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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#41
Definitely going to be interesting to see how these things work out. A lot of work will have to go down in remaking them though, it's not like they can be ported over and instantly work.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#42
On November 16 2012 06:20 MyFirstProbe wrote:
Woops, I see gold bases in there, let's see how that works out. The transistor map does look really cool though.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#43
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?

sc2 is a different game, so it's perfect to try out old concepts to see if they work with a new game. If anything, it'll spice things up and help give map makers all around a new, fresh perspective on map design and balance.

Remember, KeSPA players will be preparing for these maps for Proleague. These maps will be dissected to the very last detail o_o
Writerptrk
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 15 2012 21:29 GMT
#44
On November 16 2012 06:27 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?


Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks? :p


Not unlikely, and actually a pretty good idea. Something has to be done, anyway - why not this?
AdministratorBreak the chains
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
November 15 2012 21:30 GMT
#45
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 15 2012 21:30 GMT
#46
On November 16 2012 06:29 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:27 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?


Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks? :p


Not unlikely, and actually a pretty good idea. Something has to be done, anyway - why not this?

They're literally going to set up a room in their team houses just for throwing shit at walls.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
November 15 2012 21:32 GMT
#47
This is awesome. For those of you worried about "bad ports", KeSPA isn't going to put an imbalanced map into a tournament, the teams will test them out and see how it goes.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 15 2012 21:33 GMT
#48
On November 16 2012 06:30 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:29 Zealously wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:27 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?


Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks? :p


Not unlikely, and actually a pretty good idea. Something has to be done, anyway - why not this?

They're literally going to set up a room in their team houses just for throwing shit at walls.


Literally
AdministratorBreak the chains
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
November 15 2012 21:33 GMT
#49
needs more FIGHTING SPIRIT
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 15 2012 21:33 GMT
#50
On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these.

bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected.

Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7
Writerptrk
kaiser_byrnes
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada6 Posts
November 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#51
I see that they are 8m 2g. I also saw a lack of Xel'naga towers in the maps. I like the idea of a brand new map pool, very interested to see any balance changes that are made to these maps as they get played.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#52
On November 16 2012 06:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?

sc2 is a different game, so it's perfect to try out old concepts to see if they work with a new game. If anything, it'll spice things up and help give map makers all around a new, fresh perspective on map design and balance.

Remember, KeSPA players will be preparing for these maps for Proleague. These maps will be dissected to the very last detail o_o


Also, KeSPA is still trying to transition BW fans. What better way than picking maps with a RICH history and which have such an EMOTIONAL draw on spectators who witnessed UNBELIEVABLE battles on these same battlefields!!!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#53
On November 16 2012 06:33 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these.

bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected.

Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7

I've actually not heard anything about them changing the format. Bo5 could be very very short, though. Bo7 would be nice, at least.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 21:39:37
November 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#54
On November 16 2012 06:30 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:29 Zealously wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:27 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?


Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks? :p


Not unlikely, and actually a pretty good idea. Something has to be done, anyway - why not this?

They're literally going to set up a room in their team houses just for throwing shit at walls.

wow, explains the scat. kespa mapmakers are venturing into our LR threads and seeing what we think of their maps
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#55
On November 16 2012 06:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:30 KristofferAG wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:29 Zealously wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:27 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?


Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks? :p


Not unlikely, and actually a pretty good idea. Something has to be done, anyway - why not this?

They're literally going to set up a room in their team houses just for throwing shit at walls.

wow, explains the scat. kespa mapmakers are venturing into out LR threads and seeing what we think of their maps


they were met with some pretty shitty feedback

huehuehue
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
November 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#56
Bifrost is one of my all time favorite
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#57
On November 16 2012 06:35 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:33 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these.

bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected.

Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7

I've actually not heard anything about them changing the format. Bo5 could be very very short, though. Bo7 would be nice, at least.


Yeah hoping for bo7 too. Moar gaemz.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#58
On November 16 2012 06:38 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:35 opterown wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:30 KristofferAG wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:29 Zealously wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:27 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:25 StarStruck wrote:
I find the BW maps that they picked to be interesting.

Of those maps Bifrost is the only one I really like.

On November 16 2012 06:25 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:19 Terrix wrote:
Weren't these maps specifically designed for the racial imbalances in bw? I feel like they wouldn't just "port" over to sc2 so well... Maybe

all of the ported maps are so oldschool that they'd be horrificly imba in today's BW metagame.


Precisely, which leads me to why?


Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks? :p


Not unlikely, and actually a pretty good idea. Something has to be done, anyway - why not this?

They're literally going to set up a room in their team houses just for throwing shit at walls.

wow, explains the scat. kespa mapmakers are venturing into out LR threads and seeing what we think of their maps


they were met with some pretty shitty feedback

huehuehue

Just gonna go ahead and stop this before it becomes one of those crappy puntrains from reddit.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
November 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#59
Some of these new maps are going to fuck shit up so hard. I really hope they know what they're doing and don't implement some of them.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#60
On November 16 2012 06:35 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 06:33 ArvickHero wrote:
On November 16 2012 06:30 N.geNuity wrote:
kespa teams normally test new maps, wonder if they did the same process with these.

bnet's system is that you have to publish these maps before you can actually play them w/ other players, so the testing period will start now or very very soon I guess. Changes and maps being dropped are definitely to be expected.

Proleague will remain Bo5 am I correct? I think they'll just pick the 5 most balanced maps out of these 7

I've actually not heard anything about them changing the format. Bo5 could be very very short, though. Bo7 would be nice, at least.

My guess would be Bo5, due to downsizing of teams and the fact that OGN sometimes has to broadcast 2 games in a row. Proleague was for the most part Bo5 anyways, and I don't think matches were too short
Writerptrk
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