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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:19 Tsuki.eu wrote: Fungal projectile is a useless nerf, we dont need fungal to be harder to use. We need fungal to be less good vs everything (and IT also)... I think we absolutely need to make fungal harder to use. Zerg units in general aren't micro intensive enough. | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On November 12 2012 02:35 NKexquisite wrote: Yeah, he REALLY loves destructible rocks man.... When he was a kid he used to blow up piles of rocks with TNT for fun. One Christmas he got a video camera as a gift and he used it to record his rock destruction, then he'd watch the tape while eating his dinner. Sometimes he'd play it back in slow motion. | ||
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:18 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: That's not a complete rock paper scissors then... What's the counter to HT? Ghosts, the player that better controls his ghosts/High templar will win the micro war, clump all your ghosts/Ht and they get beaten by storm and Colossi/ emp. However spread out like any pro will do will result in the better controlled caster beating the other caster unit. | ||
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Gihi
384 Posts
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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Hier
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:37 Sc2Null wrote: It's honestly amazing how the infestor is suddenly Overpowered when zergs start winning and the infestor spell has been this way for months. But now all of a sudden it is a problem. Why is it amazing, the spell before was never used except by destiny and a few other players, people complained they were bad etc etc, then people realise how fking good infestors really are, and zergs start turning infestors into 90% of their army supply Infestors like HT's and Ghosts are support/casters, and should not make up the bulk of an army like they currently do, if a protoss or terran made casters in the ratios zergs do, they wouldn't be winning very much just incase ,this is not me balance whining this is just stating my view on how they should be balanced compared to other casters | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:37 Sc2Null wrote: It's honestly amazing how the infestor is suddenly Overpowered when zergs start winning and the infestor spell has been this way for months. But now all of a sudden it is a problem. There's nothing amazing about it, the queen buff gave way for a much stable early game which allowed zergs to get better economies and more infestors. You just have to realize that the infestor doesn't exist in a vacuum and changes to other units affect it as well. Not to mention that the metagame is always changing and revealing overpowered stuff that might have gone unnoticed. Blueflame hellions for example were considered completely balanced for over a year, until Slayers terrans completely dominated an MLG with them. | ||
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btd978
United States17 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:44 btd978 wrote: YES! this makes me really happy. Maybe muta ling will be buffed Why? This is absolutely unneeded. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10383 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:30 Dunmer wrote: Ghosts, the player that better controls his ghosts/High templar will win the micro war, clump all your ghosts/Ht and they get beaten by storm and Colossi/ emp. However spread out like any pro will do will result in the better controlled caster beating the other caster unit. that didn't address my post o.o you still don't have a complete rock paper scissors, instead HT/Colossus > Viking/Ghost, because HT > Viking, Viking > Colossi, and Colossi > Ghost or rather it would just be HT/Colossus > Viking, AKA you have nothing to deal with colossus | ||
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:44 btd978 wrote: YES! this makes me really happy. Maybe muta ling will be buffed which is much more fun to play and play against. why the heck would it need to be buffed. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: that didn't address my post o.o you still don't have a complete rock paper scissors, instead HT/Colossus > Viking/Ghost, because HT > Viking, Viking > Colossi, and Colossi > Ghost or rather it would just be HT/Colossus > Viking, AKA you have nothing to deal with colossus Rock paper scissors is terrible unit design. | ||
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19Nov1980
Dominican Republic31 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:13 rd wrote: Zerg doesn't need to attack you if you turtle behind high templar at a third -- or any strategy involving turtling behind a fast third. They'll happily start their 12 minute hive and proceed to roll you over in 4 minutes when broodlords pop. Difficult to take your fourth with a broodlord/infestor ball bearing down upon it. like i said, why not go even more ahead? since protoss know zerg will make a billion roaches why not make just the right amount of HT and the go straight into robo for inmortals? i think it will be a very tight timming but i guess, it can work | ||
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ErAsc2
Sweden256 Posts
 I have a feeling that if WCS has a ZvZ finals, changes are coming!! | ||
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: that didn't address my post o.o you still don't have a complete rock paper scissors, instead HT/Colossus > Viking/Ghost, because HT > Viking, Viking > Colossi, and Colossi > Ghost or rather it would just be HT/Colossus > Viking, AKA you have nothing to deal with colossus The only way HT come into play against vikings is if they are clumped, we have learned to split against fungal and should do the same against storm, if the vikings are split then as a terran storm away I'll just emp and snipe away and then use my bio to power through. So if a terran engages badly with his vikings but everything is on par then of course the vikings will die to storms and HT>vikings, but engage well and Ht won't be efficient against vikings and vikings are clearly>Colossi. Side note when you say HT/Colossi> viking, what do you have the Colossi in there for? Or did you mean to have viking/ghosts? | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
On November 12 2012 10:59 ErAsc2 wrote: Ok, for once in my life I'm going to root for all zergs I have a feeling that if WCS has a ZvZ finals, changes are coming!!If only life and leenock was in it  I wish fungal just didn't affect air unless its a bio unit But ofc I wouldn't know hard of a nerd that would be | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
I was thinking that making a fungal a projectile would be good and with short range. Making its range shorter than the range of marines would make it so that players would really have to burrow and sneak in and catch an opponent off-guard. Thus, it'd be more rewarding on the Zerg player and still force the opponent to always be on his toes with his army. Just my thoughts.  | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On November 12 2012 11:31 silent_owl wrote: THANK YOU, DUSTIN BROWDER! I was thinking that making a fungal a projectile would be good and with short range. Making its range shorter than the range of marines would make it so that players would really have to burrow and sneak in and catch an opponent off-guard. Thus, it'd be more rewarding on the Zerg player and still force the opponent to always be on his toes with his army. Just my thoughts. His name Rock. He doesn't like it when people call him Dustin. | ||
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