranK already has experience in this because he ended up in an unofficial coaching role within SlayerS. The players know best as to what they need to practice and how long they should be practicing. We hope that our attitude towards the players and being available to them for any query whenever they need will encourage a desire to work hard for the team. That's the cornerstone of a successful team, igniting a desire to win for themselves and for the team and that willingness to practice really hard to make that happen. So far it's working out pretty well.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 19 2012 18:02 GMT
#184
On November 20 2012 01:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 22:49 ThomasjServo wrote:
I am especially curious about the management style of Axiom relative to Slayers. It seems like Crank has been enjoying the team, but from an outside looking in it seems they have a macro-management style.All the best to the team and WP Miya


Our view is that it's our job as managers to facilitate for the players, make sure they get good flights, get them spots in tournaments and fix any problems they happen to have. It's also our job to make sure they get paid and attract new sponsors for the team.

As Genna pointed out however, players are independent contractors and under US law, you cannot micromanage an independent contractor. The only thing you can do is replace them with a different independent contractor if their work is not satisfactory. As a result and the obvious fact that we don't have the necessary game knowledge to assist with their practice, we leave it entirely up to the players. CranK already has experience in this because he ended up in an unofficial coaching role within SlayerS. The players know best as to what they need to practice and how long they should be practicing. We hope that our attitude towards the players and being available to them for any query whenever they need will encourage a desire to work hard for the team. That's the cornerstone of a successful team, igniting a desire to win for themselves and for the team and that willingness to practice really hard to make that happen. So far it's working out pretty well.


Thanks for the response TB, I have been watching Axiom's development with a great deal of interest and this was very helpful. From the news we got, it always seemed like SlayerS management was involved at the smallest level at times, almost to a fault; whether or not that was the case, it was difficult to shake that feeling.

Having been a contractor I know that role all too well, I also understand the limitations it puts on you as management. From what you've said it sounds like an excellent, productive environment and I feel like Miya will do well in it. Best of luck to you and Genna with the Team, I look forward to more results and announcements regarding your roster.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 19 2012 18:04 GMT
#185
Damn TB, that's what I like to read.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
November 19 2012 20:09 GMT
#186
TB hella smart. I'm curious, why is Axiom focusing on Korean players specifically? Are they trying to setup a team house in SK?
Terran it up.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 19 2012 20:37 GMT
#187
On November 20 2012 05:09 creamyturtle wrote:
TB hella smart. I'm curious, why is Axiom focusing on Korean players specifically? Are they trying to setup a team house in SK?


We already have one, it's just not the size we want. We're actively working on finding one that's suited to our needs. We want to be able to give our players some space and privacy, not bunk them 4-6 to a room and since we're focusing on a small team looking for a maximum of 6 players, that is entirely attainable.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 21:00:07
November 19 2012 20:59 GMT
#188
On November 20 2012 05:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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On November 20 2012 05:09 creamyturtle wrote:
TB hella smart. I'm curious, why is Axiom focusing on Korean players specifically? Are they trying to setup a team house in SK?


We already have one, it's just not the size we want. We're actively working on finding one that's suited to our needs. We want to be able to give our players some space and privacy, not bunk them 4-6 to a room and since we're focusing on a small team looking for a maximum of 6 players, that is entirely attainable.

So sort of like what HerO, TLO, Jinro, SuperNoVa, and HuK have at the moment, I guess. Well, that sounds great, will certainly be a different experience for the former SlayerS players.

All the best with the development of the team! And next time you happen to cast in Berlin, I guess I really need to get you a currywurst then, hehe.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
November 19 2012 21:40 GMT
#189
After Slayers disbanded I was without a favorite SC2 team, so of course I really like what TB is doing with Axiom. You can't go wrong when the foundation of your team has so much experience in the GSL, GSTL and on a team like Slayers. TB says he wants 6 players, by the time they fill out that roster I'm expecting Axiom to be a top three foreign team.
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
November 20 2012 01:59 GMT
#190
First Protoss, then a Terran, and now a Zerg... well, seems like the fourth player will be a Protoss... and from SlayerS....
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creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
November 20 2012 02:48 GMT
#191
Hmm how many players does a team need to play in the GSTL ?
Terran it up.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 02:58:18
November 20 2012 02:57 GMT
#192
On November 20 2012 11:48 creamyturtle wrote:
Hmm how many players does a team need to play in the GSTL ?

you need 5 because it's a bo9. It's better to have a few more though so you can be a little more flexible in your choices. Fnatic played this season with just 5 players on their roster coming to the studio
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 20 2012 04:44 GMT
#193
On November 20 2012 10:59 MatiaasS ! wrote:
First Protoss, then a Terran, and now a Zerg... well, seems like the fourth player will be a Protoss... and from SlayerS....


We aren't specifically looking at ex-SlayerS. RyunG and CranK really wanted Miya because they believe he has a ton of potential and an excellent work ethic. I know what you're thinking, Alicia or Genius. We have no plans to make an offer to either of those players at this time. We're keeping a very close eye on the scene at the moment for further acquisitions when the team has more established sponsorship. Right now we have a good practice environment with one of each race and players that get along well with each other, which is a good start. Now we have to establish greater cashflow that isn't solely relying on my finances in order to further expand safely.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Guimsbla
Profile Joined November 2012
Taiwan25 Posts
November 20 2012 11:10 GMT
#194
On November 18 2012 15:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:


When Ryung destroys MKP, I have a feeling a few more sponsors will pay attention



Quoting This :D

This first game was awesome, hope to see more like this in the future !
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
November 20 2012 12:27 GMT
#195
I´m really curious about the money you need to put in running a team. Costs of housing and food in Seoul, common salaries etc.
I hope Axiom becomes a beacon of solid management and a caring environment after all those horror stories of foreign teams signing Koreans on and of. Getting a good reputation among Korean players is going to be so worth it, since most players will come to you first, if you become as attractive as Liquid and EG. Looks like you´re on good way there.
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
November 20 2012 14:41 GMT
#196
I remember watching Miya's stream a while ago. Really enjoyed it
Though, watch them pick up Yugioh and all of a sudden they really are Slayers Refuge Camp >_>
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 14:54:18
November 20 2012 14:53 GMT
#197
On November 20 2012 13:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 10:59 MatiaasS ! wrote:
First Protoss, then a Terran, and now a Zerg... well, seems like the fourth player will be a Protoss... and from SlayerS....

[...]
Now we have to establish greater cashflow that isn't solely relying on my finances in order to further expand safely.

I am moved. A newly built foreign team that exercises caution in the management of its resources? Have my internets, good sir.
feebas
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland268 Posts
November 20 2012 14:54 GMT
#198
gg gl Miya
paska peli
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
November 20 2012 18:03 GMT
#199
Looking good for Axiom. Cross fingers.
LiangHao
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 20 2012 18:16 GMT
#200
On November 20 2012 13:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 10:59 MatiaasS ! wrote:
First Protoss, then a Terran, and now a Zerg... well, seems like the fourth player will be a Protoss... and from SlayerS....


We aren't specifically looking at ex-SlayerS. RyunG and CranK really wanted Miya because they believe he has a ton of potential and an excellent work ethic. I know what you're thinking, Alicia or Genius. We have no plans to make an offer to either of those players at this time. We're keeping a very close eye on the scene at the moment for further acquisitions when the team has more established sponsorship. Right now we have a good practice environment with one of each race and players that get along well with each other, which is a good start. Now we have to establish greater cashflow that isn't solely relying on my finances in order to further expand safely.


Good stuff TB, sounds like you guys have a good game plan laid out. With Ryung making so deep into Code S, I'm sure you guys will find some stable sponsors.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
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