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guillotine and arkanoid, look really how to say, imbalanced for SC2 gameplay.
thats alot of highground for broods to fire from
On November 16 2012 06:32 Stress wrote:
This is awesome. For those of you worried about "bad ports", KeSPA isn't going to put an imbalanced map into a tournament, the teams will test them out and see how it goes.
I didnt follow BW until very recently, but it was my understanding that some BW maps were made to be Imbalanced for certain races, and it has always been like that
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They obviously heard about Gem League 2 and thought oh shit better remake Bifrost.
I .. uh you know some of these maps are really out there. But I want map makers to really push the limits of map design instead of making another version of Tal'darim Altar. So hey, this is great stuff!
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Wonder how those rampless main direct BW port maps are going to work.
Also nice to see that they're trying out some new stuff with their original SC2 maps. Just hope it works.
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On November 16 2012 06:39 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:35 KristofferAG wrote:On November 16 2012 06:33 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these. bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected. Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7 I've actually not heard anything about them changing the format. Bo5 could be very very short, though. Bo7 would be nice, at least. My guess would be Bo5, due to downsizing of teams and the fact that OGN sometimes has to broadcast 2 games in a row. Proleague was for the most part Bo5 anyways, and I don't think matches were too short
If they're going for two games in a row, I could understand a Bo5, but if it's only going to be a single game per broadcast, Bo5 would make very little sense. We're talking a 2-hour stream then.
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This is awesome, I love some of these maps. Will be good to see how this changes teh game.
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I think they will be for the first HotS starleagues, there's collapsable rocks at the CalDeum map. That'll be the perfect time for a completely new mappool and hopefully more creativity and less constraints for maps (looking at you, protoss)
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On November 16 2012 06:32 Stress wrote:
This is awesome. For those of you worried about "bad ports", KeSPA isn't going to put an imbalanced map into a tournament, the teams will test them out and see how it goes.
battle royale
tears of the protoss
plasma
baekmagoji
demons forest
DMZ
hmmmmmmmmm
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more maps = more variety = more fun to watch.
Love that Kespa is doing this.
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On November 16 2012 06:42 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:39 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:35 KristofferAG wrote:On November 16 2012 06:33 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these. bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected. Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7 I've actually not heard anything about them changing the format. Bo5 could be very very short, though. Bo7 would be nice, at least. My guess would be Bo5, due to downsizing of teams and the fact that OGN sometimes has to broadcast 2 games in a row. Proleague was for the most part Bo5 anyways, and I don't think matches were too short If they're going for two games in a row, I could understand a Bo5, but if it's only going to be a single game per broadcast, Bo5 would make very little sense. We're talking a 2-hour stream then.
............ 2 hours is short? Remember, this is gonna be on TV .. and it'll be live on a very regular basis. I think Bo7 will be too exhausting, for both the viewers and players.
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guillotine is my favorite
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On November 16 2012 06:27 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting. Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like. On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame. Precisely, which leads me to why? Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks? :p
I actually like that idea.
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On November 16 2012 06:44 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:42 KristofferAG wrote:On November 16 2012 06:39 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:35 KristofferAG wrote:On November 16 2012 06:33 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these. bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected. Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7 I've actually not heard anything about them changing the format. Bo5 could be very very short, though. Bo7 would be nice, at least. My guess would be Bo5, due to downsizing of teams and the fact that OGN sometimes has to broadcast 2 games in a row. Proleague was for the most part Bo5 anyways, and I don't think matches were too short If they're going for two games in a row, I could understand a Bo5, but if it's only going to be a single game per broadcast, Bo5 would make very little sense. We're talking a 2-hour stream then. ............ 2 hours is short? Remember, this is gonna be on TV .. and it'll be live on a very regular basis. I think Bo7 will be too exhausting, for both the viewers and players.
Well, 2 hours is short for me, but yeah, I can see how it would be considered enough for... a lot of other people. I'm just very used to very long streams.
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FUCK YEAH! KESPA showing how it's done.
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On November 16 2012 06:43 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:32 Stress wrote:
This is awesome. For those of you worried about "bad ports", KeSPA isn't going to put an imbalanced map into a tournament, the teams will test them out and see how it goes. battle royale tears of the protoss plasma baekmagoji demons forest DMZ hmmmmmmmmm
add Monty Hall and a bunch of island maps as well ^^
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I like this, however this will make one hell of a mess balance wise.
Currently the game is not balanced around the maps like it was in BW, it is balanced by Blizzard, which means if tournaments start to develop totally different maps, balance is gonna be up in the air unless one of the parts stop trying to balance the game.
I think this will cause a lot of problems, but it does get my interest, since I enjoy watching new strategies unfold.
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On November 16 2012 06:28 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting. Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like. On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame. Precisely, which leads me to why? sc2 is a different game, so it's perfect to try out old concepts to see if they work with a new game. If anything, it'll spice things up and help give map makers all around a new, fresh perspective on map design and balance. Remember, KeSPA players will be preparing for these maps for Proleague. These maps will be dissected to the very last detail o_o
That's the obvious answer and I don't even think it needs to be said. That's why I left it out.
Like the other guy said, "Let's throw shit at a wall and see what sticks!"
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Uh, I will try to trust the BW guys that seem to be very excited, but my first impression is that they look pretty bad for SC2...
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Hm BW maps ( or at least Kespa's ) are quite different, but it should be INTERESTING :D very different strats, and maybe mapmakers will learn some things (kespa and non kespa)
esports fighting
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Btw Kespa teams are gonna test these maps out and vote in maps that favor their overall racial lineup. =D
Like T1 or Khan with a strong protoss lineup will vote in maps that are protoss favorite.
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On November 16 2012 06:45 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 06:44 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:42 KristofferAG wrote:On November 16 2012 06:39 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:35 KristofferAG wrote:On November 16 2012 06:33 ArvickHero wrote:On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these. bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected. Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7 I've actually not heard anything about them changing the format. Bo5 could be very very short, though. Bo7 would be nice, at least. My guess would be Bo5, due to downsizing of teams and the fact that OGN sometimes has to broadcast 2 games in a row. Proleague was for the most part Bo5 anyways, and I don't think matches were too short If they're going for two games in a row, I could understand a Bo5, but if it's only going to be a single game per broadcast, Bo5 would make very little sense. We're talking a 2-hour stream then. ............ 2 hours is short? Remember, this is gonna be on TV .. and it'll be live on a very regular basis. I think Bo7 will be too exhausting, for both the viewers and players. Well, 2 hours is short for me, but yeah, I can see how it would be considered enough for... a lot of other people. I'm just very used to very long streams.
2 hours is a very long time to spend almost everyday watching something, the GSL can sometimes broadcast 4-5 hours, and its 4-6 days a week, every week, that in my opinion is far too much content over a short period of time, which is why I stopped watching a lot of GSL and only catch some if I have free time or my favorite players are playing.
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