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patronage
Profile Joined October 2011
Iraq123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 14:04:36
September 01 2012 14:04 GMT
#381
Group E.

wow, that is going to be epic.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
September 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#382
God damn... Poor Jaedong.... Errr I mean pooor rest of Jaedong's group??
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 01 2012 14:06 GMT
#383
On September 01 2012 22:42 Alryk wrote:
Naniwa and squirtle SHOULD it out of that group fine.


I disagree, I think Naniwa's in a lot of trouble. Say he beats heart (which he should) and squirtle beats Sniper. Odds are that Sniper makes it to the final match and so if Naniwa can't beat squirtle in pvp then he probably won't make it. Given that Squirtle holds the ELO record for best PvP in the world, that won't be all that easy.
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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
September 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#384
Ok well lets look at who the champion and runner up (Seed & MC) could have chosen:

[image loading]

The champion, Seed gets the first pick. Seed's strongest matchup is also PvZ at 64%, compared to his 56% against Terran and 48% against Protoss. Out of the zergs there is Suhosin, Life and Jaedong. Life is clearly the best Zerg out of these 3, and Jaedong is a bit of a wild card because he is training in two games, yet can potentially become very good if he focuses on SC2. Furthermore, there is not as much research material on JD because of his lack of games available to study. That leaves Suhosin who was clearly the weakest player in this list - barely scraping through Up and Downs yesterday thanks to Shine's win.

This brings us to the runner up, MC. MC's strongest matchup is PvP at 65%, compared to 61% PvZ and 58% PvT. Out of the protoss he could have picked, there was Sun and Mana. Sun has been looking extremely strong lately in the OSL and WCS Korea, so that would be a silly choice. Mana would be a good choice, however PvP has always been a coinflip and would be considered dangerous. That left his second best matchup, PvZ. With Suhosin already picked, that left Jaedong and Life. Again Jaedong is a bit of a wild card, but I bet that MC was banking on the fact that JD isn't as experienced, as well as the glory of beating a broodwar legend.

All in all, the 2 choices were both reasonable. Looking at the Terrans in tier 4 for a sec, Bomber is looking like he is picking up his pace again, so that would be a bad choice. Heart isn't bad and many of the iM players are saying that Yoda is on fire lately. But the most obvious thing is that both Seed and MC prefer other match ups over Terran.
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Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
September 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#385
Hory shit! All groups are stacked

Foreigners will be most interested in seeing JD, Naniwa and Mana and hope they all advance, but they are all in hard groups
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DaPhoToss
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada14 Posts
September 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#386
Group E isn't THAT hard tbh. MMA has been doing terrible for awhile now, MVP isn't the God he once was, Mana is pretty good but I don't think he is code S level yet, Taeja is a clear favourite to take this. I still believe he is the best player in the world.
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
September 01 2012 14:08 GMT
#387
MOON SUNG WON!!
Go MMA!!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 01 2012 14:09 GMT
#388
MMA vs MVP again huh? That's insane
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
September 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#389
Code S is so sick these days. Really can't wait for them to get started.
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
September 01 2012 14:18 GMT
#390
How come Flash is not in, if JD got an invite to code S?
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 01 2012 14:20 GMT
#391
Poor Mana, i mean come on o0.
JD will have a hard time to, but sick groups overall actualy, high quality of play in all.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
September 01 2012 14:22 GMT
#392
On September 01 2012 23:18 HowardRoark wrote:
How come Flash is not in, if JD got an invite to code S?


based on PL rankings and flash had not the best results yet
MauliSchaumi
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany21 Posts
September 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#393
I think a newcommer will win that season!
ZeBigMarn
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia30 Posts
September 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#394
Toughest decision to decide which is group of death!! So many good games, makes me glad the time zone is awesome for Australian viewers!!
More GG More Skill
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
September 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#395
jeeeeeeezeeee. Group C and E T.T
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Kogan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany84 Posts
September 01 2012 14:30 GMT
#396
I'm so sad :'( jaedong marineking and mc in one one group...i want them all to advance
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
September 01 2012 14:34 GMT
#397
On September 01 2012 23:30 Kogan wrote:
I'm so sad :'( jaedong marineking and mc in one one group...i want them all to advance

at least one of them WILL advance better way of looking at it
This is our town, scrub
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 01 2012 14:37 GMT
#398
This is an insane GSL! Can't wait for these games to get started.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
September 01 2012 14:41 GMT
#399
On September 01 2012 23:02 bosnia wrote:
thought mma wasnt in slayers anymore?

you're thinking of boxer =/
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
September 01 2012 14:41 GMT
#400
On September 01 2012 23:07 Incomplet wrote:
Ok well lets look at who the champion and runner up (Seed & MC) could have chosen:

[image loading]

The champion, Seed gets the first pick. Seed's strongest matchup is also PvZ at 64%, compared to his 56% against Terran and 48% against Protoss. Out of the zergs there is Suhosin, Life and Jaedong. Life is clearly the best Zerg out of these 3, and Jaedong is a bit of a wild card because he is training in two games, yet can potentially become very good if he focuses on SC2. Furthermore, there is not as much research material on JD because of his lack of games available to study. That leaves Suhosin who was clearly the weakest player in this list - barely scraping through Up and Downs yesterday thanks to Shine's win.

This brings us to the runner up, MC. MC's strongest matchup is PvP at 65%, compared to 61% PvZ and 58% PvT. Out of the protoss he could have picked, there was Sun and Mana. Sun has been looking extremely strong lately in the OSL and WCS Korea, so that would be a silly choice. Mana would be a good choice, however PvP has always been a coinflip and would be considered dangerous. That left his second best matchup, PvZ. With Suhosin already picked, that left Jaedong and Life. Again Jaedong is a bit of a wild card, but I bet that MC was banking on the fact that JD isn't as experienced, as well as the glory of beating a broodwar legend.

All in all, the 2 choices were both reasonable. Looking at the Terrans in tier 4 for a sec, Bomber is looking like he is picking up his pace again, so that would be a bad choice. Heart isn't bad and many of the iM players are saying that Yoda is on fire lately. But the most obvious thing is that both Seed and MC prefer other match ups over Terran.


Also, JD had been practicing a bit with MC. MC probably did pretty well against him in practice to pick him here. I haven't seen all of JD's SC2 ZvP, but in the games I can remember, he looked weak at it.
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