Crank and MMA's accounts regarding SlayerS - Page 59

On October 23 2012 13:05 stormtemplar wrote:


Your post may have started well, but it was derogatory and gave the impression that he was a negative influence. I disagree, and he seems to feel similarly.

On October 23 2012 13:25 geokilla wrote:

I think you need to have your ears checked... IU is miles better than them. Though I haven't heard Taeyeon and Jessica sing solo so take that with a grain of salt if you'd like. I admit, I'm not die hard kpop fan and I can't tell who is who either.

Man Shival must be having fun causing a storm here on TL....

On October 23 2012 13:17 storywriter wrote:
People keep saying that Crank promised Jessica that he would not seek another team. Where are they getting this from? Crank's claim is simply that he did not leave the team 'specifically' to seek out a foreign team. Also I think that's a crazy promise to expect Crank to keep anyway. If a foreign team offers you a place in their team for a salary, of course he's going to accept it.

On October 23 2012 13:27 storywriter wrote:

How much do you think Crank is being paid at the moment? I could probably earn three times what he's making by tutoring high school kids part time. Being a progamer, even on a foreign team, is not glamorous. Then again, progaming is all Crank and other progamers in his situation know so what choice did he have? I'm not defending Crank. He could have done many things differently. All I'm saying is please stop saying Crank screwed people over for money. There is hardly any money in progaming.

On October 23 2012 13:31 Ansinjunger wrote:
MMA's interview is now on esfiworld. There aren't many differences but it's worth a look, especially for that handsome shot in the black hoodie. His skin does look pretty good.

http://esfiworld.com/news/mma-i-do-not-want-people-misunderstand-me-through-distortion

On October 23 2012 13:21 Shival wrote:
Already have, maybe you should try some simple calculation and see how those numbers add up to "half of the posts in this thread". Nor do I see the value of stating post numbers, care to try conversations with sane arguments?

Also, please answer the previous questions if you feel up to it.

On October 23 2012 13:31 supernovamaniac wrote:
People are stating that Boxer can't be touched because of 'idol' status. Yet, Koreans are really quick to jump on these idols and bring them down if they did something wrong.

After reading the phonecall record, all I got was that CranK was rather acting inappropriate to his elders; something that is seen as 'uneducated' and 'immature' to Korean culture. Unless the elder screwed up completely (and in this case it wasn't because it seems there were huge misunderstandings left and right), you shouldn't raise your voice against elders (even if they did, it is still deemed 'not right' in most cases). CranK just disrespected someone who's older than him by only thinking about his own situation and raising his voice while talking with Jessica and crying while talking with Boxer. In addition, CranK seemed like he was not interested in meeting up with Jessica and Boxer in person to talk things out (except at the end), when Boxer was asking Crank numerous times 'let's meet up and settle it' and CranK just kept talking, ignoring Boxer's request till the very end.

I'm not saying Crank nor Boxer is right in this case. Rather, Crank's attitude has been an issue in that phone conversation, in my opinion. This only gives bad image of Crank and how Koreans view him (someone should translate those comments, they're really talking down on Crank, saying that he's really immature even after coming back from military).

On October 23 2012 13:27 storywriter wrote:

How much do you think Crank is being paid at the moment? I could probably earn three times what he's making by tutoring high school kids part time. Being a progamer, even on a foreign team, is not glamorous. Then again, progaming is all Crank and other progamers in his situation know so what choice did he have? I'm not defending Crank. He could have done many things differently. All I'm saying is please stop saying Crank screwed people over for money. There is hardly any money in progaming.

On October 23 2012 13:28 Shival wrote:


Thanks, I wish some certain other person would atleast be able to think of that.



"Questions"? Why are you trying to keep belittling me, but avoid responding to my questions. Something must itch somewhere.

If you've answered everything you're going to answer, may I ask you to please leave the thread because it adds nothing but personal attacks.

On October 23 2012 13:13 geokilla wrote:

That's Korea for you. Why do you think so many idol groups pop up? How many idol groups are actually successful based on talent? Look at SNSD. I wouldn't say they have talent in terms of singing compared to IU. SNSD got the looks. That's it.

On October 23 2012 13:33 pooMonger wrote:


Then you haven't thought about it long and hard enough. The value in stating your number of posts in this thread shows that you are far too invested in something you are not remotely related to. Even if you were some Slayers superfanboy, the time and effort you have put into being so disputatious, could it seriously be worth it?.

Don't get caught up on semantics when it's actually a quarter of your total posts, instead of half. That is still substantial and honestly you just need to step away from this thread and let the drama pass. Don't wear your heart on your sleeve for something that you are not involved with; it's unbecoming.

On October 23 2012 13:33 Jaaaaasper wrote:

Thanks for explaining the Korean view point on this.
Also boxer is being really classy in this, if he started jumping on crank and co in public it would go much worse for them no matter how good his argument was.

On October 23 2012 13:32 eScaper-tsunami wrote:


What else could he have done? He's 23 who served 2 yrs of military. Which probably means he hasn't completed university. And in this economy, and with very little job experience what else can he really do? He's injured and can't do manual labour work as well. I'm not belittling him, but if somebody is willing to pay him to do what he does best, I think he'd take it.