EPTI have seen patches that affect more than this damn expansion.
Two new interviews with David Kim (need translate) - Page 11
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
I have seen patches that affect more than this damn expansion. | ||
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Scila
Canada1849 Posts
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On November 07 2012 05:44 Bedrock wrote: Winning tournaments don't really give you a good representation of the balance either though. When they talk about PvZ endgame, not every game (maybe not even any) can reach that point. to that point, i think it's more relevant to list top 8 from all the major tournaments (not just the winners) to show that (although it may be an issue) how big is it (according to the numbers) ... please use only 3 months old data | ||
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MasterCynical
505 Posts
We are hoping to avoid directly nerfing Infestors. The reason being is that it is the core unit of late game zerg composition. We should be careful not to nerf infesotrs. However, we are willing to make other units to counter Infestors better. For instance, Protoss has Temepst to deal with BL-Infestors much more efficiently. As such, there will not be any direct nerfs on infestor. What this actually means: "We are too lazy to rebalance zerg if we nerf the core unit Infestor". | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
Same. Had beta for at least a month now and have still yet to even log in. Being a terran player, I just can't get excited about my "new" units (more like 1.5 new units, why does he even count the reaper??). That coupled with some of the retarded answers given, such as them not even considering touching the infestor really makes me have no desire to return to this game. edit: I'm so glad that they see the infestor as the CORE zerg unit. Meaning everything revolves around that unit, so much so that you can make 20+ in one game and actually be COST EFFICIENT! Try doing that with ghosts or templar... rofl | ||
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eleaf
526 Posts
Q: You just mentioned that zergs are not winning all the major high-end tournamentsand and the race distribution "is not that bad". However, in the incoming WCS, there are 15 zergs, 13 protoss and only 4 terrans. And we havnt seen any terrans grab champions from tournaments without the help from Korean terrrans. I'm a little confused about the proper race distribution. A: WTF is this question??? I SAID, the race distribution is not that bad. Do you understand me? DO YOU? Just to be clear, the race distribution is not that bad and how many times had I have to mention this: "Terran is fine". Please, just write this down: "Terran is fine". I have no idea why terran just cant qualify for WCS and any other tournaments, maybe they are busy playing LOL or something. It's not my fault. Now, delete this part from your interview and let's move on to next question, OR I will give you another patch that you have to build 2 supply depots before you building any Rax. See, Starcraft II is a totally different game from BW. And forget about flash, I'm the only GOD in this game. Oh, you dont have to write this down, but keep this in your mind. | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
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A.Alm
Sweden531 Posts
It's OBVIOUS that the infestors need to get nerfed and other zerg units need to get buffed. If zerg has a lot of infesters, they win. If they don't have any infestors, they're totally fucked. Something is obviously wrong with the game when zerg can make 40 infestors and it's actually really f*cking good. Imagine if terran made 40 ghosts, 4 battlecruisers and we're fucking unstoppable. Ghosts got nerfed when they we're massed, why do they not nerf infestors? "The winratio's are actually quite good." Yes, that's probobably true. When protoss/terran engages before broodlords, they have a big chance to win. When protoss/terran engages after broodlords, they're dead. You don't even have to watch the engamements, you KNOW who is going to win. Terran engages before protoss has templar/colossi comp, they win Terran engages after protoss has templar/colossi comp, they loose. I don't even know why they aren't seeing this. It's been like this for MONTHS. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 07 2012 05:56 A.Alm wrote: This is probably the worst answers to an interview i've ever read. It's OBVIOUS that the infestors need to get nerfed and other zerg units need to get buffed. If zerg has a lot of infesters, they win. If they don't have any infestors, they're totally fucked. Something is obviously wrong with the game when zerg can make 40 infestors and it's actually really f*cking good. Imagine if terran made 40 ghosts, 4 battlecruisers and we're fucking unstoppable. Ghosts got nerfed when they we're massed, why do they not nerf infestors? This is just one part of the game david kim has no fucking idea about. f*ck this game. Exactly. Fucking exactly. The point of the game shouldn't be "i'm going to mass as many of this fucking spell caster as possible." Not only is it stupid, but it's not like it's just limited to that. Fungal growth isn't just an OP spell, it's a stupid spell. It'd be one thing if it was JUST OP, like the base stats did a ridic amount of dmg. It's completely the fact that it roots and prevents other units from even attacking it in the first place. Even when ghosts were super powerful with snipe (nowhere near this situation), you could at least still ATTACK the ghosts or RUN from them. In this situation, you can do neither. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10131 Posts
I think i will like playing zergs and protoss, but terran "new" units aren't enough expansion material imho. About infestor/broodlord, they aren't going to change a single thing, they are more focused and interested on how HoTS develop, even if it is making every match up at WoL one-dimensional (which is bad game designer 101 even if it is balanced). I am a guy who only plays for fun, and watch for the same, and i still have fun, but i am not really "hyped" like i think we should be at this point when there's actually a beta and people can stream it. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On November 07 2012 05:46 Sea_Food wrote: Terran getting 1 unit. Terran getting 1 unit blizzard says that is ok. And its a mine. I have seen patches that affect more than this damn expansion. I think it's good. Terran has plenty of units, and always had more than the other races (especially zerg). | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 07 2012 05:56 A.Alm wrote: This is probably the worst answers to an interview i've ever read. It's OBVIOUS that the infestors need to get nerfed and other zerg units need to get buffed. If zerg has a lot of infesters, they win. If they don't have any infestors, they're totally fucked. Something is obviously wrong with the game when zerg can make 40 infestors and it's actually really f*cking good. Imagine if terran made 40 ghosts, 4 battlecruisers and we're fucking unstoppable. Ghosts got nerfed when they we're massed, why do they not nerf infestors? This is just one part of the game david kim and his crew has no f*cking clue about. f*ck this game. Because that is blizzard vision. Blizzard wants the game to be played as they plnned And if they originally wanted onfestor to be a massable unit then it shall be. Also if something that they did not intend becomes popular it must br nerfed immediatly because thats not their vision. Even if this would brake the balance. Like how they did with mech vs protoss (thor). | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10131 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:01 Pokebunny wrote: I think it's good. Terran has plenty of units, and always had more than the other races (especially zerg). Well, i am paying for an expansion, not a "ah no, you got enough already so you stay almost the same than before". | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
Terran will be in pretty bad situation if they don't add anything new. There are so many new threats from Protoss and Zerg. It's quite obvious that Terran's current arsenal cannot deal with them. | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:01 Pokebunny wrote: I think it's good. Terran has plenty of units, and always had more than the other races (especially zerg). Are you counting reapers and BCs as units? Because they are nutin but jokes. | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:01 Pokebunny wrote: I think it's good. Terran has plenty of units, and always had more than the other races (especially zerg). The new units are not the problem. They could give Terran 100 new units and it wouldn't matter as long as Terrans feel their late game sucks and Mech isn't viable vs Toss. Those issues need to be fixed. Maybe Blizzard will make adjustments to WOL units - but I doubt it. Although a Raven FIX that makes it more assessable and more useful vs late game Protoss could help a lot. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:01 Pokebunny wrote: I think it's good. Terran has plenty of units, and always had more than the other races (especially zerg). Protoss has 3 more units than Terran in total. | ||
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eanxiii
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
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SRBNikola
Serbia191 Posts
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