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Daelgar
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland25 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 13:55:43
November 01 2012 13:54 GMT
#1781
On November 01 2012 22:45 echobong wrote:
SaveHOTS is working thanks to Destiny and his rant


Wut? so what are you trying to say is that blizz made all of this changes in 2 weeks? Do you even know how developement works or your are just trolling.

Ppl were asking about clan support since ... well... WoL RELEASE ??? but hey guess what, Destiny is a savior thx to reddit and clueless ppl.
Oh, special tactics? You see, Its fine.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 14:01:56
November 01 2012 13:59 GMT
#1782
On October 18 2012 08:03 ChoiSulli wrote:
SCII isnt fun to watch. I will expand on this but it will probably turn out to be an incoherent emotionally fueld ramble that will lead to a ban.

I just wish that someoen would just force BW mechanics on SCII. I want to see if we would still see that fucking giant army move across the screen in 15 seconds and enter a guys base and destory his shit. Do you know what % of BW game reached 200/200 I would say less then 20%. It would happen in TVT because of how fucking hard it is to kill the other person. Yes Flash would also do his insane 200/200 mech push in TVP.

But you know how fucking magical that shit is in BW, its an art to see someoen control an entire army in BW and the best part was that you knew that nobody else could do it like him. In SCII man you move across the map in 15 sec on top of that u like instantly reinforce so obviously its 1 giant battle and GG. In BW even if you won a battle. You could ahve 4 control groups of MNM infront of the zergs natural and you couldnt touch them because of 2 lurkers and a defiler.

In BW to reinforce took fuckign time adn by the time u did and then advanced to the guys base he would be able to defend most of the time. In BW managing bases and territory was important, actual fucking strategy planning on securing crucial locations on the map. Like people dont seem to know this but BW was like constant fighting and almost never two maxed armies. It was just hard to control so youd have shit happening all over the map.

ZvP in BW was fuckign sexy constant engagements, trading armies, reinforcing. In BW you can fucking making zerglings vs toss in the late game and win. Or hydras. Or ultras. No units was off limits. In SCII ur forced to make the fucking gay units and in mass them. Has anyone ever massed guardians unless it was BGH??

I honestly can write pages and pages of shit I hate about SCII and I have watched SCII from the begining. At first because it was obviously new and I hoped it to be like BW. Also you had many community figures switch like Artosis, Day9 etc. LIke you see kids complain about commentary in SCII they cant enjoy it because of bad commentary. Isnt that the ultimate sign that hey maybe this shit isnt that fun to watch. BW was fun to watch and we had no english casters. I actually prefer to watch BW with kroean commentary. Cause you dont need to fucking have people make it exciting what you are seeing wiht your eyes is just that damn beautiful. There is fucking nothing in SCII that does that to me. No Flashes macro does not impress me. There is no muta micro that amazes me. There are no godly storms (lol). There is no insane bio control. I say all that because everything is easy to fucking copy. Yes flashes macro is still good but its so much easier to duplicate, he is selecting all the raxes fuckign holding down a key. I can duplicate in BW to if I use oblivion but then I dont feel good about myself and its not impressive to anyone. See what I ment by rambing.

To get back to why I do watch SCII. After the novelty of all the TL members switching left me, I watchedc casue there were all these new kids on TL talking about foreigners beating koreans. (im white) So I would just get pleasure out of seeing their heroes get raped, and reading their disapointing comments. i dont know if that makes me a dick or a bad person but thats just how I felt. Now I just watch cause of the Gom/Kespa rivlary and cause of the acutaly Kespa guys that I love. Cause all these guys tell me that BW B-teamers are better then BW A-teamers at SCII. So I just want to get to that point where they are all proven wrong. After that I will probably only stick around if Flash is raping the scene like in BW. Im passionate about starcraft and TL, but I honestly wish SCII had never come out, yes it allowed some people in our community to make a good living and im happy for them but it did nothing for me but ruin one of the joys of my life.


I was so pumped when muta micro was discovered fully. I would practice hardcore just to master this and yet I sucked doing it. But I always felt godly when I trashed opponents with my "successful muta micro". Oh and the good feeling when you are macroing like beast while having 4 base and when you use last larvas your minerals/gas is near 100 both (even near ~220 felt like super good). Getting late game vs terran/protoss and win was so huge boost of morale.

Oh how much I miss BW.

edit: random rant... I just hate when Artosis and Tasteless says BW as Starcraft 1. There was never one.
VPC
Profile Joined May 2010
United States135 Posts
November 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#1783
On November 01 2012 22:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 08:03 ChoiSulli wrote:
SCII isnt fun to watch. I will expand on this but it will probably turn out to be an incoherent emotionally fueld ramble that will lead to a ban.

I just wish that someoen would just force BW mechanics on SCII. I want to see if we would still see that fucking giant army move across the screen in 15 seconds and enter a guys base and destory his shit. Do you know what % of BW game reached 200/200 I would say less then 20%. It would happen in TVT because of how fucking hard it is to kill the other person. Yes Flash would also do his insane 200/200 mech push in TVP.

But you know how fucking magical that shit is in BW, its an art to see someoen control an entire army in BW and the best part was that you knew that nobody else could do it like him. In SCII man you move across the map in 15 sec on top of that u like instantly reinforce so obviously its 1 giant battle and GG. In BW even if you won a battle. You could ahve 4 control groups of MNM infront of the zergs natural and you couldnt touch them because of 2 lurkers and a defiler.

In BW to reinforce took fuckign time adn by the time u did and then advanced to the guys base he would be able to defend most of the time. In BW managing bases and territory was important, actual fucking strategy planning on securing crucial locations on the map. Like people dont seem to know this but BW was like constant fighting and almost never two maxed armies. It was just hard to control so youd have shit happening all over the map.

ZvP in BW was fuckign sexy constant engagements, trading armies, reinforcing. In BW you can fucking making zerglings vs toss in the late game and win. Or hydras. Or ultras. No units was off limits. In SCII ur forced to make the fucking gay units and in mass them. Has anyone ever massed guardians unless it was BGH??

I honestly can write pages and pages of shit I hate about SCII and I have watched SCII from the begining. At first because it was obviously new and I hoped it to be like BW. Also you had many community figures switch like Artosis, Day9 etc. LIke you see kids complain about commentary in SCII they cant enjoy it because of bad commentary. Isnt that the ultimate sign that hey maybe this shit isnt that fun to watch. BW was fun to watch and we had no english casters. I actually prefer to watch BW with kroean commentary. Cause you dont need to fucking have people make it exciting what you are seeing wiht your eyes is just that damn beautiful. There is fucking nothing in SCII that does that to me. No Flashes macro does not impress me. There is no muta micro that amazes me. There are no godly storms (lol). There is no insane bio control. I say all that because everything is easy to fucking copy. Yes flashes macro is still good but its so much easier to duplicate, he is selecting all the raxes fuckign holding down a key. I can duplicate in BW to if I use oblivion but then I dont feel good about myself and its not impressive to anyone. See what I ment by rambing.

To get back to why I do watch SCII. After the novelty of all the TL members switching left me, I watchedc casue there were all these new kids on TL talking about foreigners beating koreans. (im white) So I would just get pleasure out of seeing their heroes get raped, and reading their disapointing comments. i dont know if that makes me a dick or a bad person but thats just how I felt. Now I just watch cause of the Gom/Kespa rivlary and cause of the acutaly Kespa guys that I love. Cause all these guys tell me that BW B-teamers are better then BW A-teamers at SCII. So I just want to get to that point where they are all proven wrong. After that I will probably only stick around if Flash is raping the scene like in BW. Im passionate about starcraft and TL, but I honestly wish SCII had never come out, yes it allowed some people in our community to make a good living and im happy for them but it did nothing for me but ruin one of the joys of my life.


I was so pumped when muta micro was discovered fully. I would practice hardcore just to master this and yet I sucked doing it. But I always felt godly when I trashed opponents with my "successful muta micro". Oh and the good feeling when you are macroing like beast while having 4 base and when you use last larvas your minerals/gas is near 100 both (even near ~220 felt like super good). Getting late game vs terran/protoss and win was so huge boost of morale.

Oh how much I miss BW.

edit: random rant... I just hate when Artosis and Tasteless says BW as Starcraft 1. There was never one.


I didn't really watch to much BW online because I was hooked up in WC3, but I have to say that I totally agree. Allowing as many units to be assigned to one hotkey really takes an aspect out of the game that I think I would enjoy. I personally think I might be better at the game if this were the case. Build orders are important but a-moving seems to be just as effective after a certain point of the game has passed.
echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
November 01 2012 14:25 GMT
#1784
On November 01 2012 22:54 Daelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 22:45 echobong wrote:
SaveHOTS is working thanks to Destiny and his rant


Wut? so what are you trying to say is that blizz made all of this changes in 2 weeks? Do you even know how developement works or your are just trolling.

Ppl were asking about clan support since ... well... WoL RELEASE ??? but hey guess what, Destiny is a savior thx to reddit and clueless ppl.


Not saying he made the changes happen, but he lit a fire under their ass like Eminem did with the rap scene. Now Blitz is accountable to Destiny and his fans, or the D-Army as we like to call ourselves.
echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
November 01 2012 14:27 GMT
#1785
On November 01 2012 22:54 Daelgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 22:45 echobong wrote:
SaveHOTS is working thanks to Destiny and his rant


Wut? so what are you trying to say is that blizz made all of this changes in 2 weeks? Do you even know how developement works or your are just trolling.

Ppl were asking about clan support since ... well... WoL RELEASE ??? but hey guess what, Destiny is a savior thx to reddit and clueless ppl.


Not saying he made the changes happen, but he lit a fire under their ass like Eminem did with the rap scene. Now Blitz is accountable to Destiny and his fans, or the D-Army as we like to call ourselves.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
November 01 2012 14:28 GMT
#1786
On November 01 2012 23:25 echobong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 22:54 Daelgar wrote:
On November 01 2012 22:45 echobong wrote:
SaveHOTS is working thanks to Destiny and his rant


Wut? so what are you trying to say is that blizz made all of this changes in 2 weeks? Do you even know how developement works or your are just trolling.

Ppl were asking about clan support since ... well... WoL RELEASE ??? but hey guess what, Destiny is a savior thx to reddit and clueless ppl.


Not saying he made the changes happen, but he lit a fire under their ass like Eminem did with the rap scene. Now Blitz is accountable to Destiny and his fans, or the D-Army as we like to call ourselves.


Please tell me you're trolling.

Please....
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Daelgar
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland25 Posts
November 01 2012 14:38 GMT
#1787
On November 01 2012 23:27 echobong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 22:54 Daelgar wrote:
On November 01 2012 22:45 echobong wrote:
SaveHOTS is working thanks to Destiny and his rant


Wut? so what are you trying to say is that blizz made all of this changes in 2 weeks? Do you even know how developement works or your are just trolling.

Ppl were asking about clan support since ... well... WoL RELEASE ??? but hey guess what, Destiny is a savior thx to reddit and clueless ppl.


Not saying he made the changes happen, but he lit a fire under their ass like Eminem did with the rap scene. Now Blitz is accountable to Destiny and his fans, or the D-Army as we like to call ourselves.


I ... dont .. even ...

You know what, lets just leave it there. Aperently fanboism is dangerous and contagious so keep your distance.
Oh, special tactics? You see, Its fine.
HearthCraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States117 Posts
November 01 2012 14:41 GMT
#1788
lol Destiny "made these changes happen" gtfo. And blizzard doesn't need to polish its interface if you like startcraft play its if not don't there will be money to be made off starcraft 2. It is larger in the United States than it ever was with Starcraft and BW.
"It is the mark of an educated man to entertain a thought without accepting it."
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 14:56:36
November 01 2012 14:56 GMT
#1789
On November 01 2012 23:25 echobong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 22:54 Daelgar wrote:
On November 01 2012 22:45 echobong wrote:
SaveHOTS is working thanks to Destiny and his rant


Wut? so what are you trying to say is that blizz made all of this changes in 2 weeks? Do you even know how developement works or your are just trolling.

Ppl were asking about clan support since ... well... WoL RELEASE ??? but hey guess what, Destiny is a savior thx to reddit and clueless ppl.


Not saying he made the changes happen, but he lit a fire under their ass like Eminem did with the rap scene. Now Blitz is accountable to Destiny and his fans, or the D-Army as we like to call ourselves.


I'm pretty positive this is a troll, but you do realize Destiny has given up on SC2 despite these changes?

He's playing LoL full time now because he believes that despite these changes the scene will die and he can make more money in a flooded market where he has to learn a new game and has no foundation as a streamer.

To use your analogy it's like Eminem revolutionizing hip hop, declaring it a dead end, and then switching to indie rock because there's a bigger market for it.
echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
November 01 2012 14:56 GMT
#1790
On November 01 2012 23:41 rQvicious wrote:
lol Destiny "made these changes happen" gtfo. And blizzard doesn't need to polish its interface if you like startcraft play its if not don't there will be money to be made off starcraft 2. It is larger in the United States than it ever was with Starcraft and BW.


Not saying he 'made the changes happen', saying he freaked out very effectively to the point where Bliz couldn't be silent anymore. I agree Bliz was likely working on this stuff beforehand, but they are suddenly interacting with the community and all this stuff like never before. Destiny dropped his perfect rant at the right time and bliz had to show its hand and play ball like the rest of the esports developers. It just worked out well. Why deny that?
StickyIcky
Profile Joined September 2012
United States192 Posts
November 01 2012 15:01 GMT
#1791
Word up, the D-army is strong. Blizzard know what its like on streets now. DustinB knows whatup cause he got schooled by Des10E.

I used to find this thread irritating, now its just extremely entertaining. You made my day echobong!
Toilet paper is for pussies
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
November 01 2012 15:09 GMT
#1792
On November 01 2012 23:56 echobong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:41 rQvicious wrote:
lol Destiny "made these changes happen" gtfo. And blizzard doesn't need to polish its interface if you like startcraft play its if not don't there will be money to be made off starcraft 2. It is larger in the United States than it ever was with Starcraft and BW.


Not saying he 'made the changes happen', saying he freaked out very effectively to the point where Bliz couldn't be silent anymore. I agree Bliz was likely working on this stuff beforehand, but they are suddenly interacting with the community and all this stuff like never before. Destiny dropped his perfect rant at the right time and bliz had to show its hand and play ball like the rest of the esports developers. It just worked out well. Why deny that?


No they're not mate, I'm not sure how you can say that. They've always been pretty forthcoming with what they're working on. They told us about the 1.5 beta patch long before it was out and posted blogs similar to the ones we've seen for clan support and the other interface changes. They also announced most of what they're getting ready to release a long time ago. Sigaty told us in an interview that clan support and replay sharing specifically were coming even long before they even posted the blogs about these new features. I literally don't think anything Destiny did/said had any effect on Blizzard. They were already planning this stuff, they were already working on it, and they were already preparing to release it. I'm quite frankly glad Destiny has left the scene to play LoL. So tired of him getting credit for something he literally had no effect on.
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haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
November 01 2012 15:11 GMT
#1793
On November 01 2012 23:56 echobong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:41 rQvicious wrote:
lol Destiny "made these changes happen" gtfo. And blizzard doesn't need to polish its interface if you like startcraft play its if not don't there will be money to be made off starcraft 2. It is larger in the United States than it ever was with Starcraft and BW.


Not saying he 'made the changes happen', saying he freaked out very effectively to the point where Bliz couldn't be silent anymore. I agree Bliz was likely working on this stuff beforehand, but they are suddenly interacting with the community and all this stuff like never before. Destiny dropped his perfect rant at the right time and bliz had to show its hand and play ball like the rest of the esports developers. It just worked out well. Why deny that?


What worked lol? They're releasing information about HOTS on the battle.net site. What has changed? Except Destiny playing a different game.
Daelgar
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland25 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 15:17:29
November 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#1794
On November 01 2012 23:56 echobong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:41 rQvicious wrote:
lol Destiny "made these changes happen" gtfo. And blizzard doesn't need to polish its interface if you like startcraft play its if not don't there will be money to be made off starcraft 2. It is larger in the United States than it ever was with Starcraft and BW.


Not saying he 'made the changes happen', saying he freaked out very effectively to the point where Bliz couldn't be silent anymore. I agree Bliz was likely working on this stuff beforehand, but they are suddenly interacting with the community and all this stuff like never before. Destiny dropped his perfect rant at the right time and bliz had to show its hand and play ball like the rest of the esports developers. It just worked out well. Why deny that?


... my brain. Blizz is interacting with community couse they are realising HoTS? Thats what Beta is for? gathering feedback or im missing something.

Deny what? he made a rant like xxx amound of other ppl and guess what they were bitching about stuff that was already planned to be announced which make the whole rant just childish.

Oh and he is not playing sc2 anymore so whats your point?
Oh, special tactics? You see, Its fine.
acidfreak
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania352 Posts
November 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#1795
I was about to say I don't give half a cent about anything Destiny has to say but faced with the high quality post and high ammount of truth and honesty, I must say I agree with everything he said. My respect for him has increased by two orders of magnitude.
You can't out-think the swarm, you can't out-maneuver the swarm, and you certainly can't break the morale of the swarm.
StickyIcky
Profile Joined September 2012
United States192 Posts
November 01 2012 15:56 GMT
#1796
Acidfreak is joining the ranks of the D-army. Massive respect and big it up for da messiah Des10E. You know whats totally weird as well dude, the day before they removed the warhound i typed "warhound imba" in twitch chat. Coincidence? Don't be silly. Long live the D-army, long live Des10E.
Toilet paper is for pussies
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
November 01 2012 16:35 GMT
#1797
On November 01 2012 23:56 echobong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:41 rQvicious wrote:
lol Destiny "made these changes happen" gtfo. And blizzard doesn't need to polish its interface if you like startcraft play its if not don't there will be money to be made off starcraft 2. It is larger in the United States than it ever was with Starcraft and BW.


Not saying he 'made the changes happen', saying he freaked out very effectively to the point where Bliz couldn't be silent anymore. I agree Bliz was likely working on this stuff beforehand, but they are suddenly interacting with the community and all this stuff like never before. Destiny dropped his perfect rant at the right time and bliz had to show its hand and play ball like the rest of the esports developers. It just worked out well. Why deny that?


This isn't a good or even creative troll. If you're going to pretend, please make it entertaining for those of us who see through your transparent schtick. Thanks bud.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
November 01 2012 17:12 GMT
#1798
Destiny saved SC2.

His name should appear on the credits.

"But its just the price I pay

Destiny is calling me

Open up my eager eyes

I'm Mr Brightside"
jexxto
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 17:45:56
November 01 2012 17:45 GMT
#1799
Just wondering will destiny be removed from featured streamers list as he plays LoL exclusively now?

As far as I was aware TL is Starcraft / DotA focused.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 01 2012 17:51 GMT
#1800
This thread become more excellent since it has moved away from questionable rage based on a more questionable entitlement to become more focused around trolls and those with questionable grasps on reality. I am really enjoying the counter trolling, where people are claiming that Destiny saved HotS in the dumbest way possible, just to see if anything believes they could be that dumb.
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