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Dyme
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany523 Posts
October 13 2012 15:13 GMT
#1661
Scary how much power ShitRedditSays has over eSports.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
October 13 2012 15:13 GMT
#1662
As always, offense is being taken, not given...

I make jokes like that all the time, thank god I am not an e-sports "professional".

I will probably stop buying Steelseries products now because of this...

Reverse sponsor-calling incoming.
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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
October 13 2012 15:14 GMT
#1663
On October 13 2012 23:37 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:42 transcendent one wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:33 Djzapz wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:21 dreadchup wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:13 one-one-one wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:11 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"


I bet many of those who are "offended" are people who would laugh at the very same joke if made by a friend in private.



this could have been one of my jokes - and i AM a women xD

Hopefully you make your jokes in poor taste away from some of the people who may find them offensive. I personally am one to make really bad jokes too, but I make a valiant effort to keep it from my boss, and my mother.


a lot of people have a sense of humour like that. much more than you would think

I know a lot of people who went to med school. they had the most fucked up humour there. the doctors of the future. they used to play around with the preserved fetuses, and I could mention like a dozen even more disgusting jokes right off the top of my head. and guess what? one of them is an anesthesiologist, the other is a surgeon, the third is a neurologist now. those sickos save your mother and daughter and lover when they're ill.

these people (myself included) are far more intelligent and educated than all the dorks sending emails and know perfectly whats appropriate and what's not. and these are the intellecutal elite of the world. what you do is what matters, not what you joke about to your friend.

Well I agree. But also be realistic, this is a world with work ethics. If you're a public figure, everything you do can end up in front of your boss's eyes, and in front of your boss's boss. Doctors don't want to be joking about, for instance, killing a bitchy patient and no one will ever know - at least not in front of a patient.


the anesthesiologist guy once told a guy who was just falling unconscious "I will put my dick in your mouth" lol

ok that was a little bit sick, but we all laughed our asses off and of course he didn't do it lol

anyways what I'm trying to say is that these people know when they can do it and when they can't, but I'm quite liberal so to me these would be even acceptable all the time as long as they do their jobs right.

If, as a medical professional, you say that to a patient and the patient remembers and complains you get fired instantly. I don't get your point.
Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
October 13 2012 15:15 GMT
#1664
On October 14 2012 00:13 Dyme wrote:
Scary how much power ShitRedditSays has over eSports.


Even though this is true, making such immature and offensive jokes when you get a fucking 100k+ salary is just unacceptable.
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ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
October 13 2012 15:16 GMT
#1665
On October 14 2012 00:11 S_SienZ wrote:
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On October 14 2012 00:04 ohampatu wrote:
White Knights. Answer this:

Stephano: I may only be interested in Milfs and Kids Now. Please dont tell anyone.
------------------------------------------------

How do you defend that as a joke?

Interested =/= will fuck.

You can't persecute anybody just for having an interest / attraction.



Actually you can. As evidenced by the fact he is suspended and EG is still investigating. Its a bigger deal because in KR the age of consent can be so low. I dont think EG wants a famous sc2 player who likes kids in KR, because KR fangirls are crazy.

His first part could be construed as a joke, the 2nd, not so much. When the word milfs and little kids end up in the same ssentence, the only possible explanation is: he is meaning sex. I hope that pussy was worth
the aprox 10k he will miss out on making. Thats an expensive fucking hooker there.

I still want to know why he dislikes 18-25 year olds. They are the freaks
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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 15:19:00
October 13 2012 15:18 GMT
#1666
What people fail to grasp & realize is that pedophillia is no more of a ''choice'' then homosexuality is. No one chooses to be pedo or gay, they are born like that. Look it up if you don't believe me.


So why witch hunt when a person comes out and shows how he is? Everyone should be respected. Oh, and pedo =/= Child molestor...wake up people.
And why the fuck would their sponsors go crazy over it? Steelseries, I am dissapoint...
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
October 13 2012 15:20 GMT
#1667
On October 14 2012 00:13 Dyme wrote:
Scary how much power ShitRedditSays has over eSports.


Scary how much power shit Stephano says has over his career. Who would have thought saying controversial things could negatively affect your career? Usually it's just the low tier people who get held accountable for their words. (Orb, Destiny)
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
October 13 2012 15:20 GMT
#1668
On October 13 2012 23:41 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 22:46 diehilde wrote:
funny how most people just automatically assume it was a joke. From his wording it seems pretty clear it was serious. Why is it so hard to wrap your head around the fact that the SC player you like so much likes to fuck 14 year olds?? Honestly wtf do people expect... Most young men who get so good at a video game that they turn pro have some psychological issues in one way or another. Im impressed that sheep seem to have absorbed the glorified image of e-sports that is fed to them by the industry so much already.


Young men who are good video games have psychological issues? lol you have no idea what you're talking about and spout nothing but non-sense please have an iq above 50 before posting here.

Lol dude, I was in a sc2 proteam alongside goody and was practicing regularly with a bunch of pros so stfu pls, I think I know what Im talking about. Is it really that hard to believe that most ppl who opt to spend 10 hours+ a day on a video game have some psychological issues?
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 13 2012 15:20 GMT
#1669
On October 14 2012 00:16 ohampatu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 00:11 S_SienZ wrote:
On October 14 2012 00:04 ohampatu wrote:
White Knights. Answer this:

Stephano: I may only be interested in Milfs and Kids Now. Please dont tell anyone.
------------------------------------------------

How do you defend that as a joke?

Interested =/= will fuck.

You can't persecute anybody just for having an interest / attraction.



Actually you can. As evidenced by the fact he is suspended and EG is still investigating. Its a bigger deal because in KR the age of consent can be so low. I dont think EG wants a famous sc2 player who likes kids in KR, because KR fangirls are crazy.

His first part could be construed as a joke, the 2nd, not so much. When the word milfs and little kids end up in the same ssentence, the only possible explanation is: he is meaning sex. I hope that pussy was worth
the aprox 10k he will miss out on making. Thats an expensive fucking hooker there.

I still want to know why he dislikes 18-25 year olds. They are the freaks

That's internal discipline, which can be administered by any organisation for any trivial reason.

My point is that thought crime should not and rightfully isn't persecuted pretty much everywhere. Fuck, I'd probably be serving life imprisonment now for what has gone thru my head throughout my life. The line is usually when you actually do something about it, when you actually inflict harm upon someone with actions.
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
October 13 2012 15:21 GMT
#1670
Someone please close this thread before it devolves further.
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rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
October 13 2012 15:22 GMT
#1671
On October 14 2012 00:20 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:41 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:46 diehilde wrote:
funny how most people just automatically assume it was a joke. From his wording it seems pretty clear it was serious. Why is it so hard to wrap your head around the fact that the SC player you like so much likes to fuck 14 year olds?? Honestly wtf do people expect... Most young men who get so good at a video game that they turn pro have some psychological issues in one way or another. Im impressed that sheep seem to have absorbed the glorified image of e-sports that is fed to them by the industry so much already.


Young men who are good video games have psychological issues? lol you have no idea what you're talking about and spout nothing but non-sense please have an iq above 50 before posting here.

Lol dude, I was in a sc2 proteam alongside goody and was practicing regularly with a bunch of pros so stfu pls, I think I know what Im talking about. Is it really that hard to believe that most ppl who opt to spend 10 hours+ a day on a video game have some psychological issues?

Huge samplesize you have there.
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 13 2012 15:22 GMT
#1672
On October 14 2012 00:14 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:37 transcendent one wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:27 Djzapz wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:42 transcendent one wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:33 Djzapz wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:21 dreadchup wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:13 one-one-one wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:11 Shakattak wrote:
On October 13 2012 21:09 Sea_Food wrote:
Feminazis in charge of killing esports.

I don't think women are the only people who get offended at the "joke" of a 14 year old being "abused"


I bet many of those who are "offended" are people who would laugh at the very same joke if made by a friend in private.



this could have been one of my jokes - and i AM a women xD

Hopefully you make your jokes in poor taste away from some of the people who may find them offensive. I personally am one to make really bad jokes too, but I make a valiant effort to keep it from my boss, and my mother.


a lot of people have a sense of humour like that. much more than you would think

I know a lot of people who went to med school. they had the most fucked up humour there. the doctors of the future. they used to play around with the preserved fetuses, and I could mention like a dozen even more disgusting jokes right off the top of my head. and guess what? one of them is an anesthesiologist, the other is a surgeon, the third is a neurologist now. those sickos save your mother and daughter and lover when they're ill.

these people (myself included) are far more intelligent and educated than all the dorks sending emails and know perfectly whats appropriate and what's not. and these are the intellecutal elite of the world. what you do is what matters, not what you joke about to your friend.

Well I agree. But also be realistic, this is a world with work ethics. If you're a public figure, everything you do can end up in front of your boss's eyes, and in front of your boss's boss. Doctors don't want to be joking about, for instance, killing a bitchy patient and no one will ever know - at least not in front of a patient.


the anesthesiologist guy once told a guy who was just falling unconscious "I will put my dick in your mouth" lol

ok that was a little bit sick, but we all laughed our asses off and of course he didn't do it lol

anyways what I'm trying to say is that these people know when they can do it and when they can't, but I'm quite liberal so to me these would be even acceptable all the time as long as they do their jobs right.

If, as a medical professional, you say that to a patient and the patient remembers and complains you get fired instantly. I don't get your point.


not here you don't get fired if you have a resident contract

anyways maybe he knew the medication made it likely that the patient won't remember it or maybe he knew the patient enough.

the point is that guys with the weirdest sense of humour make the world move forward and somtimes they put down more on the teable than the witch hunters ever will. your deeds decide what kind of person you are, not the jokes told to a friend.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
October 13 2012 15:25 GMT
#1673
On October 14 2012 00:22 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 00:20 diehilde wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:41 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 13 2012 22:46 diehilde wrote:
funny how most people just automatically assume it was a joke. From his wording it seems pretty clear it was serious. Why is it so hard to wrap your head around the fact that the SC player you like so much likes to fuck 14 year olds?? Honestly wtf do people expect... Most young men who get so good at a video game that they turn pro have some psychological issues in one way or another. Im impressed that sheep seem to have absorbed the glorified image of e-sports that is fed to them by the industry so much already.


Young men who are good video games have psychological issues? lol you have no idea what you're talking about and spout nothing but non-sense please have an iq above 50 before posting here.

Lol dude, I was in a sc2 proteam alongside goody and was practicing regularly with a bunch of pros so stfu pls, I think I know what Im talking about. Is it really that hard to believe that most ppl who opt to spend 10 hours+ a day on a video game have some psychological issues?

Huge samplesize you have there.

And your samplesize is how large exactly? Samplesize doesnt matter, addiction is the keyword and you can bet your ass it has played a role in the career of tons of pros.
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
October 13 2012 15:25 GMT
#1674
On October 13 2012 23:33 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:28 Luepert wrote:
1. It was obviously meant in a sexual way. He said "I might only be interested in milfs and little kids now." This means "abuse" does not mean "beat in starcraft."
2. Nobody said it was rape, but it doesn't matter.
3. It may or may not have been a joke, either way it deserves suspension. Having sex with a minor is deserving of suspension and joking about having sex with a minor is worthy of suspension.

I just can't fathom how people can justify it.


You and all the other drama queens is the black sheep in this community. I cant fucking believe people like you exist


How about you calm down. I never made drama or even insulted anyone. You insulted me for stating several facts. If you are interested in explaining your position I am glad to hear it. However if you are only interested in insulting me and saying I'm bad for the community then you should examine the logic you are working with because I'm trying to be productive while you are simply insulting.
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
October 13 2012 15:27 GMT
#1675
On October 13 2012 23:54 Kasu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 23:50 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:45 Kasu wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:43 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:30 m0ck wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:24 Leru wrote:
On October 13 2012 23:21 m0ck wrote:
There is plenty of ambiguity, and plenty of room for people to read whatever they want into it.

Bling : you fcked a 14 y.o ?
Steph: 14 y.o.

That's ambiguous mate !
( Still I think it's a joke, but the guy with the ambiguity made me laugh out loud )

Yes, yes it is. At no point does Stephano himself indicate that that there has been a sexual relation. At most, his error is that he doesn't deny it. All we see is a conversation without time-stamps into which can be read a variety of meaning. You have one reading, but with the very limited knowledge we have of the situation, how can you even pretend to know what you're talking about?


I think your kinda of being blinded by the fact(I'm assuming) that Stephano is one of your favorite players. He basically did admit it with his statements.. In France consent age is 15.. so maybe he just figured it was close enough meaning.. like a senior college 22 year old wouldn't mind hooking up with a HS girl/boy that is 17 in the USA. My 2 cents there is a huge gap between a girl that is 14 year old mind and a 19 year old mind.

He admitted it if you assume he was serious.
There is no evidence that he was serious.
There is his statement and several contextual clues, plus the fact that he hasn't been arrested, to indicate that he was joking.

You're condemning him with no fucking evidence at all.


I think your being pretty naive.

And you're violating the core tenet of every fucking justice system in condemning a man without evidence or fair trial.

Also, "requiring proof to accuse someone of pedophilia" is not the same as naive. You aren't some special wordly intellectual just because you got up on your white fucking horse. Your entire post was BASED ON "maybe he just figured it was ok". You're ACTIVELY INVENTING SCENARIOS TO SUIT YOUR VIEW and you call me naive?


You don't know what pedophilia is do you? It's people who have a exclusive interest children who are 13 year old or younger age. Basically they know their dick ain't big enough to pleasure a grown ass woman syndrome bro

Now am I accusing Stephano of a crime? Nope, you know why even though in my own personal opinion and personal experience almost all the guys I know have at one time or another broken this "Law" from the girl being their girlfriend or a girl having a one night stand with a older guy.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 15:28:04
October 13 2012 15:27 GMT
#1676
On October 14 2012 00:06 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 00:02 scypio wrote:
You truly disgust me, just like the Stephano's little "jokes". There is a lot of people who have moral standards that go further than "don't kill esports".


and 99% of them are hypocrites. the 1% left is a saint who will have a sad and lonely life in this world.

I on the other hand are 100% aware of my flaws and don't pretend to be something I'm not, while still respecting the rules of the world, having a good time and tolerating much more than the likes of you.


Yeah, and in SC2 you can be either low bronze or top GM, there is no middle ground, right? Uhm, not really - the same goes for one's sense of morality, there is 1% saints and there are people who are not that good and (sometimes) are trying to improve.

The whole e-sports industry is a mix of sports-like skills and entertainment. Stephano is great in terms of skill but his attitude will not grant him universal acclaim. In fact, he just dug deeper into his ugly little hole. It is understandable that EG is not delighted with this.
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Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
October 13 2012 15:28 GMT
#1677
A whole month, wow I bet he can't sleep at night now.
Keitos
Profile Joined July 2011
France9 Posts
October 13 2012 15:33 GMT
#1678
Suspended because of a bad joke in a private message to a friend...

The important words here are "joke" and "private".
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
October 13 2012 15:35 GMT
#1679
On October 14 2012 00:33 Keitos wrote:
Suspended because of a bad joke in a private message to a friend...

The important words here are "joke" and "private".


It was on stream to thousands of people, that's not really private.
Also it being a joke doesn't necessarily make it ok. There are plenty of unacceptable jokes.

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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 13 2012 15:35 GMT
#1680
On October 13 2012 23:54 TheKefka wrote:
Not sure why everyone is witch hunting Stephano.
Don't you ask yourself why these people are on a loaded team like EG in the first place?
Huk joined EG because Liquid couldn't keep up with Huks blow consumption anymore.
It got so bad his internal nick name became Noo Noo.You think EG offered CatZ a contract because he is a good player?LOL
It's because it would be cheaper to ship cocaine to Huk directly from Peru than buying from a middle man.
Incontrol wouldn't even sign his contract until EG made sure there were at least 5 different burger joints in a 2 mile radius of the team house.Dude cleans up White Castle faster than an army of Harolds & Kumars.
Puma goes through more skin care products in a week than the whole cast of desperate housewives do in a season.
Demuslims sole life is a huge expense.Dude is black listed at every health insurance company in the US.Last guy that managed to accomplish that was Evel Knievel.They were thinking of putting him in a sterile plastic ball but playing starcraft in it proved to be too much of a challenge.
You really think those pictures and videos of IdrA smiling is actually him?It's fucking Machine.His only purpose on EG is to serve as IdrAs PR doppelganger.
JYP got recruited just so Puma wouldn't come off as a token when they all travel together and LzGamer/Suppy serve as tax dummies so EG could explain the huge budget whole,made by Huks little hobby,to the IRS.
Lord knows how Thorzaine fits in with all of this,wouldn't be surprised if he clubs baby seals in his leisure time.
Last time I tried to check up on the background of Scoots,2 black cars were parked in my street for 2 months until I dropped it and my dog went missing.Only thing I could find is that the last name he used was Roger 'Verbal' Kint.

So Stephano likes milfs and 14 year olds.I don't think anyone on EG is in a position where they can point fingers at each other.


This made me laugh.

It's sad when someone misses the fact that it's supposed to be a joke like the guy right above. -_-
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