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AceLight
New Zealand220 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SwYXc.png) HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTT MMA,MVP, TaeJa all in one group. JaeDong, MC and MKP in one group. SICKEST NERD CHILLS~ Also, fun fact, statistically PvT is MaNa's best matchup, with a 62% win rate. Lets see how that comes out against the best in the world~ Also, methinks this is the new GSL map. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355867 
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
POLL: Poll: Group of Death?? Group E (1753) Group C (375) Group H (146) Group A (92) Group F (22) Group B (21) Group D (19) Group G (15) 2443 total votes Your vote: Group of Death?? (Vote): Group A These groups are insane methinks. | ||
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Ktk
Korea (South)753 Posts
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CuteZergling
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warcralft
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
Personally excited for group E | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
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Ezaura_au
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
also group E wow | ||
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DougJDempsey
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TheAmazombie
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Falconblade
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forsooth
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
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AceLight
New Zealand220 Posts
On September 01 2012 15:59 TheAmazombie wrote: POLL: Poll: Group of Death?? Group E (1753) Group C (375) Group H (146) Group A (92) Group F (22) Group B (21) Group D (19) Group G (15) 2443 total votes Your vote: Group of Death?? (Vote): Group A Ty, updated pic into OP. | ||
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Jlei
97 Posts
Mana gets like the 3 hardest Terrans possible. Good luck! | ||
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vanhio
Niue1017 Posts
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desarrisc
Canada226 Posts
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Jlei
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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MeLo
Australia192 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
Edit: They also released the map pool, what is Abyssal City? | ||
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sitromit
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
Jaedong if you come out of this group, you are a fucking boss. On the bright side, he's facing a lot of tough opponents which should help him get better quicker than other KESPA guys. | ||
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mayneeahk
Canada279 Posts
Group A: Seed, Leenock Group B: Ryung, HerO Group C: MC, Jaedong Group D: Byun, Genius Group E: MMA, MVP Group F: Naniwa, Squirtle Group G: Life, Supernova Group H: DRG, Bomber This GSL is stucking facked | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
MVP VS MMA IS COMING FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE DECEMBER 2011 sorry for the caps but THAT IS SO EXCITING | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
NP, I was in the process of making the thread when yours came up, so I thought I would help. =) | ||
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babylon
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
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ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
But his chances of advancing aren't too bad I guess. MMA isn't dominant anymore and MVP's TvP has been losing a lot lately. Getting through Taeja will be a problem though. Good luck though Mana! | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
Nani actually got a really good group IMO, I'd imagine he should get through no problem. | ||
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
 Every group seems so stacked though :/ | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
GSL really likes the whole MMA vs MVP matchup... | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
A: Parting and Seed B: ryung and Hero C: MC and Curious D: Rain and Byun E: TaeJa and Mana F: Sniper and Squirtle G: Life and Supernova H: DRG and Polt By my predictions - 7 Protoss, 5 Terran, and 4 Zerg in ro16. What I really want to know is will anybody from the swarm, not named Park Soo Ho, actually make it to the ro4 for the first time this year? Edit: Bold predictions: NesTea and Mvp go 0-2 in ro32 and there is another PvP final (please god i hope im wrong) | ||
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Sub40APM
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ramask2
Thailand1024 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
Group A: Seed and Leenock Group B: Ryung and Hero Group C: MC and MarineKing (If MKP plays well, if he plays like he did in OSL, then I will go with JD.) Group D: Byun and Genius Group E: Taeja and MVP (Although I am rooting for Mana!) Group F: Nani and Squirtle. Group G: NesTea and SuperNova Group H: DRG and GuMiHo. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17664 Posts
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Ghoststrikes
Canada1356 Posts
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SuperPro
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img.gomtv.net/userimg/0000/0736/63736.jpg) | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
Group B: Symbol Yoda Group C: MC JD (marineking vs 2 zergs >.> he'll find a way to lose like in OSL even if he gets to face MC) Group D: Byun Rain Group E: TaeJa MMA Group F: Squirtle Sniper Group G: Supernova Life Group H: DRG | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:12 Dodgin wrote: Also, Atlantis Spaceship finally removed from the map pool thank god. Im really surprised that Daybreak and Antiga survived honestly. Daybreak because its been so long and Antiga just because its a bad map. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:14 Adreme wrote: Im really surprised that Daybreak and Antiga survived honestly. Daybreak because its been so long and Antiga just because its a bad map. They are better balanced maps than Atlantis Spacebear according to TLPD | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:12 Dodgin wrote: Also, Atlantis Spaceship finally removed from the map pool thank god. Metropolis also died. Zerg got map buffed. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
First Flash now Jaedong. If only Bisu can get good as SC2. MC would have caught them all. | ||
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:02 Jlei wrote: And of course MC picks Jaedong. And Seed picks Line. Least surprising development ever. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
GSL; " Blizzard won't nerf Zerg? We take away Zerg map keke " | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:15 Shellshock1122 wrote: It was a better balanced map than Atlantis Spacebear Oh Daybreak is terrifically balanced map (outside of some PvT issues) but I mean its just been around for so long that I figured maybe they would finally retire it. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:16 Adreme wrote: Oh Daybreak is terrifically balanced map (outside of some PvT issues) but I mean its just been around for so long that I figured maybe they would finally retire it. Maybe. I'm curious why they haven't added in muspelheim (spelling?) that one map in the GSTL pool. I hope abyssal whatever works out | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
Seed clearly showing that he knows to pick the weakest and MC showing he hasnt learned his lesson since the MVP incident. | ||
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:17 Adreme wrote: Seed clearly showing that he knows to pick the weakest and MC showing he hasnt learned his lesson since the MVP incident. MC's strongest MU is PvZ. He could have either picked Jaedong or Life. ...He made the right choice. | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:16 Shellshock1122 wrote: Maybe. I'm curious why they haven't added in muspelheim (spelling?) that one map in the GSTL pool. I hope abyssal whatever works out Maybe there was some imbalance that the pro's figured out in practice that never really got to manifest itself since itw as only really used as a GSTL map. On topic of Abyssal Caverns does anyone actually have an image of it yet cause I dont think Im familiar with it? | ||
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ch33psh33p
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
win + win - <3 Jaedong one of the few Kespa players I really really want to see go far. Don't think he can take MC at all though. MKP he might be able to take out. Curious is one of the best ZvZ out there, but could also be beaten. - poor poor mana ;; - Naniwa I can see making it. Not an easy group, but it's doable. - Nestea is currently in his darkest hour but he still has retained some of his ZvP and ZvZ at least, the ZvT though.... He did 4-1 Supernova last time and has raped JYP in the past, Life on the other hand is another one of the best ZvZ in Korea so he could be a problem. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
MKP, JD, MC, Curious is also super hype, but hey all the groups look amazing. Can't wait  | ||
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babylon
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On September 01 2012 16:17 Adreme wrote: Seed clearly showing that he knows to pick the weakest and MC showing he hasnt learned his lesson since the MVP incident. I disagree. If MC wanted to play PvZ, then he has limited options. Line was taken. Symbol, Curious, Life, and Sniper look like they're in good shape. NesTea is on a team he is partnered with (and a pretty good friend to boot). So you have DRG and JD left. DRG is slumping, sure, but DRG can surge back to form at any moment, while JD is good but unproven. (Also JD recently lost to JangBi, who isn't impressive at all.) | ||
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Ender2701
United States581 Posts
I think JD actually has an okay chance in his group, MKP hasn't been playing well recently and I think Jaedong can take a ZvZ. Group E looks ridiculous. | ||
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duk3
United States807 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:21 Fionn wrote: MC's strongest MU is PvZ. He could have either picked Jaedong or Life. ...He made the right choice. I would have picked Life for sure out of the two. My sole reason for that is simply that Jaedong, being a Kespa zerg, has probably had to practice more vP matchups for Proleague than anything else (he certainly has played in enough) to the point where I would say his ZvP is probably a matchup I would fear. The only real big advantage I would give to Life is that he knows the GSL maps a lot better than JD so if it comes to a map choice game its the advantage to Life over JD but I dont think thats enough to warrant picking him. | ||
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g3rd0
Germany94 Posts
Btw, to people wondering about the new map (Abyssal City), this should be it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355867 Looks pretty cool to me. | ||
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claraa
United States3 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
Curious vZ: 22-9 (70.97%) Life vZ: 50-18 (73.53%) | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:27 g3rd0 wrote: These groups are some sick stuff. Btw, to people wondering about the new map (Abyssal City), this should be it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355867 Looks pretty cool to me. oh sweet didn't see that they were adding this in too. :D :D :D Thought this map was beautiful when I saw it in the map thread. Can't wait to see it in action. | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:25 babylon wrote: I disagree. If MC wanted to play PvZ, then he has limited options. Line was taken. Symbol, Curious, Life, and Sniper look like they're in good shape. NesTea is on a team he is partnered with (and a pretty good friend to boot). So you have DRG and JD left. DRG is slumping, sure, but DRG can surge back to form at any moment, while JD is good but unproven. (Also JD recently lost to JangBi, who isn't impressive at all.) MC had none of those options, as you're only allowed to pick from Tier 4. On September 01 2012 16:27 Adreme wrote: I would have picked Life for sure out of the two. My sole reason for that is simply that Jaedong, being a Kespa zerg, has probably had to practice more vP matchups for Proleague than anything else (he certainly has played in enough) to the point where I would say his ZvP is probably a matchup I would fear. The only real big advantage I would give to Life is that he knows the GSL maps a lot better than JD so if it comes to a map choice game its the advantage to Life over JD but I dont think thats enough to warrant picking him. Seed has first pick. So MC was stuck with JD. | ||
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:21 mrRoflpwn wrote: MC would pick JD!! FUCK YEAH- SHOW THE WORLD WHO IS THE BOSS TOSS!!! I feel these games are going to be amazing. MC was already practicing with JD when he was preparing for DRG by this stage they must know eachother pretty well. So keen for this season now so many good groups. With big hitters. Feel it may leave the finals a bit of a low though | ||
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Majynx
United States1431 Posts
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babylon
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On September 01 2012 16:30 RaiKageRyu wrote: MC had none of those options, as you're only allowed to pick from Tier 4. Oh god, there are tiers now? I missed something. | ||
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Singapore893 Posts
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eltese
Sweden369 Posts
Really hope he can make something happen but damn man.. Taeja and MVP? When the 'free-win' of the group is MMA you are pretty f****d | ||
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Chr15t
Denmark1103 Posts
Im so hyped for this group ;D | ||
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Viperbird
United States118 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
MaNa is so fucked rofl. poor guy group C & H looks the most fun to me. nice season | ||
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:31 CygnusAres wrote: Quick Question, I saw the GSL final of season 4 will be in October. Does that mean no more IPL + GSL ro4 up? the IPL + GSL Ro4 event is for the 5th and final Code S of the year. So the GSL after this one. | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:31 eltese wrote: Poor poor MaNa. Really hope he can make something happen but damn man.. Taeja and MVP? When the 'free-win' of the group is MMA you are pretty f****d Pretty sure MMA is stronger than Mvp at tvp right now. Mvp will probably have some trickery in store for MaNa though | ||
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babylon
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Inty
United States99 Posts
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Altern
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vorxaw
Canada245 Posts
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LT0vm.png) Wait a minute? Thanksgiving in September? Must be a Korean thing? Sorry if that is a dumb question, I just hadn't heard of Korean Thanksgiving. | ||
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RoranRock
France294 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
Micro god in SC1 meets Micro god of SC2. Cannot fucking wait. | ||
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Popkiller
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Meggiroth
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
bad news is, you have 3 bad ass terran | ||
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MuseMike
United States1339 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:35 babylon wrote: Sad there's a ST teamkill, but ... gotta say, I'm glad Line is the one on the chopping block. (Sorry, Line. If you take out Parting, I'll be inconsolable.) 2 people advance from groups, so they can both advance. On another note, Naniwa has a very good chance inhis group. Mana will have a tough time, but he is only preparing for one match up, and his PvT isn't bad. I think he has a shot. | ||
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Nisyax
Netherlands756 Posts
(go MMA) | ||
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Canada375 Posts
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Serpicooou
Poland8 Posts
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
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vanhio
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eXeElNino
Wales51 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
Edit: Gogo Mvp, MMA, and/or Taeja! Also Heart, Squirtle, and/or Sniper! I think my Korean bias is showing. ^_^ | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Group C is for me group of death. | ||
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deathr0w
United States114 Posts
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Random_Guy09
Canada1010 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:31 babylon wrote: Oh god, there are tiers now? I missed something. Shows the tier list right on the gom article Also some good luck for HerO!!! Maybe this season will be his :D + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vxHd5.png) | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
the kid's got this noooo problem man ! GO GO GO ! | ||
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Skyline026
Netherlands1129 Posts
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Dagan159
United States203 Posts
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get in there
United Kingdom67 Posts
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JJH777
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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.Riot
Philippines242 Posts
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mycro
Sweden1579 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
byun should do ok | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
MKP with his deathgroup luck rofl.... predictions : group A: seed, parting group B: symbol, ryung group C: curious, mkp group D: byun, rain group E: taeja, mvp group F: squirtle, sniper group G: JYP, supernova group H: gumiho, bomber | ||
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neckgripper
Canada100 Posts
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
also I'm really sad about group E losing at least one of the best Terrasn right away... sucks | ||
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
B: Ryung / HerO C: MC / Jaedong (please do it though MKP) D: Genius / Byun E: Taeja / either MaNa or MVP F: Naniwa / Squirtle G: Nestea / SuperNova H: DRG / Polt or Bomber These are my picks, this GSL is going to be amazing. I can't wait. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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neckgripper
Canada100 Posts
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antifan
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
Such an awesome tournament!!! and 2 foreigners in it who have shown they deserve to belong there! AND Kespa players too! It's gonna be so interesting to follow this season | ||
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grindC
Germany274 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:13 antifan wrote: When did Rain join a kespa team? I also thought he left GSL for good after forfeiting the code s a few months ago wrong rain this rain is by.Sun the other rain...well...haven't really won much in the last 12 months. | ||
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SilentShout
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
Naniwa has an ok group but I think this may actually be the hardest ro32 group he's had. Heart is a tricky bugger and while Nani's PvT is normally stellar we have no idea what shape it's in right now. I love his PvP but I'd bet on squirtle over him in that matchup. Sniper is zerg and Nani's PvZ is been hit and miss lately. I certainly hope for himt o advance and I think with the right mindset and the right builds he can but it's not going to be a cakewalk. I'm really excited for group H, hoping to see some sweet ZvT and some nice TvT games from a bunch of players I like. god all the groups are stacked and filled with players I love watching, this is going to be the best season ever. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:16 Nate5911 wrote: This season looks soo promising. Can't wait. Just think of how crazy the forums will go if JD makes it past round 1. I really am getting more and more excited for this season. | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
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halim42
France95 Posts
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
Hope they all go through!n.n | ||
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bLecK
Australia625 Posts
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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antifan
116 Posts
A. Seed - GSL champion Parting - Good solid Protoss B. Symbol - great player Hero - great player C. MC - 2 time GSL winner MKP - Good micro D. Genius- going to assume he practiced Byun - round of 4 twice in GSL E. Mvp - 4 time GSL winner MMA - 2 time GSL winner F. Naniwa - the best foreigner in the world Squirtle - almost beat IMMvp G. NesTea - 3 time GSL winner Supernova - won the campus thing H. DRG - GSL winner Polt - GSL winner | ||
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fds
Slovenia258 Posts
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ffrozenfish
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
A: leenock, parting B: ryung, hero C: marineking, jaedong D: byun, genius E: mvp, mana F: sniper, squirtle G: life, jyp H: drg, gumiho 5 zerg, 6 protoss, 5 terran that would be fun, if those i rooted for made it through! probably bad picks thoug lol | ||
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pmp10
3313 Posts
If he's still losing to terrans like Bratok and Kas this may not look pretty. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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TAAF
Switzerland226 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
Naniwa gets a decent draw, though. Or, at least, as decent as you can get in Code S | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On September 01 2012 15:59 AceLight wrote: Also, methinks this is the new GSL map. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355867 Is there a reason you think only one new map, and it'll be this one? I'm really hyped about Crux Caldeum | ||
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United States33331 Posts
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NHY
1013 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:31 Ribbon wrote: Is there a reason you think only one new map, and it'll be this one? I'm really hyped about Crux Caldeum Gom announced the new mappool. http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=224214&cid=0&kind=8 | ||
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qbs
Poland771 Posts
MaNa love them pvt`s xD | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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Night Eyes
433 Posts
I think its the first time ever that I want to see each and every one of the groups. | ||
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Raembo
Indonesia46 Posts
so hyped for this season GSL! might actually go and buy the ticket right now. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
Why so much TvT T:T and poor PartinG won't have any terran punching bag.... | ||
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tylerf
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
This season gonna be so good that it's not even funny.... | ||
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Herry
England681 Posts
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quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
O_O Things can't get any better than this really =)))) Also HerO gets a fine group, and group C with 3 of my fav players (MC, JD, MKP) are super sick as well. This season is going to be awesome | ||
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blDraX
Germany39 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:00 Laryleprakon wrote: So many great groups, easily the best Code S season! Personally excited for group E I agree, those groups are the sickest of all seasons. | ||
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Herry
England681 Posts
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Group B is a little tougher to call for me, but I think Symbol and Hero are favorites, especially if Hero doesn't choke (he absolutely shouldn't, but it could happen) - I'm wary of Ryung's TvZ, however - he has shown that he can kick Zerg ass if he wants to. Group C... Damn. I would like to see JD advance, but I think this group might be a little too tough for him. MC's best matchup should be able to roll JD and, probably, Curious. We'll have too see how MKP plays that day - if he brings his A-game he'll advance without trouble; otherwise, the second spot is anyone's game. For Group D, I'm torn between Byun/Sun and Byun/Genius. Sun has played ridiculously well recently, and Byun did make it pretty damn far last season, so I think I'll go with Byun and Sun. Shouldn't underestimate Genius, though - he doesn't like being underestimated, and will win any group to prove you wrong. Maybe. Group E: I'm sorry, Mana. That's all I can really say. (Predicting Taeja/Mvp) Group F is a fairly good group for Naniwa, if he can get out of his recent slump (semi-slump?). Squirtle's PvP might prove a little too tough for him, but you never know - they call it a coinflip matchup for a reason. Sniper and Heart can both be beaten if he plays like he did last season, but if he doesn't bring his A-game vs. Sniper, a very formidable Zerg, he'll probably end up in 3rd place. The toughest group to call for me, personally, is probably Group G. Right now, I think Life, JYP and SuperNoVa should all beat Nestea - but he has been in GSL for a million seasons for a reason, and his experience shouldn't be underestimated. The same goes for SuperNoVa - these two guys have been in for years without ever losing their spot. However, I'm too much of a fan of Life to not predict him advancing. First place if he beats JYP, second place if he doesn't. The second person advancing might be anyone out of the three, though JYPvT still isn't something I'd vouch for. In Group H, I think Gumiho advances in first place. He's been playing very well recently, what with the all-kill against Slayers-EG and all. If DRG is feeling well again, he will most likely advance second. If he is still down mentally after bombing out of Global-everything last season, Bomber will advance in second place. I'm rooting for DRG, though - he deserves a bit of success. | ||
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:07 neckgripper wrote: MC afraid to face life, so chooses JD who has way less experience but more notoriety. I hope JD crushes MC. Lolwhat? MC isn't afraid to face anybody. He has time and again picked the top players in order to create huge matchups and "groups of death". MC picking the most famous and high profile player in the tournament was the most obvious thing for him to do. | ||
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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Canada4020 Posts
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HolydaKing
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B: HerO, Symbol C: MC, Jaedong D: By.Sun, Genius E: Taeja, Mana F: Squirtle, Sniper G: SuperNova, Life H: DRG, Gumiho | ||
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
This doesn't seem like it was done randomly at all. | ||
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Krossfire
Australia1071 Posts
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dynwar7
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Waxangel
United States33331 Posts
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fightout
Singapore35 Posts
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United States953 Posts
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Antares_
Poland269 Posts
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wildstyle1337
Poland514 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:49 mrtomjones wrote: Not sure how people think C is harder than A.. Seed/Parting/Leenock? of course A is harder, and H also | ||
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Austria239 Posts
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Disengaged
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jaminski
England84 Posts
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Avicularia
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Naniwa should get out of his group. Heart is a bit cheesy, so I guess it's ok, Sniper is not the best zerg there, Naniwa was doing ok with his PvP in GSL. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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ZipLoCK
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Hopefully in future we'll see a map with island expo's that are perhaps abit more viable. Would've been nice to a few sky terran games on it though =/ | ||
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YpnotiS
France163 Posts
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Pwnzer
United States617 Posts
Group A: Seed, Parting Group B: Symbol, Hero Group C: MC, MKP (sorry JD fans...not yet!) Group D: Byun, Genius Group E: Taeja, MVP Group F: Squirtle, Nani (SECOND best foreigner in the world) Group G: Nestea, Supernova Group H: DRG, Polt Book it! | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Wow, this is going to be a hard one for Mana. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Finland7103 Posts
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Paincarnate
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Canada11044 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:56 Waxangel wrote: MaNa's period as an unbeatable PvT player passed a long time ago, like a year or so. That said, it's not like he started sucking at it, and having only one race to practice for is a big, big plus. MMA and Mvp are good TvP players, but tend to be a bit gimmicky. Expect siege tank builds To be fair, MMA and MVP (and Taeja too I believe) were said to have TvP as their weakest matchup. Statiscally this is still true for MMA and MVP. Still the weakest matchup of these top top players is scary and it will be hard for Mana. On September 01 2012 17:49 mrtomjones wrote: Not sure how people think C is harder than A.. Seed/Parting/Leenock? Seed and Parting are strong lately, but MC and MKP have been a force since forever and are also very strong this year (1st and 4th best earning player). Curious is one of the biggest underrated players. It will be his 5th consecutive Code S season. Leenock just crawled out a big slump. Dont overrate his MLG win, he beat zero current Code S players there. Suhosin got lucky a second time qualifying for Code S with his cheesy strats. Strong in the run for worst Code S players. I bet JD can easily compete with him. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + A: Seed, Parting If Line gets out I'll swallow a sword. Hopefully it kills me as I don't want to live in a world where this guy is in the ro16. Leenock has gotten better at ZvP but still seems to rely on somewhat gimmicky play in the mu, not entirely convinced in him yet against protoss which is a shame because he's almost always fun to watch. B: Symbol, herO Haven't heard from Symbol in a little while and last time his momentum seemed to have stopped dead in its tracks as he got beat in gsl, osl, wcs, and wcg. But, so what? Prior to that he looked like a clear champion-class player and not since Nestea's glorious days have I been captivated by a Zerg so much. His mechanics are good, his understanding of Zerg is brilliant, he uses the full Zerg arsenal unlike any other Zerg these days, and he has an entire team of good Zergs to bounce ideas off of. You'd be a fool to write him off. Also, herO is just a baller. C: MC, Jaedong MC is in great form right now and his PvZ is still likely the best out there. Jaedong is a bit of a reach but totally capable of making it, he'll have his work cut out for him though as MKP is still deadly and Curious has one of the best ZvZ in Korea. D: Genius, Byun 3 gsl players with their ups and downs of mediocre and amazing + a kespa player that I'm not entirely comfortable with yet. Shot in the dark picks... E: Taeja, MVP Can this fucking group be any better? MMA vs MVP rematch..AGAIN and Mana from out of nowhere. Taeja has looked the best out of everyone recently, and despite MMA destroying MVP in their last encounters, I feel like this will be one where MMA finally loses. F: Squirtle, Naniwa Squirtle is just all around good, and seems to be the best pvp out there. Sniper is frankly more likely to come in 2nd...BUT Naniwa is absolutely capable and he's made ro8 twice now so I feel like taking another reach. G: Nestea, Zergbong Okay, so...Zergbong plays and totally fucks everything up with terrible play. But just as he's about to lose to JYP the real Nestea appears after months of absence. As it turns out Nestea was away on business in a distant galaxy, but before leaving poured all his weakness into one being. Despite being an existence of pure fail, Zergbong was still of Nestea's essence and thus was deemed worthy enough to hold down the fort while Nestea was away. Life, despite advancing in 1st place is driven insane upon getting too close to Nestea's aura, thus ending his run and career. Zergbong knowing his place promptly exits the booth to make way for the great one. Mr.Chae moves to object, but quickly realizes you never raise your voice to Nestea and quietly slumps back down. JYP despite being astronomically ahead, is quickly dispatched while Supernova, realizing it's pointless, forfeits. All is right with the world again. fuck all of ya. Artosis has my back :D H: DRG, Bomber DRG's slump is exaggerated and he has only 1 matchup to prepare for. None of the terrans strike me as the clear best for tvt.....guess I'll believe in Bomber (risky risky). | ||
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Switzerland276 Posts
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benDover!
Romania19 Posts
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
Looking for Taeja to win the whole thing this season. | ||
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
This will be a season where if you are 4th in your group it doesn't really mean you are bad. | ||
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GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:01 forsooth wrote: Groups E and H, what the fuck. It's like an anti-top Terran conspiracy. I know right!?! There's not a single group that has more than two zergs/protoss, but somehow we have TWO groups with three terrans. How is this possible!?! | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
MMA on a slump, Mana will never beat either Taeja or Mvp. Easy group for Taeja, prolly Mvp 2nd. Group C: HOLY SHIT | ||
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
Rub it in all of their faces :D I'm not that worried for Mana. It's his best matchup, it's their worst matchup, he only has to practice one matchup - he can do it  | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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Poland241 Posts
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United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Denmark323 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:29 Belha wrote: Group E of Death????!? MMA on a slump, Mana will never beat either Taeja or Mvp. Easy group for Taeja, prolly Mvp 2nd. Group C: HOLY SHIT MC good, JD average at this point, Curious average, MKP slumping... group C? Look at E or A | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: meh guess I'll do one too + Show Spoiler + A: Seed, Parting If Line gets out I'll swallow a sword. Hopefully it kills me as I don't want to live in a world where this guy is in the ro16. Leenock has gotten better at ZvP but still seems to rely on somewhat gimmicky play in the mu, not entirely convinced in him yet against protoss which is a shame because he's almost always fun to watch. B: Symbol, herO Haven't heard from Symbol in a little while and last time his momentum seemed to have stopped dead in its tracks as he got beat in gsl, osl, wcs, and wcg. But, so what? Prior to that he looked like a clear champion-class player and not since Nestea's glorious days have I been captivated by a Zerg so much. His mechanics are good, his understanding of Zerg is brilliant, he uses the full Zerg arsenal unlike any other Zerg these days, and he has an entire team of good Zergs to bounce ideas off of. You'd be a fool to write him off. Also, herO is just a baller. C: MC, Jaedong MC is in great form right now and his PvZ is still likely the best out there. Jaedong is a bit of a reach but totally capable of making it, he'll have his work cut out for him though as MKP is still deadly and Curious has one of the best ZvZ in Korea. D: Genius, Byun 3 gsl players with their ups and downs of mediocre and amazing + a kespa player that I'm not entirely comfortable with yet. Shot in the dark picks... E: Taeja, MVP Can this fucking group be any better? MMA vs MVP rematch..AGAIN and Mana from out of nowhere. Taeja has looked the best out of everyone recently, and despite MMA destroying MVP in their last encounters, I feel like this will be one where MMA finally loses. F: Squirtle, Naniwa Squirtle is just all around good, and seems to be the best pvp out there. Sniper is frankly more likely to come in 2nd...BUT Naniwa is absolutely capable and he's made ro8 twice now so I feel like taking another reach. G: Nestea, Zergbong Okay, so...Zergbong plays and totally fucks everything up with terrible play. But just as he's about to lose to JYP the real Nestea appears after months of absence. As it turns out Nestea was away on business in a distant galaxy, but before leaving poured all his weakness into one being. Despite being an existence of pure fail, Zergbong was still of Nestea's essence and thus was deemed worthy enough to hold down the fort while Nestea was away. Life, despite advancing in 1st place is driven insane upon getting too close to Nestea's aura, thus ending his run and career. Zergbong knowing his place promptly exits the booth to make way for the great one. Mr.Chae moves to object, but quickly realizes you never raise your voice to Nestea and quietly slumps back down. JYP despite being astronomically ahead, is quickly dispatched while Supernova, realizing it's pointless, forfeits. All is right with the world again. fuck all of ya. Artosis has my back :D H: DRG, Bomber DRG's slump is exaggerated and he has only 1 matchup to prepare for. None of the terrans strike me as the clear best for tvt.....guess I'll believe in Bomber (risky risky). I think you may be confusing the spelling of "our" Liquid HerO with the CJ Entus herO? | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:36 TheBanana wrote: I think you may be confusing the spelling of "our" Liquid HerO with the CJ Entus herO? No not at all. Just a bad habit of not capitalizing the first letter of his name, yet always remembering the O. It just stands out enough to me to always remember it. Kind of forgot there's two of them in sc2 now as well, lol... | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:35 Zane wrote: Holy shit Mvp, how did you manage to get yourself in that group? Don't know what you're talking about. MMA is in a big slump and MaNa is one of the weakest in Code S. Him and Taeja should quite easily make it out. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:38 DrPandaPhD wrote: Don't know what you're talking about. MMA is in a big slump and MaNa is one of the weakest in Code S. Him and Taeja should quite easily make it out. I know, but still...It's freaking MMA and Taeja. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
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S_SienZ
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On September 01 2012 16:01 Jlei wrote: MMA vs. MVP yay. Mana gets like the 3 hardest Terrans possible. Good luck! TvP wise not really though. Mvp's group luck man... TaeJa twice in a row? | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:38 DrPandaPhD wrote: Don't know what you're talking about. MMA is in a big slump and MaNa is one of the weakest in Code S. Him and Taeja should quite easily make it out. MMA doesn't lose to Mvp, kinda like Mvp doesn't lose to MKP. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:34 mrtomjones wrote: MC good, JD average at this point, Curious average, MKP slumping... group C? Look at E or A Calling MC only 'good' and Curious 'average', says a lot about judgement. Curious has been so consistent. Look at the right, TLPD #4. MKP is slumping on a very very high level. People just expect him to win everything. MC being 'good' is the Code S finalist and most people decide between him and Taeja for best player in the world right now. | ||
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:38 DrPandaPhD wrote: Don't know what you're talking about. MMA is in a big slump and MaNa is one of the weakest in Code S. Him and Taeja should quite easily make it out. MMA is not in a slump, he just didn't feel like he's on form enough to participate in IEM. But he was awesome everytime was saw him recently: crushed his way through Code A and IEM Cologne KR qualifiers. And when MaNa plays his best with additional korea training, he can take on everyone in this group (just watch TaeJa vs MaNa Assembly Summer 2012; and that was before he was in Korea) | ||
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Alokiya
United States648 Posts
Derp. Shoulda looked at the team name. But, by all accounts, this is the most stacked sc2 tournament yet. I mean, when you have a group and you can make the argument that Curious should place 4th, you know it's a stacked group. But, there's even scarier ones. That's pretty freaking impressive. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:43 S_SienZ wrote: MMA doesn't lose to Mvp, kinda like Mvp doesn't lose to MKP. MVP's 10-17 against MMA. Pretty bad, but he can beat him, especially with MMA's recent form. | ||
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eerikl
Sweden4 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Group D and F look the easiest though... Mana might have a fighting chance to come out second after Taeja, he has only one match-up to prepare for after all. I gotta say, I always followed Code S very closely, and this looks like the most stacked season ever, hands down. | ||
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Poland4725 Posts
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wraggy1234
United Kingdom135 Posts
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Haave
Finland9 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Netherlands800 Posts
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marcelluspye
United States155 Posts
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quRax
Korea (South)264 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:44 00Visor wrote: Calling MC only 'good' and Curious 'average', says a lot about judgement. Curious has been so consistent. Look at the right, TLPD #4. MKP is slumping on a very very high level. People just expect him to win everything. MC being 'good' is the Code S finalist and most people decide between him and Taeja for best player in the world right now. I meant good as in great or good in comparison to the others in his group. MKP is not really slumping on a high level. He hasn't won much lately at all and has blown some won games. He can turn it around quick though. Curious has just never done anything in Code S. | ||
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M4nkind
Lithuania178 Posts
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Nnoitra
Portugal7 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:58 M4nkind wrote: can some one help me a lil? I didn't follow gsl lately, but wasnt MKP and MMA in code A? did I miss how they got to code S? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_3/Code_A They both qualified from winning their round of 24s in last season's Code A. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
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Kreb
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
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dextrin303
Sweden320 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
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On September 01 2012 19:10 Kreb wrote: Do I remember it wrong or does the old winner and runnerup get to choose one player each? If so, any words on who MC/Seed picked? Out of guess I'd say Seed picking Suhosin because he's one of the weaker Code S players. I think MC picked Jaedong because he has self-declaimed himself as "The KeSPA Killer" and had an undertaker intro to OSL. Also because Jaedong is zerg and MC wins vs zerg. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:10 Kreb wrote: Do I remember it wrong or does the old winner and runnerup get to choose one player each? If so, any words on who MC/Seed picked? Suoshin and Jaedong most likely. MC is the type to want someone like JD as an opponent and Suoshin is cheesy as heck and Seed has great FF's so it would make sense. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:57 mrtomjones wrote: I meant good as in great or good in comparison to the others in his group. MKP is not really slumping on a high level. He hasn't won much lately at all and has blown some won games. He can turn it around quick though. Curious has just never done anything in Code S. Look at MKPs results and say again he hasnt won much lately: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/959_MarineKing/games http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/959_MarineKing/games You just expect too much and only realize some stupid losses like against TriMaster, Revival, By.Sun(Bo1). Curious has never done anything in Code S? Yeah, but he always requalified immediately. Last season he only lost 2x against the eventual winner Seed to go out of Code S. He beat Hero and later Puzzle and Creator in Code A. Code S is not the only relevant tournament either. Curious qualified for TSL and WCS, did decent in both. | ||
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Roynalf
Finland886 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Group A: Seed, Leenock Ok, Line is a free win for anyone in this group and I'll eat a hat if someone even cheesier than Bit-by-Bit makes it into next round (can't believe he made it here in the first place). Seed is rock solid in general, so I'll put him in first place. While I love Parting and he got a lot better vs Z, his strength is still vT and the momentum is currently with Leenock, so I'd say Leenock comes out second though I wouldn't be surprised at all if Parting comes out ahead. Group B: Hero, Yoda Hardest group to predict. I believe that Hero is overall the best player in this group and he has overcome his nerve issues. The hype train around Symbol has died off a bit, but I still believe him to be one of the best Zergs and that he could take a championship. Ryung is solid but unremarkable, I doubt he will make a deep run. Yoda has something around him, MVP said he is the best player on IM after all and I want to see a Royal Road candidate make it deep, so I'll say he makes it, but it could be Hero + anyone else to make it out of this group, really. Group C: MC, Curious BossToss will find a way to roll this group and Curious is the master of underratedness, so I'll give it to those two. MKP is in a slump recently, especially against Z, so this is a tough group for him and JD is not good enough to snatch more than a victory in this group yet. Group D: Byun, Rain Hm, this group seems easier than the previous ones. Rain impressed me in WCS and I want a Kespa player to advance. PuppyTerran made a deep run last time and I think he can repeat that performance. Happy and Genius, while both decent, seem to be more of Code A caliber in the long run imo. Group E: Taeja, MVP I want to believe in Mana, his PvT is good, MVP and MMA might be beaten by him under optimal circumstances, but I think his nerves will get to him, he was shaken in Up&D already according to his interview, and the real Code S stage gotta be even more frightening. So, Taeja being Taeja and MVP just knows how to win even one-handed, they are the two clear favorites here. MMA has too much drama surrounding him and never developed past the brilliant multitasker yet mechanically challenged player he was back when he made his big splash in the scene. Group F: Squirtle, Sniper Easiest group imo. Squirtle is a level above his competition, would be a surprise if he didn't make it. Heart is still so one-dimensional, I want him to get eliminated as soon as possible to be honest, I just don't enjoy his playstyle. So the question remains if Nani can repeat his performances or if Sniper, who has shown some up and coming qualities lately will make it. I make the save, Korean, choice but will be cheering for Naniwa. Group G: Life, Supernova I want to see Life advance, not only because he is one of the online superstars of Zerg, but also because of his nailbiting match vs Ryung in the U&D, was fun to watch and this guy plays his own style. Love to watch him. Nestea hasn't been impressive for a while, he might make it out if we see a flicker of his old brilliance shine through, but I doubt it. Jyp will EG it up. Group H: DRG, Gumibear I believe this will be the tournament DRG will recover his old form. Someone that good can't be shaken up by a few losses on his home turf that bad, can he? I'd like Bomber to advance, but alas I learned to never rely on Bomber, so I think the TowelTerran edges out ahead of Polt and Bomber. Ah scratch that, Polt is so dedicated and concentrates on Korea right now, so I think it will be him and DRG. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:14 00Visor wrote: Look at MKPs results and say again he hasnt won much lately: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/959_MarineKing/games http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/959_MarineKing/games You just expect too much and only realize some stupid losses like against TriMaster, Revival, By.Sun(Bo1). Curious has never done anything in Code S? Yeah, but he always requalified immediately. Last season he only lost 2x against the eventual winner Seed to go out of Code S. He beat Hero and later Puzzle and Creator in Code A. Code S is not the only relevant tournament either. Curious qualified for TSL and WCS, did decent in both. Yah but Code S is different and until Curious shows he can do something there I wont consider him above average I guess I am more judging MKP based on those games where he had time to train for them but meh. I still don't think he is in good form. Might be too soon to call it slumping as you say but he has had some bad play lately in key games. I havnt seen them all though so I could be wrong as you say | ||
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klniceajer
Malaysia14 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
GroupB: Hero, Ryung GroupC: MC, MKP GroupD: Byun, Rain GroupE: Taeja, MMA GroupF: Squirtle, Naniwa GroupG: Life, JYP GroupH: DRG, Gumiho Picked MKP/MMA based on how awesome they are and hope they get back to top form. Naniwa prepares for games really well which could get him out of there... Not much respect for group D so Rain will get out and I predict one of Squirtle, Parting, or Taeja to win this season :D | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:14 mrtomjones wrote: Suoshin and Jaedong most likely. MC is the type to want someone like JD as an opponent and Suoshin is cheesy as heck and Seed has great FF's so it would make sense. Exactly, the winner and runner up get to pick their Tier 4 opponent. Line is a joke, no wonder he got picked by Seed and MC loves the drama so of course he would pick a Kespa player, and I also believe that JD will be easy for him. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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Nirel
Israel1526 Posts
by the way sucks to be mana lol and taeja to win gsl | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
Haven't heard Artosis cast for a long time anyway | ||
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SirWinsALot
Poland6 Posts
It's his best matchup against european players for sure, but since he started to ladder@korea he says he doesn't rly feel comfortable because koreans got weird (for him) timings and he's got hard time getting used to them. However, he was able to beat Keen and lose to Bomber in up&down bo1 matches, albo he had 0-2 vs Taeja and 2-3 vs BratOK yesterday @ Ritmix Russian StarCraft 2 League Season 2, so it's hard to tell where he stands. Personally i think it's good for him, he's got some time to prepare for the matchup, playing korean ladder + studing games with his brother funkay (also a terran, currently nerding at Korea). I wish him all the best, and honestly he's in great position, because if he screwes up nobody will blame him, but if he wins he's gonna be legen....wait for it...dary! | ||
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fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
MVP. MMA. ICARRYTLONMYBACKTAEJA. >> | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:31 shabby wrote: Group B is sickest group of death. That's actually what I thought as well. group C/E... big names. group B? big games! | ||
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
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TheSwedishFan
Sweden608 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:45 MrKn4rz wrote: Why is nobody voting for group A? Because they are delusioned by the big names in Grp E. MVP and Taeja are the clear favourites there. MMA is in a big slump (wasn't even in Code S last season) and MaNa is one of the weakest Code S players. But because of people being used to MMA MVP being insane, Taeja beasting and Mana being a foreign hope together with Naniwa they vote for that group. Objectively looking at the groups, Grp E is not the toughest. | ||
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SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
Taeja... MVP... MMA... and Mana.... Well, at least Mana only needs to prepare for PvT. Least his practice schedule is "simplified" but where is he going to find a Terran partner with elite TvP skills to train with I wonder? | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:51 SkimGuy wrote: Wonder why they gave JD and Rain free code S seeds. They're deserving, but I thought GSL was not leaning towards doing that anymore. Rain will probably win his group lol A deal with Kespa. To my knowledge they were still giving out seeds anyways, they just gave them to Kespa to give them incentive to come now instead of later. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:51 SkimGuy wrote: Wonder why they gave JD and Rain free code S seeds. They're deserving, but I thought GSL was not leaning towards doing that anymore. Rain will probably win his group lol The format didn't change, so they still need to fill 2 Code S spots with fresh seeds each season. Since they are having trouble to get deserving foreigners to accept and fly to Korea, I'd expect those seeds to go to Kespay players for at least two more seasons or so. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
those groups, wow | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
Group C and A are definately the best groups. I'm really looking forward to those... | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Simsallabin
Nepal216 Posts
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Arachne
South Africa426 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:58 Simsallabin wrote: Mana going to take that group easy. I agree actually. lol. Mana did better vs Taeja in PvT at IEM than MC did. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Can not wait! | ||
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Aando
1304 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:56 TeeTS wrote: lol people voting group E as group of death only recognize big names and not current form. Group A & C are the most stacked groups here. Line (aka Suhosin) showed amazing play in the U&D, Leenock smashed through MLG, and Seed and Parting are 2 of the top5 protoss right now (and those 5 protoss players (squirtle, seed, creator, parting, MC) are very close in skill, but at least one level above all other protosses)! Group C and A are definately the best groups. I'm really looking forward to those... Why C? Sure MKP and MC but JD and Curious? I'd hold D over C depending on if Genius wants to win or not. | ||
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Madars
Latvia166 Posts
I think MVP might not get out of the group depending on how good form MMA is in. TaeJa has insanely good TvP and TvT, and MMA always wins MVP, | ||
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Raiquer
Sweden98 Posts
On September 01 2012 19:56 TeeTS wrote: lol people voting group E as group of death only recognize big names and not current form. Group A & C are the most stacked groups here. Line (aka Suhosin) showed amazing play in the U&D, Leenock smashed through MLG, and Seed and Parting are 2 of the top5 protoss right now (and those 5 protoss players (squirtle, seed, creator, parting, MC) are very close in skill, but at least one level above all other protosses)! Group C and A are definately the best groups. I'm really looking forward to those... Yeah lol, group E is like one of the 3 easiest groups. | ||
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MiLesRP
Germany68 Posts
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Jermman
Canada174 Posts
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On September 01 2012 20:06 Aando wrote: Why C? Sure MKP and MC but JD and Curious? I'd hold D over C depending on if Genius wants to win or not. MC one of the best protoss, MKP one of the best terrans if he plays with courage and self esteem again, Curious is definately one of the best zergs right now (There is no zerg out there I would clearly place above him) and JD showed great improvement in each of his games at WCS, expect him to be even better now! | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Group E doesn't stand out for me, I consider MMA to be one of the weakest players in code S atm. Taeja and MVP are fantastic of course but I give mana a fair shot to make it out actually. | ||
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Hds
France200 Posts
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Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
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trwkling
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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ydeer1993
United Kingdom569 Posts
On September 01 2012 20:21 Markwerf wrote: group C is cool, fun to see MC vs JD. Group E doesn't stand out for me, I consider MMA to be one of the weakest players in code S atm. Weakest player ? are you shitting me? look what he has won this year, there is a reason he got that NASL Invite, because he has achieved alot of results this year.. he beat hero and violet to get back into code S? two players who the community rate highly! I could probably list off 10 names right now of who he is better than but thats pointless.. he's a two time GSL Champion so listing names isn't required.. you shouldn't be suprised if he even wins this group with ease.. | ||
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ydeer1993
United Kingdom569 Posts
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ydeer1993
United Kingdom569 Posts
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xPliCt
Germany143 Posts
Seed - Defending Champion Parting - long time favorite Leenock - won the last major tournament (MLG) | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:34 mrtomjones wrote: MC good, JD average at this point, Curious average, MKP slumping... group C? Look at E or A curious average?? rofl, he is at least top 5 zerg in the world atm, and mkp isnt slumping, not at all wtf..... Jaedong is pretty damn good already.... | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Group A: Seed: One of few GSL Champions who seemed to remain consistent after their victory of the hardest competition in the world. He was the only person in iM who could take down Liquid Taeja in TAC3 when he seemed unbeatable at the time. Either that or it was fatigue from all killing iM once earlier that day. Regardless, Seed is the clear #1 here for me. Parting: The second spot is either going to be Parting or Leenok, and despite Leenok performing very well lately, Protoss seem to be dominating Korea atm and Parting is one of the reasons why. I feel bad for Leenok but protoss in Korea just look too strong atm. Suhosin should be last here in the group. Group B: Hero: With a staggering 4:0 in his Up and Downs yesterday, Hero will be coming into this tournament extremely confident. While somewhat overshadowed by his teammate - Taejas accomplishments, one cannot underestimate Heros skill and cute little warp-prism micro. Now hero is known for his PvZ, however there is only 1 other zerg. However Yoda and Ryung, while they are decent, they are not top tier. Hero will take this group under the condition his nerves dont do it for him. Symbol: When he made it deep into code S last season, this was the zerg everyone had their eyes on. However since then he seemed to have dropped off the radar, but if he has a sliver of dominance he had last season, I can see Symbol taking second place in this group, simply because Hero is a beast at PvZ. However I would not be surprised to see either Yoda or Ryung in second place, but I got my money on symbol. Group C: MC: Last seasons GSL runner up and a clear favorite here. While I expect him to make it deep into this season, I dont expect him to win. JD was a smart choice as he is the least experienced in SC2 and will bolster his popularity to another level if he beats him too. Curious: With Marineking slumping, and JD too new to the scene as well as spending time practicing 2 games, I can see Curious taking second place uncontested. Most over-look Curious and just go for the big names (MKP & JD), however for those who have actually watched Curious, will know that he is actually a pretty decent player. Group D: Rain: Otherwise known as By.Sun, he is one of the few KeSPA players who is absolutely dominating atm. He did extremely well in WCS Korea defeating many big names, and his play style seemed impeccable. I can definately see him taking #1 here. Byun: Byun was the Terran hope of last GSL, as the only Terran left in the quarterfinals. This alone says something about Byun. Genius seemed to be in a slump lately and Happy is pretty mediocre, so I can see Byun making #2 here, but I would not be surprised to see Rain and Byun interchanging positions, but both making it through. Group E: MVP: MVP being the clear favorite here and the worlds most consistent and best player. I dont think many people who bet him not making it through here despite having such a tough group. Sure MMA has his number, but that was awhile ago when MMA wasnt slumping. Taeja: Taeja is the clear #2 here for me. With MMA slumping and Taeja himself being unstoppable (although not as unstoppable much recently), this should be EZPZ. Sure Mana is known for his PvT, but in an interview with Khaldor, he actually said himself that since coming to Korea, that isnt so much the case anymore. I feel bad for Mana as he seems like a very kind and down to earth person, but at the end of the day, its hard to vote against the likes of MVP and Taeja. Group F: Squirtle: Squirtle is probably the clear favorite here, as the runner up to WCS korea. He is a very solid all-round player, good at all match ups. This is a trait very important here as this group contains all races. Even though Squirtle is yet win a big tournament, I can still see him advancing here as #1. Sniper: As much as I respect Naniwa, Sniper just seems too good. Anyone who watched his up and down matches recently will understand. Naniwa should take 3rd place followed by Heart, but Sniper should be the clear 2nd here. Group G: Supernova: As one of the worlds most constant terran and player, Supernova should never be overlooked. Similar to Squirtle where he is yet to take home a big tournament, while I see him advancing from this group, I dont see him winning GSL. Regardless, his competition in this group isnt so scary, so I see him taking #1 here. Nestea: This one was a bit tricky. Right now id say that Life is playing better than Nestea, however Nestea having been in Code S for 10 seasons straight, can see him making it out here barely. Although I wouldnt be surprised to see Life take it here either. As for JYP, well he has just dropped off the map completely. Group H: Gumiho: A very consistent Terran who has showed he has great at all matchups, in particular Terran in his spectacular match against MMA in the GSTL finals. For those who havent watched this match Id strongly advise doing so, and you can watch it for free on GOM as it is the first match. A clear #1 for me. Polt: While Polt is known for his TvP, there are no Protoss in this group. Luckily DRG is slumping badly and Bomber is so inconsistant, so I can see Polt making #2 here pretty easily. But this really depends if Bomber decides to bring his A game or not. If so, Bomber > Polt, but most likely the other way around. | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
(or lucky). Really looking forward to see group C ~ | ||
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bucckevin
858 Posts
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Betelgeuse
Canada210 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
Also, jaedong gets a rude awakening at GSL, he should get smashed , particularly considering how he played yesterday in PL. He played so bad it was infuriating. | ||
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2v2TLRSimba
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neckgripper
Canada100 Posts
On September 01 2012 17:46 cablesc wrote: Lolwhat? MC isn't afraid to face anybody. He has time and again picked the top players in order to create huge matchups and "groups of death". MC picking the most famous and high profile player in the tournament was the most obvious thing for him to do. MC's best matchup is pvz, if he wanted to create a group of death, he woulda chose someone other than JD. He practices with JD and he said that kespa zergs were waay behind gsl zergs. One can already tell MC beat JD most of the times in their practices. The reason he chose JD is so he can have an easy path through code S. There were 3 zergs in the tier 4 list. Line, life and JD. Line was taken by seed already, so MC took the easier zerg in JD cause he knows life is pretty damn good. If mc really wanted to make it a group of death, he shoulda chose bomber, rain, yoda or life since those four are the best ones there. | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form). Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what. | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:01 althaz wrote: Group E the group of death? Seriously. Group E has Taeja who is white-hot, MVP who is injured, MMA who is not at his best and Mana who is a foreigner (but still seems likely to make it out because MVP and MMA aren't that great right now and Mana is strong in PvT). Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form). Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what. sigh, curious REALLY is underrated lol.............................. also MVP just won IEM like 2 weeks ago, MMA stormed his way back into the scene...... mana is like top 5 foreigner AT LEAST........ mkp is only slumping slightly | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:01 althaz wrote: Group E the group of death? Seriously. Group E has Taeja who is white-hot, MVP who is injured, MMA who is not at his best and Mana who is a foreigner (but still seems likely to make it out because MVP and MMA aren't that great right now and Mana is strong in PvT). Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form). Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what. All of the groups are pretty massively stacked in terms of not being easy to predict at all from a relatively objective standpoint (i.e. without any fanboy bias whatsoever). GSL is seeing tremendous improvement compared to early-mid 2011, you can at best predict one guy who won't advance and even then there will be upsets no doubt. On a different note, who do you even cheer for, given some of these groups ;_; I hope Jaedong and By.Sun prove they're deserving of the seed at least, that will be interesting to watch. | ||
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Armagreen
Poland16 Posts
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Chronos.
United States805 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2266 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:03 Kluey wrote: Every group is a group of death... Group G is a group of Life ;P | ||
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
Leenock and Parting Advance Group B Hero and Symbol Advance Group C MKP and MC Advance Group D Genius and Rain Advance Group E MVP and Taeja Advance Group F Heart and Squirtle Advance Group G Life and Nestea Advance Group H Bomber and DRG Advance | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
Group A is going to be the hardest group imo. Line is meh, ye, but he did well in the up and downs and Leenock Seeeeedu and PartinG are easily 3 players you'd expect to be in the semis with ease. PartinG probably the weakest there of late but he'll practice it up, just needs to tune up his PvZ. Byun got the best group he could hope for, really hope he lets it show. Unfortunately with Happy's TvP I don't see him advancing but at least its not a team kill anymore haha. For group C I actually see MC/Jaedong and Curious advancing. I wanna be proven wrong but Curious is so fucking good, just under the radar, and MKP hasn't really been MKPin it up recently. DRG probably couldn't be happier, very nice group but it will be hard, difficult to predict that one. Group G will be fun, pretty much comes down to whether SuperNoVa can win his TvZs or not. JYP will most likely advance I really see NesTea in last place, Life's ZvZ is really fucking good and JYP is equally skilled PvZ. | ||
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executorx
Germany81 Posts
MMA vs MVP lets hope its gonna be great TvT as in the past. Group H: DRG should be really comfortablewith this group as he is/was a big Terran Killer... on the other hand Bomber, Polt and Gumiho are strong opponents. | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:25 Badfatpanda wrote: Ahahahaha, MaNa I heard you like PvT, WELL HERE. Group A is going to be the hardest group imo. Line is meh, ye, but he did well in the up and downs and Leenock Seeeeedu and PartinG are easily 3 players you'd expect to be in the semis with ease. PartinG probably the weakest there of late but he'll practice it up, just needs to tune up his PvZ. Byun got the best group he could hope for, really hope he lets it show. Unfortunately with Happy's TvP I don't see him advancing but at least its not a team kill anymore haha. For group C I actually see MC/Jaedong and Curious advancing. I wanna be proven wrong but Curious is so fucking good, just under the radar, and MKP hasn't really been MKPin it up recently. DRG probably couldn't be happier, very nice group but it will be hard, difficult to predict that one. Group G will be fun, pretty much comes down to whether SuperNoVa can win his TvZs or not. JYP will most likely advance I really see NesTea in last place, Life's ZvZ is really fucking good and JYP is equally skilled PvZ. i think seed is the weakest atm of those 3 since he bombed out of the wcs korea with a 2-0 loss to parting then to roro. how can drg be happy, his group has 3 fairly strong but inconsistent terrans...... i can see mkp going through, mc is not the bosstoss he used to be and jaedong just isnt up to par | ||
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kvn4444
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:01 althaz wrote: Group E the group of death? Seriously. Group E has Taeja who is white-hot, MVP who is injured, MMA who is not at his best and Mana who is a foreigner (but still seems likely to make it out because MVP and MMA aren't that great right now and Mana is strong in PvT). Group A and B are by FAR the strongest groups. Both are complete bullshit with six out of the eight players in those groups capable of winning the whole tournament. The ones I'm saying won't win are Ryung, the best SlayerS Terran and SuHoSin, who is in very good form at the moment. Netiher are good enough to win though. Yoda is I guess not well-known, but he is probably IMs best player, except maybe for Seed in terms of current form). Group E is Taeja and some randoms, although to be fair anybody could make it out of that group because Taeja is not a fantastic TvTer. Runner up in the poll is Group C which has MC and MKP who is not at the top of his game (still formidable). It also has two zergs which probably won't make it out of the group and DEFINITELY won't make it to the Ro8, pretty much no matter what. Although I do agree that group E isn't quite the group of death, its just more or less a group of death from the foreigner perspective... You couldn't really piece together a much harder group for Mana to get out of. While I would put mana ahead of MMA right now, I can't put him ahead of taeja no matter what or MVP. MVP has been injured this whole time... He's been resting, and he's still been putting in solid results. Using that excuse would only work if he was slumping. Either way as of late MVP has been having more success TvT than MMA and should take the series. Group A could be the group of death if the groups were only 3 players. Suhosin doesn't belong in code S. So with that said that makes it much easier to guess who will get out of the group. Group E is much harder to guess than this group. I got Leenock and Parting Group B EZPZ Hero and Symbol. I think this was probably the most straightforward group. Hero isn't great, but he's better than these guys, and Symbol is better than them as well. Yoda almost belongs, and Ryung does but is just barely outmatched. I guess I could see Ryung taking it if he manages to get by hero, but I just don't see it. so basically you said group A and B are the hardest, but they both have 1 player that would be an extreme upset if he made it out. A group of death is a group where all the players should be in the round of 16, not when only 3 of the players should be. | ||
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Ritchie
Canada206 Posts
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:31 X3GoldDot wrote: i think seed is the weakest atm of those 3 since he bombed out of the wcs korea with a 2-0 loss to parting then to roro. how can drg be happy, his group has 3 fairly strong but inconsistent terrans...... i can see mkp going through, mc is not the bosstoss he used to be and jaedong just isnt up to par wait... did you just say MC isn't the bosstoss he used to be? Who has consistently won, or almost won every single thing he's entered? MC and MKP are the strongest by far in that group. The issue would actually be with MKP and his current half-assery in his games. If he slips up Curious will take his spot. | ||
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mRpolite
189 Posts
so exited!!!!! | ||
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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YuiHirasawa
Japan220 Posts
Other than that I can't wait to see JD play. It may be the most stacked Code S season to date. | ||
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mRpolite
189 Posts
sickest line-up ever | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
I feel really bad for him now TT | ||
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Zion9
Romania347 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Also, methinks this is the new GSL map. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355867 I can see Protoss doing very well on this new map. The 3rd is relatively easily defended because it is in the direction away from your opponent and there are a lot of tight gaps for forcefields. Also drop play and warp prism harass will be very strong here as there is a large space behind the bases for them to sneak around from the main to 3rd, as well as a lengthy distance between the two. I think zerg drew the short straw here with all these tight spaces, although they should be able to get nice flanks through the 2 platforms in the middle with 3 ramps each, but still, Protoss dominating will continue in Korea. | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
Group G looks like something out of GSL Open Season 1 hahaha -- old schoolers unite! (except jyp) | ||
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CikaZombi
Serbia630 Posts
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Reality_Seeker
Bulgaria18 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
update: Just purchased it | ||
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Jochan
Poland1730 Posts
I am sorry dude, getting into one of the hardest groups of Code S, maybe even ever.... | ||
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odaxium
United States356 Posts
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herrmus
Sweden144 Posts
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Laplaces_imp
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
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Kaitokid
Germany1327 Posts
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1handsomE
United States199 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:26 executorx wrote: Poor Mana in group E :D MMA vs MVP lets hope its gonna be great TvT as in the past. Group H: DRG should be really comfortablewith this group as he is/was a big Terran Killer... on the other hand Bomber, Polt and Gumiho are strong opponents. I mainly remember MMA vs MVP as relatively lackluster TvT games with MMA devising a smart set of build orders that catch MVP offguard. Lots of 2 raxes, factory proxies, early busts. They were good series, but not exactly the best games. Great code S line-up this season tho, hasn't been this stacked in ages. | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Fleuria
England466 Posts
Rest are pretty scary | ||
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Eire_91
Ireland82 Posts
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Naniwa and squirtle SHOULD it out of that group fine. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: G is by far the easiest with H Rest are pretty scary How is H easy? 2 former GSL champions, a consistant Code S player in Gumiho and a rising Bomber who at one point could lay claim to being best terran in world. I would say F is easier than H. | ||
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Buchan
Canada184 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: G is by far the easiest with H Rest are pretty scary D and F are easier than G and H. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:31 TBone- wrote: If you don't vote group C only based on Jaedong you guys are doing this wrong. Some people vote with their brain (performance), more than their heart (favorite player). Hence why foreigners in GSL are heavily voted for even though they usually get stomped. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Jaedong was pretty much objectively the weakest and most unproven Zerg that MC could have chosen. Especially as MC's builds and playstyle requires precise counters instead of solid fundamentals, it's a very good idea to pick the least experienced player. I don't think he was being cocky here, however it's also a brilliant move. It definitely will appear cocky to less informed people, maintaining his image. Beating JD is also "impressive" even though as I said he's quite mediocre in SC2 and IMO not Code S level. This is judging by his past performances, though. It's possible that Jaedong just becomes a total beast in GSL, who knows. | ||
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Finlux
Norway35 Posts
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:48 InoyouS2 wrote: Group E I'll predict Mvp TaeJa, since MMA has a weakness in PvT. MMA's tvp has improved leaps and bounds since the days when he almost lost to feast at IEM, he's definitely no walkover. | ||
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rave[wcr]
United States1166 Posts
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movac
Canada494 Posts
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United Kingdom676 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:42 Alryk wrote: Wow. Mana. I think he will get third or second in his group. First would be rather difficult, unless he can do it by avoiding taeja (beats mma, taeja loses to mvp, then beats mma while mana beats mvp and then beats mma) Naniwa and squirtle SHOULD it out of that group fine. Mana has to play Taeja first | ||
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Rhu
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bosnia
Canada223 Posts
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patronage
Iraq123 Posts
wow, that is going to be epic. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:42 Alryk wrote: Naniwa and squirtle SHOULD it out of that group fine. I disagree, I think Naniwa's in a lot of trouble. Say he beats heart (which he should) and squirtle beats Sniper. Odds are that Sniper makes it to the final match and so if Naniwa can't beat squirtle in pvp then he probably won't make it. Given that Squirtle holds the ELO record for best PvP in the world, that won't be all that easy. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RhR9m.png) The champion, Seed gets the first pick. Seed's strongest matchup is also PvZ at 64%, compared to his 56% against Terran and 48% against Protoss. Out of the zergs there is Suhosin, Life and Jaedong. Life is clearly the best Zerg out of these 3, and Jaedong is a bit of a wild card because he is training in two games, yet can potentially become very good if he focuses on SC2. Furthermore, there is not as much research material on JD because of his lack of games available to study. That leaves Suhosin who was clearly the weakest player in this list - barely scraping through Up and Downs yesterday thanks to Shine's win. This brings us to the runner up, MC. MC's strongest matchup is PvP at 65%, compared to 61% PvZ and 58% PvT. Out of the protoss he could have picked, there was Sun and Mana. Sun has been looking extremely strong lately in the OSL and WCS Korea, so that would be a silly choice. Mana would be a good choice, however PvP has always been a coinflip and would be considered dangerous. That left his second best matchup, PvZ. With Suhosin already picked, that left Jaedong and Life. Again Jaedong is a bit of a wild card, but I bet that MC was banking on the fact that JD isn't as experienced, as well as the glory of beating a broodwar legend. All in all, the 2 choices were both reasonable. Looking at the Terrans in tier 4 for a sec, Bomber is looking like he is picking up his pace again, so that would be a bad choice. Heart isn't bad and many of the iM players are saying that Yoda is on fire lately. But the most obvious thing is that both Seed and MC prefer other match ups over Terran. | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
Foreigners will be most interested in seeing JD, Naniwa and Mana and hope they all advance, but they are all in hard groups | ||
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DaPhoToss
Canada14 Posts
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Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
Go MMA!! | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Cenja
Sweden498 Posts
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HowardRoark
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
JD will have a hard time to, but sick groups overall actualy, high quality of play in all. | ||
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kju
6143 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:18 HowardRoark wrote: How come Flash is not in, if JD got an invite to code S? based on PL rankings and flash had not the best results yet | ||
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MauliSchaumi
Germany21 Posts
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ZeBigMarn
Australia30 Posts
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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Kogan
Germany84 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:30 Kogan wrote: I'm so sad :'( jaedong marineking and mc in one one group...i want them all to advance at least one of them WILL advance  better way of looking at it | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:02 bosnia wrote: thought mma wasnt in slayers anymore? you're thinking of boxer =/ | ||
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Gorilla23
United States339 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:07 Incomplet wrote: Ok well lets look at who the champion and runner up (Seed & MC) could have chosen: The champion, Seed gets the first pick. Seed's strongest matchup is also PvZ at 64%, compared to his 56% against Terran and 48% against Protoss. Out of the zergs there is Suhosin, Life and Jaedong. Life is clearly the best Zerg out of these 3, and Jaedong is a bit of a wild card because he is training in two games, yet can potentially become very good if he focuses on SC2. Furthermore, there is not as much research material on JD because of his lack of games available to study. That leaves Suhosin who was clearly the weakest player in this list - barely scraping through Up and Downs yesterday thanks to Shine's win. This brings us to the runner up, MC. MC's strongest matchup is PvP at 65%, compared to 61% PvZ and 58% PvT. Out of the protoss he could have picked, there was Sun and Mana. Sun has been looking extremely strong lately in the OSL and WCS Korea, so that would be a silly choice. Mana would be a good choice, however PvP has always been a coinflip and would be considered dangerous. That left his second best matchup, PvZ. With Suhosin already picked, that left Jaedong and Life. Again Jaedong is a bit of a wild card, but I bet that MC was banking on the fact that JD isn't as experienced, as well as the glory of beating a broodwar legend. All in all, the 2 choices were both reasonable. Looking at the Terrans in tier 4 for a sec, Bomber is looking like he is picking up his pace again, so that would be a bad choice. Heart isn't bad and many of the iM players are saying that Yoda is on fire lately. But the most obvious thing is that both Seed and MC prefer other match ups over Terran. Also, JD had been practicing a bit with MC. MC probably did pretty well against him in practice to pick him here. I haven't seen all of JD's SC2 ZvP, but in the games I can remember, he looked weak at it. | ||
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MIKster
Germany333 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
 Heart YoDa  MaNa  JaedongLife By.SunI'd say Yoda, Life and maybe Rain have chances to make it deep if they get some momentum building up. What do you guys think? | ||
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Tayar
United States1439 Posts
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
I can't see the elephants getting through unless they impress. Also they won't be on blizzard ladder maps anymore. Parting will have to skill up for this code s, mana is the one who gets to be the pvt sniper this round. Genius happy rain looks pretty safe group. Every group is scary as fuck though. Can't help but think about how nested is not gonna make it through. Drg should be through, or maybe gumiho will be godiho Edit: group a sux. My fav players leenock and parting aren't that favored to make it through | ||
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Cowman
United States13 Posts
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
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Lewan72
United States381 Posts
I hope MC MMA and Bomber wreck their groups. | ||
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GooZ
Chile10 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:53 ACrow wrote: Btw potential Royal Road candidates this season are: Heart YoDa MaNa JaedongLife By.SunI'd say Yoda, Life and maybe Rain have chances to make it deep if they get some momentum building up. What do you guys think? Royal Road is only OSL my friend. | ||
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NKexquisite
United States911 Posts
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NKexquisite
United States911 Posts
They use the same term in GSL... Remember Squirtle? | ||
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lookfirewood
1212 Posts
Sun is Rain? Oh I c. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:06 lookfirewood wrote: Where is Sun? Group D under the alias Rain. | ||
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Kingsky
Singapore298 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:05 NKexquisite wrote: They use the same term in GSL... Remember Squirtle? "Walking the Royal Road refers to a rookie winning an OSL on their first qualified appearance." - Liquipedia | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Call it "guy who is in the tournament for the first time and has a shot at the title" then if you have the urge to reserve it for OSL. I personally find that way a little too cumbersome a way to say, but w/e. | ||
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Black17
France435 Posts
It's so stacked right now, but I'd have loved to see what Stephano could do there | ||
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
If he can make it through that group he is undoubtedly the best foreign protoss imo. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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SolarJto
United States260 Posts
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
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whirlpool
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TyrionSC2
United States411 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On September 01 2012 18:11 Avicularia wrote: Oh my.... Mana vs King of Terrans, Legend of Terrans and Best Terran in the World in this group... This will be sooo hard. Naniwa should get out of his group. Heart is a bit cheesy, so I guess it's ok, Sniper is not the best zerg there, Naniwa was doing ok with his PvP in GSL. Why did you mention Mvp 3 times? Also Group H is pretty underrated. | ||
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convention
United States622 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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StarGalaxy
Germany744 Posts
This is the sickest Code S ever. Mana's group lol. Let's say it's a challenge. | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Friend: Hey, how does your tournament look next week? Who's in your group? Group C Player: Oh... well, Jaedong is in my group. Also MC and MarineKing, and that protoss guy Curious everyone talks about. Friend: Oh...oh... I'm going to go stand over here....And you might want to change your pants. | ||
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arfyron
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
"Best Terran in the World" Doesnt describe Mvp. | ||
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
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Amornthep
Singapore2605 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Well Mana you wanted code S here it is,best of luck. Hoping for an MMA comeback or a Polt consecration this time :D | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:34 TommyP wrote: "Best Terran in the World" Doesnt describe Mvp. It does, but this is not the place to discuss this. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
#1 his PvT is very good and the only matchup he needs to prepare for #2 MMA and MVP both have looked pretty mediocre as of late #3 Taeja TvP isn't really impressive either He has very good chances even if he's not a favorite to go through. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:41 ES.Genie wrote: It does, but this is not the place to discuss this. TaeJa's play is lightyears ahead of Mvp's right now. Did you watch OSL and WCG this past week? and have you watched TaeJa play all summer? | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote: Everyone acting like Mana got the shortest straw? #1 his PvT is very good and the only matchup he needs to prepare for #2 MMA and MVP both have looked pretty mediocre as of late #3 Taeja TvP isn't really impressive either He has very good chances even if he's not a favorite to go through. You mean Mvp looked mediocre while winning IEM like 2 weeks ago? Also Taejas TvP is matched by almost no other terran and it's not even his best matchup. | ||
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
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Testuser
6469 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + MANAAAA T______T | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
OMG I'M SO FUCKIN HYPED! PASS HAS BEEN AQUIRED! also, why is T-zain not listed in the Code A list? | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Will be interesting to see how Jaedong and By.Sun will fare. Hope both TaeJa and HerO will advance! | ||
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niuage
United States175 Posts
This season looks amazing by the way... Plus having JD in code S is so good. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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MistSC2
Sweden583 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:58 Proseat wrote: So TaeJa picked MaNa and then got served with MMA and Mvp? Oh well. xD Will be interesting to see how Jaedong and By.Sun will fare. Hope both TaeJa and HerO will advance! only MC/Seed had the ability to pick players | ||
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Zambrah
United States7288 Posts
MaNa is gonna be stocked about only having to practice one matchup, he can feasible defeat any of them, I can't wait to see that group play out. DRG is in the same boat, only needs to practice one matchup, so hopefully he gets his groove back and starts CRUSHING MOTHERFUCKERS! Bomber just needs to not be in great shape for DRG to really have that chance, same for Gumiho. MC's group looks awesome for MC, he should be able to annihilate Jaedong like nothing, assuming he doesn't let any weird ling all ins early on end him. :> Same for Curious, I have to favor MC heavily there. MarineKing... shit, I don't even know what to make of him anymore, in his Prime (ha) I would pick him as the favorite, but now... I'm not sure. JYP and Supernova should get out of their group, NesTea has just seemed mediocre vT and Supernova > JYP > Zergs, so I can see JYP and Supernova having the edge in that group. Byun, Rain, Happy, Genius... lordy, lordy, what do I even make of this group... Well, Byun and Genius are my picks, Happy is all over the god damn place but I have to follow my heart in Genius and Byun is just really, really good so I feel like hes got an excellent shot. This group seems hard to predict though, so I'll tread lightly. HerO needs to crush YoDa. Annihilate him, stomp him into the dust and then twist his heel, I want HerO to obliterate YoDa. And, uh, Ryung should be in good shape in this group, Ryung and Symbol would be my picks assuming Symbol is playing well. Could go differently, but yeah. | ||
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Citherna
United States33 Posts
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
I must be the only one who thinks group A is one of the hardest groups. Seed is IMO the best in the world right now. Leenock looked fantastic at MLG and Parting has looked great as usual. Suhosin will keep them on their toes and bring some great cheeses to the table. I don't see anyone either then Seed and Lennock advancing seeing as Parting's PvZ is meh and they should be prepared for SuHo's tactics. Also this is MaNa's chance. MMA is still pretty weak at TvP, MVP has looked terrible in his recent matches and all of Taeja's recent loses have come versus Protoss. If he was in any other group he would get destroyed. He needs to make the most of this. | ||
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:58 Telcontar wrote: I love how people still doubt MVP after how he's proven them wrong, time and time again. I guess they just have really bad memories. He has also proven people who doubt him right time and time again. He is inconsistent at best and has lost enough matches to warrant people betting against him. | ||
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BigBossX
United Kingdom357 Posts
Mvp to fucking win it all!!!!! | ||
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:16 BigBossX wrote: Is it too early to make predictions for group E? aah fuck its Mana>MMA MMA>Mvp Mvp>Mana Mvp>Taeja Taeja>Mana MMA>Taeja Mana 1-2 MMA 2-1 Mvp 2-1 Taeja 2-1 fuck knows about tie breaker but Mvp and either Taeja or MMA to go through Mvp to fucking win it all!!!!! it doesn't work like ups and downs dude. | ||
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BigBossX
United Kingdom357 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:18 Doubting wrote: it doesn't work like ups and downs dude. oh my bad? please explain, i thought top 2 players make it out of groups and enter knockout rounds? | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:20 BigBossX wrote: oh my bad? please explain, i thought top 2 players make it out of groups and enter knockout rounds? First match : 2 pairs (don't remember if they are randomly chosen or not) play. Winners in the first match play a match. Losers in the first match play a match. Loser of Losers go to Code A. Winner of Winners go to Ro16 Loser of Winners and winner of Loser play a match. Winner advances, loser to Code A. | ||
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ColtraneL
France248 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:20 BigBossX wrote: oh my bad? please explain, i thought top 2 players make it out of groups and enter knockout rounds? Mana plays Taeja. Mvp plays MMA. Winner's match design the first to advance. Then there is the loser's match, and the winner plays the loser of the winner's match for the second spot. I'm really hyped for this GSL. I'm rooting for Mvp as usual, but there are so many players I love in this tournament that I'm going to look forward to every single group in the RO32. With such stacked groups, I'm pretty sure that we're going to have some big upsets. | ||
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Blacktion
United Kingdom1148 Posts
DRG on the other hand must be loving his group. | ||
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BigBossX
United Kingdom357 Posts
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MCMXVI
Norway1193 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:20 BigBossX wrote: oh my bad? please explain, i thought top 2 players make it out of groups and enter knockout rounds? Mvp will play Mana, and MMA will play Taeja. Winner of both those matches will play, and the winner of that match will advance. The loser will play the winner of the losers-match. The loser of the loser-match will be in code A, and the winner of the last match will advance to code S, and the loser of this last match will fall down to code A. Ugh.. someone needs to explain this better :p | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:55 Testuser wrote: Mana is sooo lucky, getting his best match-up three times!! Come on! + Show Spoiler + MANAAAA T______T lol I wouldn't call it luck vsing MVP, MMA and Taeja. (unless you were being sarcastic) | ||
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ColtraneL
France248 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:27 MCMXVI wrote: Mvp will play Mana, and MMA will play Taeja. Winner of both those matches will play, and the winner of that match will advance. The loser will play the winner of the losers-match. The loser of the loser-match will be in code A, and the winner of the last match will advance to code S, and the loser of this last match will fall down to code A. Ugh.. someone needs to explain this better :p I think you've got the order wrong, because if we refer to the first page, the first matches should be Taeja vs Mana and Mvp vs Mana. Tier 1 players play against Tier 4 players. | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
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tuho12345
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
Also: Taeja FIGHTING!!!! | ||
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duckmaster
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:37 Kommatiazo wrote: GROUPS ARE SO AMAZING. I wish I was in Korea for this. MaNa will hopefully represent for foreigners, and making out of Group E would be quite a feat for him. But man, there isn't a group that's like pssh ____'s got that one in the bag. They're all pretty rough. But Group E.... that's on another level. Honestly I would have expected those players to play in the Ro8/16 or something. Also: Taeja FIGHTING!!!! A b c and h are stronger than group e imho | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
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trGKakarot
United States129 Posts
The only thing not amazing about this GSL is the end of the tournament being at IPL... | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:42 sam05396 wrote: A b c and h are stronger than group e imho Group E has 6 combined GSL titles, 3 combined MLG titles, Dreamhack, Iron Squid, and every player is the most accomplished on their respective teams, and not to mention TaeJa has some of the sickest momentum we have ever seen atm | ||
nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:27 MCMXVI wrote: Mvp will play Mana, and MMA will play Taeja. Winner of both those matches will play, and the winner of that match will advance. The loser will play the winner of the losers-match. The loser of the loser-match will be in code A, and the winner of the last match will advance to code S, and the loser of this last match will fall down to code A. Ugh.. someone needs to explain this better :p The idea is that each player will end with either 2 looses or 2 wins and they matching is made in a way to finish playins ASAP. Phase one everyone is 0/0 so just people play against each other. Phase two: two players are 1-0 and two are 0-1 so they play within subgroups. After that one player advances (2-0) and one is knocked out (0-2). Phase three is a match between the only remaining players: both are 1-1 at this point. The winner (2-1) advances while loser (1-2) is knocked out. Plain and simple. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:54 trGKakarot wrote: This season is incredibly stacked! The only thing not amazing about this GSL is the end of the tournament being at IPL... That changed to Season 5 and it's only Semis + Finals now. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
It is filled with so many great players....... BUY A PASS, NAW ! | ||
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:56 MasterKang wrote: Group E has 6 combined GSL titles, 3 combined MLG titles, Dreamhack, Iron Squid, and every player is the most accomplished on their respective teams, and not to mention TaeJa has some of the sickest momentum we have ever seen atm Well if we are naming the group of death on past achievements then every group MVP has been in the past 5 seasons is the group of death every time | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On September 02 2012 01:56 MasterKang wrote: Group E has 6 combined GSL titles, 3 combined MLG titles, Dreamhack, Iron Squid, and every player is the most accomplished on their respective teams, and not to mention TaeJa has some of the sickest momentum we have ever seen atm That's the past though. MMA is not as scary as he used to be (which is a shame because he has a very entertaining playstyle T_T). MaNa is one of the weaker of all the 32 players. MVP and Taeja are the clear favourites here so dunno how it could be a grp of death. If we compare it to group A: Taeja and Seed is both kind of at a equal skill lvl. MVP and Leenock both coming from two big foreign tournament wins. But Parting and Suhosin is better than Mana and MMA at this point. If MMA is back at the level he used to be half a year ago then yeah this would be a way harder group. But MMA can barely keep himself in Code S (he wasn't even in Code S last season). Grp E is filled with big names, but the way they are playing at this very moment, grp A is harder. | ||
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MonsterJukeBox
35 Posts
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
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sam05396
United States783 Posts
On September 02 2012 02:02 DrPandaPhD wrote: That's the past though. MMA is not as scary as he used to be (which is a shame because he has a very entertaining playstyle T_T). MaNa is one of the weaker of all the 32 players. MVP and Taeja are the clear favourites here so dunno how it could be a grp of death. If we compare it to group A: Taeja and Seed is both kind of at a equal skill lvl. MVP and Leenock both coming from two big foreign tournament wins. But Parting and Suhosin is better than Mana and MMA at this point. If MMA is back at the level he used to be half a year ago then yeah this would be a way harder group. But MMA can barely keep himself in Code S (he wasn't even in Code S last season). Grp E is filled with big names, but the way they are playing at this very moment, grp A is harder. Many would disagree but I think, seed is stronger than taeja right now, and that leenock is slightly slightly better than mvp | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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MangoSnap
United States184 Posts
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Vandrad
Germany951 Posts
Looks pretty sick mang | ||
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Ambre
France416 Posts
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On September 02 2012 02:26 Burns wrote: Jaedong in the group of death noooo No he's not - MaNa is stuck with 3 players who have been the best player in the world at some time in the last 10 months, 2 of which in the last 3 months!LG-IM with 5 players and Startale with 6 - such strong teams! | ||
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
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Thurken
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
Still, Group E is GoD. | ||
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Seiferz
United States640 Posts
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ref4
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unteqair
United States308 Posts
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urasyupi2
United States810 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
And seriously, group E! I hope I don't miss it. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On September 02 2012 02:29 HolyArrow wrote: I feel like Mana got a nice draw here. IIRC PvT is his best MU so he can just solely focus on that while all his opponents have to worry about 2 MUs, not to mention they're all probably going to have to put tons of practice into their TvT given how strong every Terran in that group is. If this was in EU or NA i would agree. Mana himself stated that his PvT in korea is horrible and his PvZ is insane good. Basicaly a 180 of his western stats. So Mana is basically screwed. | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
Id say this might be the first time all 32 players are in the worlds top 40. | ||
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
Nice to see the proper dudes in Code S! | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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Swisslink
2952 Posts
On September 02 2012 02:02 DrPandaPhD wrote: That's the past though. MMA is not as scary as he used to be (which is a shame because he has a very entertaining playstyle T_T). MaNa is one of the weaker of all the 32 players. MVP and Taeja are the clear favourites here so dunno how it could be a grp of death. If we compare it to group A: Taeja and Seed is both kind of at a equal skill lvl. MVP and Leenock both coming from two big foreign tournament wins. But Parting and Suhosin is better than Mana and MMA at this point. If MMA is back at the level he used to be half a year ago then yeah this would be a way harder group. But MMA can barely keep himself in Code S (he wasn't even in Code S last season). Grp E is filled with big names, but the way they are playing at this very moment, grp A is harder. "MMA is not scary as he used to be"? WHEN was MMA scary in a TvP? It was just... not really Code S level. MVP/Taeja might be hard for MaNa, but if MMA han't improved a lot in the last few month - winning against MMA shouldn't be too much of a problem in this matchup, imo. | ||
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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Vaftrudner
Sweden1185 Posts
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On September 02 2012 02:02 DrPandaPhD wrote: That's the past though. MMA is not as scary as he used to be (which is a shame because he has a very entertaining playstyle T_T). MaNa is one of the weaker of all the 32 players. MVP and Taeja are the clear favourites here so dunno how it could be a grp of death. If we compare it to group A: Taeja and Seed is both kind of at a equal skill lvl. MVP and Leenock both coming from two big foreign tournament wins. But Parting and Suhosin is better than Mana and MMA at this point. If MMA is back at the level he used to be half a year ago then yeah this would be a way harder group. But MMA can barely keep himself in Code S (he wasn't even in Code S last season). Grp E is filled with big names, but the way they are playing at this very moment, grp A is harder. Go watch MMA's Code A matches where he demolished Hero and Violet liek they were nothing, your eyes will be opened to his current "level" | ||
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Dexington
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adriftt
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B: Hero Ryung C: MC MKP (hoping for JD) D: Byun Rain E: Taeja MMA F: Squirtle Nani G: Nestea Supernova D: DRG Bomber gonna be amazing. I think nani got pretty lucky.. F looks like the easiest group to me. Heart never impresses me and Sniper is pretty good but not great | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
Group A... two monstrous Tosses and Leenock is basically going to be Suhoshin trolling everyone's Liquid bets and somehow winning his group with nerd baller cheese. Group B... Symbol/Ryung or Ryung/Yoda Group C... I don't even know. The obvious bets should be MC/MKP, but MKP can be so hit or miss. JD can surprise him, but Curious has good ZvZ, and I don't think JD is ready for MCvZ. Still rooting for the Dong though. Group D... Genius and Byun should have this pretty easily. Group E... mother of god. I have no predictions. I really don't. Group F... Naniwa and Squirtle should easily win this. Weakest group imo. Group G... JYPvZ against Nestea(God) and Life... Life vs Nestea ZvZ... and the always underrated Supernova... I'm going with Life and Supernova. Group H... DongRaeGu vs Terran. Bomber can look like a Code S champion and a Code B reject at any time. Polt has absurd TvZ, and Gumibear cannot be looked down upon. Going with DRG/Polt. This is the most ridiculous Code S ever. | ||
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
Seed/LennockB - Symbol/RyungC - MC/CuriousD - Rain/ByuNE - MaNa/TaeJaF - Sniper/SquirtleG - SuperNova/LifeD - Bomber/GuMihovery very confident in A/C/F predictions. The rest I am not for sure on | ||
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Canada981 Posts
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On September 02 2012 03:42 Doubting wrote: Everyone going nuts over group E for some reason MVP - 4 time GSL champion MMA - GSL Champion Taeja - probably best Terran in the world right now Mana - foreigner hope, and claims PvT is his best match up How are we supposed to not be going nuts? | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
I'll gladly eat my words if he dominates the group because I like him and want him to run deep again, but I don't don't see it happening. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
윤영서 @LiquidTaeJa GSL group E is hell? 1:39 AM - 1 Sep 12 Hot_Bid @Hot_Bid @LiquidTaeJa Taeja easy group right!??! 1:43 AM - 1 Sep 12 Victor Goossens @LiquidNazgul @LiquidTaeJa then you are the devil 1:50 AM - 1 Sep 12 | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
Has a foreigner ever gotten a below average group? Even back in Jinro and Idras runs, seems like every time they get MVP + some other gosu in their group or get pitted against other foreigners straight away. Poor Mana Thou I believe he will make it out of the group :D | ||
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Mauldo
United States750 Posts
But still, awesome groups! Looking forward to the games. | ||
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IceFire
United States183 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 02 2012 03:46 Flonomenalz wrote: MVP - 4 time GSL champion MMA - GSL Champion Taeja - probably best Terran in the world right now Mana - foreigner hope, and claims PvT is his best match up How are we supposed to not be going nuts? MVP - Recently terrible, especially in TvP. You may bring up IEM but that was practically all TvZs MMA - Hasn't played his best for a long time Taeja - Best player in the group right now by far. Still overrated MaNa - Average foreigner, wouldn't be in code S if not for BO1 U/D format This is not one of the top groups in current skill level. Taeja will dominate and the other three will fight for second. | ||
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 02 2012 04:19 vol_ wrote: wow.. every group looks sick! Has a foreigner ever gotten a below average group? Even back in Jinro and Idras runs, seems like every time they get MVP + some other gosu in their group or get pitted against other foreigners straight away. Poor Mana Thou I believe he will make it out of the group :DNaniwa's groups are always kinda meh. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
MMA lies inbetween however has a better win record against MVP. Mana's best matchup is PvT, however he mentioned in a recent interview that he struggles against Terrans since going to KR. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
On September 02 2012 04:29 Incomplet wrote: TvT is actually Taeja's worst match up where as TvT is MVP's best matchup. MMA lies inbetween however has a better win record against MVP. Mana's best matchup is PvT, however he mentioned in a recent interview that he struggles against Terrans since going to KR. Korean Terrans are a whole different race :p | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On September 02 2012 04:19 Mauldo wrote: Wait, Naniwa is teamless? Did I miss something? But still, awesome groups! Looking forward to the games. Dude, he's been off Quantic for quite some time now. He was sponsored by some company (It's Mionix, had to look it up) to be flown out to IEM as a "one time deal with possibilities". He then proceeded to go down 0-1 in maps on his first round open bracket game on stream, flipped out and demanded that the rest of the game be played off stream. Ended up losing 0-2, blamed JYP on twitter for "touching him" and got bounced out by YongHwa in losers bracket. After something like that, I don't see any team or company in a hurry to pick him up... Do you? | ||
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
On September 02 2012 04:35 ShakkaFL wrote: Korean Terrans are a whole different race :p Taeja is a whole different race of Terran. Taeja's TvP has always been the scariest one on display. MvP is cunning enough shown by his late run through nani and parting. MMA ... should be great at TvP but has some sort of mental issue in that matchup. Either way Mana is screwed. It's a real toss up among the terrans to come out. I think Taeja is due a deep deep ro4 GSL run this time, but that's a scary group by all accounts and Mana definitely could nick a vital game of someone there. | ||
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PollarRabbit
Turkey14 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 02 2012 04:37 Dosey wrote: Dude, he's been off Quantic for quite some time now. He was sponsored by some company (It's Mionix, had to look it up) to be flown out to IEM as a "one time deal with possibilities". He then proceeded to go down 0-1 in maps on his first round open bracket game on stream, flipped out and demanded that the rest of the game be played off stream. Ended up losing 0-2, blamed JYP on twitter for "touching him" and got bounced out by YongHwa in losers bracket. After something like that, I don't see any team or company in a hurry to pick him up... Do you? Well Naniwas has always been a sore loser BM kind of player and Quantic kept with him. Maybe they will take him back if he can't find a team. The only other high profile team I see picking him up is EG. | ||
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crbox
Canada1180 Posts
edit: Also they sabotaged mana by putting him in that top Terran stacked group rofl | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On September 02 2012 04:48 Doubting wrote: Well Naniwas has always been a sore loser BM kind of player and Quantic kept with him. Maybe they will take him back if he can't find a team. The only other high profile team I see picking him up is EG. That won't ever happen. Naniwa doesn't have the personality. He's not engaging, he's not fun, he's not good at giving the sponsors publicity, he doesn't stream... There's no upside for them. | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On September 02 2012 05:00 iGoTThiZ wrote: I hate when they stack some of the groups then have groups with so-so players. It's dumb to have the good players drop out so early. I'm pretty sure they make the groups randomly | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 02 2012 05:00 iGoTThiZ wrote: I hate when they stack some of the groups then have groups with so-so players. It's dumb to have the good players drop out so early. This is like the only gsl (aside from perhaps season 1 of 2012) where there are stacked groups WITH sick distribution as well to ensure quality games in later rounds. A few groups are especially stacked like E, C, and A (minus Line) but every group has great players that can advance and make things interesting still. You know it's good when you can't decide the group of death. Someone said it before but it's more like the gsl of death this season. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On September 02 2012 04:24 Doubting wrote: MVP - Recently terrible, especially in TvP. You may bring up IEM but that was practically all TvZs MMA - Hasn't played his best for a long time Taeja - Best player in the group right now by far. Still overrated MaNa - Average foreigner, wouldn't be in code S if not for BO1 U/D format This is not one of the top groups in current skill level. Taeja will dominate and the other three will fight for second. And soon you will be proven wrong! Calling it! Code S finals, HerO vs Taeja !! | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On September 02 2012 05:20 NeMeSiS3 wrote: And soon you will be proven wrong! Calling it! Code S finals, HerO vs Taeja !! I call MMA vs DRG/MVP rematch | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Please come true! | ||
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Frex
Finland888 Posts
We have waited long enough, it's time for an another TvT finals! | ||
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PuercoPop
Peru277 Posts
. Sick Games coming nonetheless | ||
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MrF
United States320 Posts
 The whole code S is stacked honestly this will be exiting. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On September 02 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote: I'm pretty sure they make the groups randomly They do. They categorize the players into 4 tiers based on points and put one of each tier randomly in each group (except winner and runner-up of last season being able to hand-pick their tier 4 oponent). | ||
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StaplerPhone
United States813 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
1. A 2. C 3. H 4. D 5. B 6. E 7. F 8. G | ||
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CeriseCherries
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2218 Posts
Dont get all the hype about group E, Taeja and Mvp clearly advance, MMA still is in a slump and mana... well he lost 3-0 to hack who is not really that top notch so i dont see him taking a single series here, maybe a game off MMA but that's it. | ||
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omgimonfire15
United States233 Posts
- After this procedure, 8 groups of 4 are formed * First, the previous season’s champion select s a player from Tier 4 for his group * After that, the previous season’s runner-up will select a player from Tier 4 for his group * The remaining players will be randomly distributed among the groups * After this procedure we will have 8 groups of 4 players, each from a different tier Remember that except the first two picks, everything else is random. But Mana's group looks pretty scary, and Jaedong has an epic group. Now though, every group at a minor tournament would look like a group of death lol. | ||
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KoRDragoon
Sweden63 Posts
JD hwaiiithing | ||
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SilentVico
United States128 Posts
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On September 02 2012 06:51 SilentVico wrote: So MC picked Jaedong. Is there a rivalry forming between the two? MC is going for the rivalry with all of kespa since he is the "kespa killer" | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
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GeNeSiDe
United Kingdom354 Posts
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
SOOO EXCITED | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On September 02 2012 06:51 SilentVico wrote: So MC picked Jaedong. Is there a rivalry forming between the two? mc is suicide toss remember? Picking mvp, picking flash, picking jaedong. This is what he does mang | ||
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 02 2012 06:51 SilentVico wrote: So MC picked Jaedong. Is there a rivalry forming between the two? no he didn't lol. Only top 2 get to pick. | ||
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oskuboi
Finland72 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:02 oskuboi wrote: no flash? sorry i havent been reading the latest news but im still asking: why? He's 6-8 in Proleague. | ||
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Kentredenite
United States220 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:01 Doubting wrote: no he didn't lol. Only top 2 get to pick. MC was the runner-up last season if you've forgotten... | ||
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usethis2
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:05 usethis2 wrote: Rofl. Zerg massacre on the way (and Z QQ soon after) Everyone will veto Whirlwind v. Z and the rest of map pool is just.. Haha. At least I can hope to see less QQ on TL. (Queen OP, Infestor OP, etc.) ? Symbol, Curious, Life, DRG, Nestea, Sniper and even JD stand a decent to good chance of advancing. What's wrong with the map pool? Metropolis and Atlantis are apparently gone, so the map pool seems a bit more reasonable this time around for everyone. | ||
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zedrOne
France471 Posts
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:15 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ? Symbol, Curious, Life, DRG, Nestea, Sniper and even JD stand a decent to good chance of advancing. What's wrong with the map pool? Metropolis and Atlantis are apparently gone, so the map pool seems a bit more reasonable this time around for everyone. Let's wait and see. I am not complaining. (Toss here and looking at the new map and all I can think of is blink.. blink.. blink..) | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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usethis2
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Add the shitty map pool for Z and I see one or two (at most) Z's by Ro8. Again, I am not talking about balance. Simply predicting what's likely to happen. I, though, think the balance whine @TL is quite ridiculous. (I mean, look at the "Designated Balance Thread" or "Situation Report" thread, etc. I read PlayXP and there is no one complaining about queens/infestors there. TL is like a different planet) | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:25 usethis2 wrote: Oh and symbol = patchzerg. Curious = kind of dumb, Nestea = his game sense hit the ceiling long time ago (or rather, everyone else caught up with him by now) Please do not call Symbol a patchzerg, he was up and coming long before the patch. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:24 usethis2 wrote: Let's wait and see. I am not complaining. (Toss here and looking at the new map and all I can think of is blink.. blink.. blink..)Zerg bitch and moan about Terran on maps where they only have a 49% win ratio because they're so used to 55%+. The idea that any map is significantly against Zerg right now is laughable. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
Only maps Z beat P/T: Whirlwind, Daybreak, Atlantis Spaceship The rest: Ohana, Cloud Kingdom, Antiga, Entomed Valley, etc. Said that, Gom is doing its best to keep the racial balance through maps. I am just seeing a tough season for Z this time. Next season Gom will likely change the map pool again depending on how the new one (plus existing ones) turns out. And 2 months from now, TL will still be discussing the OPness of queens. > | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
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trada
Germany347 Posts
godd luck to Mana, I hope his PvT will keep him alive. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
I'm not really concerned with balance either, merely the quality of the certain Zergs against the players we currently know they'll be facing in the ro32 (ro16 has a possibility of thinning the numbers if we're including that too). - Symbol is a patchzerg? I don't believe this is the first time you've made this statement. So I'm calling you on it. Explain. - People have said Nestea was finished for a long time and yet just last season he made the ro8. The area I'm pretty sure is ok to write him off on at this point is ZvT as he's had a prolonged period of terrible games in that mu. I'd still trust him enough to beat most Zerg and Protoss currently in code S though. - Life I can see in ro8, might be a bit of a stretch but not terribly unlikely. He's been a good upcomer for awhile now. The fact that he's so young, has gained Startale to practice with, and has a good mix of fundamentals and unpredictability leads me to expect good things from him this season. ro16 at the very least. - DRG is fine. - Curious, Sniper, I'll concede a little on as not being anything beyond ro16 material. While Jaedong remains a wildcard to me. The mechanics from him are great but he still has some work to do in other areas, don't know if he'll get it together in time.. I maintain that the maps overall are fine for Zerg. The only ones of real note are Ohana against both P/T, Entombed against protoss, and Antiga against Terran. | ||
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Bedrock
United States395 Posts
GOOD LUCK GRZEGORZ I BELIEVE IN YOU!!!! | ||
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!Shikamaru
Germany21 Posts
Why do MarineKing, MC and Jaedong have to be in one group? That's just not cool, guys.. I want them all to go far... MKP und MC are easily my two favourite SC2-Players, while Jaedong.. no words needed..! Well played GSL... You have me thinking about buying a pass here! | ||
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 02 2012 08:05 Kentredenite wrote: MC was the runner-up last season if you've forgotten... :o Sorry lol. The finals were so forgettable I forgot he was there. | ||
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Sweden137 Posts
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usethis2
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Knowing volatility of SC2, I look at most up-and-comers with a dose of skepticism. Symbol won half of his Code S matches last season by doing roach/ling rushes when Terrans did not adjust to the patch and kept doing their 4 hellion builds. So this season he can prove that he's not a patchzerg. Otherwise, he remains a patchzerg just like IM_First is "Toss of the month." Nestea still can win, sure, so can many other zergs. But at the same time you probably can't deny that Nestea tends to take an easier road (by luck or otherwise) as he advances. Other zergs are quite new in Code S except Leenock/DRG, and they will likely go through the growing pain. Leenock/DRG will likely be sniped. Overall, I feel the game is pretty well balanced. I don't think anyone can confidently predict the champion this time, but I have a feeling that it's not going to be Z. A few tweaks to the map next season will be all that's going to be needed, however. (Which is all the more puzzling to see the queen/festor whines @TL.net) | ||
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Indonesia58 Posts
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Maleta
Chile150 Posts
, looks like every group for exception of maybe b and d have the potential to be a group of death, totally going to watch GSL as always and this was my first post | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
Terran group of death. | ||
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sGSuperSlinkY
United States72 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On September 02 2012 12:03 TommyP wrote: For tuesday, im mixed between OSL and GSL =[ any suggestions? Watch both, when one of your fav players is playing on one stream, watch them, when not, switch to the other. If your favorites are playing on both streams simultaneously, flip a coin. Also, watch the LRs for both tournaments. Sometimes you can get a good idea when an epic match is ongoing. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
That mana group is EPIC. Would love to see MMA/taeja/mana advance. Leaning towards MMA/mana since taeja left slayers ;; So many good groups once again, damn Code S is getting real tough these days! such great players Nestea didn't get a super hard group, hope he gets out of it! | ||
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Arirtor
China76 Posts
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holladoub
Canada32 Posts
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ex_cutd10
United States40 Posts
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AhOhitzXray
United States48 Posts
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Racetrack
Australia16 Posts
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On September 02 2012 06:22 SharkStarcraft wrote: imo group a is the hardest, Seed, PartinG and Leenock all are abolutely top notch, and suhoshin can surprise anyone with his crazy all ins, anything can happen in this group really. Dont get all the hype about group E, Taeja and Mvp clearly advance, MMA still is in a slump and mana... well he lost 3-0 to hack who is not really that top notch so i dont see him taking a single series here, maybe a game off MMA but that's it. im guessing u missed mmas code A matches | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
A) Poor Jaedong. That just looks painful. B) Group E scares me so very, very much. | ||
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muLe
Germany30 Posts
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uh-oh
Hong Kong135 Posts
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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LowEloPlayer
United States205 Posts
Symbol, Ryung, HerO plus YoDa who looked so strong in his Code A and is a player on LG-IM, so honestly can't be bad, right? | ||
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Canada3509 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On September 02 2012 23:25 LowEloPlayer wrote: Group B Symbol, Ryung, HerO plus YoDa who looked so strong in his Code A and is a player on LG-IM, so honestly can't be bad, right? When your IM teammates tell the world that you are the best player in practice, I think there are only two logical outcomes: a) You come out and crush the opposition. b) You fall to a combination of nerves and cheese. Then you come back a year later and crush the opposition. | ||
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Spain280 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
Also, haven't heard Tastosis casting for, what, a month now? It's gonna be absolutely amazing, definitely the best GSL up-to-date. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On September 02 2012 23:53 DontNerfInfestors wrote: I feel bad for the groups with 3 of each race,mirror matches suck these days Watch this first match, if you still feel that otherwise, Id have to slap you. http://www.gomtv.net/2012gstls2/vod/67636 | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
lol and Mana PvT too, actually | ||
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Nerfed
Russian Federation1132 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Heouf
Netherlands787 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
Taeja. MMA. MVP. That's gotta feel like a punch in the gut. On the bright side, only one MU to prep for! Groups C, E, and F look like they're going to be the most entertaining to watch across the board. Color me excited. | ||
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Germany902 Posts
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DontNerfInfestors
Spain280 Posts
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DontNerfInfestors
Spain280 Posts
On September 02 2012 23:58 Incomplet wrote: Watch this first match, if you still feel that otherwise, Id have to slap you. http://www.gomtv.net/2012gstls2/vod/67636 S2 isnt now,TvT isnt so bad,its PvP and ZvZ | ||
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Canada5973 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On September 03 2012 01:18 DontNerfInfestors wrote: S2 isnt now,TvT isnt so bad,its PvP and ZvZ It wasn't too long ago. As for PVP, here is your answer: MLG summer championship (group winner finals): hero vs crank (1 week ago) http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/96771-group-a-final-hero-vs-crank-game-1 WCS grand final: creator vs squirtle (2 weeks ago) Results: + Show Spoiler + Both of these go down to the final game with a lot at stake as this is the grand final & final tier of each competition. ZvZ, no particular games come to mind atm, but I'd say Violet is a player to look out for to see fun mirror matches. | ||
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Sea_aeS
1025 Posts
On September 03 2012 01:35 Incomplet wrote: It wasn't too long ago. As for PVP, here is your answer: MLG summer championship (group winner finals): hero vs crank (1 week ago) http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/96771-group-a-final-hero-vs-crank-game-1 WCS grand final: creator vs squirtle (2 weeks ago) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-Dci9aGTg&feature=relmfu Results: + Show Spoiler + Both of these go down to the final game with a lot at stake as this is the grand final & final tier of each competition. ZvZ, no particular games come to mind atm, but I'd say Violet is a player to look out for to see fun mirror matches. Violet isnt funny at all in ZvZ ... He can be very agressive in vT and vP (drops, banes, nydus) but in miror he s really "just" a solid player (maybe the best ZvZ right now ?) | ||
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Scurvy
United States117 Posts
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 03 2012 01:18 DontNerfInfestors wrote: S2 isnt now,TvT isnt so bad,its PvP and ZvZ ZvZ is fantastic, what are you talking about? So much action and excitement. | ||
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Doubting
Canada981 Posts
On September 03 2012 02:03 Sea_aeS wrote: Violet isnt funny at all in ZvZ ... He can be very agressive in vT and vP (drops, banes, nydus) but in miror he s really "just" a solid player (maybe the best ZvZ right now ?) Violet is really fun in ZvZ. He is super aggressive and does all sorts of nydus, drop play and infestor harass. Also he is no where near the best in ZvZ right now. DRG, Symbol, Life, Nestea, hell even Nerchio >>>>> | ||
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c0sm0naut
United States1229 Posts
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Sayer
United States403 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Wish JD would've gotten an easier group. | ||
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c0sm0naut
United States1229 Posts
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InoyouS2
1005 Posts
On September 03 2012 04:44 c0sm0naut wrote: has everyone forgotten about curious? i think he wil make a nice run this season People have been saying that ever since he stomped Code A last year, he seems to lose once he gets to Code S. | ||
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starception
205 Posts
in group a, parting and seed will win and idra said that zerg isnt supposed to beat protoss at the one mlg when mc asked him if he is angry in group b, yoda will win because mvp said that yoda is the best player on im and hero will make it out by beating ryung because ryung has bad tvp and he will beat symbol because he beat drg and drg > symbol in group c, mc will make it out because he has the best pvz in the world and mkp will make it out because he has the best tvz in the world. in group d, genius and rain will make it out because genius won blizzcon and made a gsl final and rain made a gsl final and also switched to a kespa team. byun might make it because he made gsl ro4 twice while happy only made it their once in group e, mma will get first because he has a winning record against mvp which means he has clearly good tvt and he can easily take down mana because mhe beat hero and hero > mana. mvp will make it out 2nd because he has a high tvt ratio so he will dominate taeja and he won his 4th gsl by beating squirtle so he will easily beat mana in group f, squirtle will get out first because he is a gsl and ipl finalist and 2nd will be naniwa because naniwa made 2 ro8 in code s which is farther than heart or sniper therefore hes a better player than those 2 in group g, nestea will make it out because he is a better zvz player than life, declared that he cant be beat in zvp, and made it farther than supernova in code s. 2nd will be life because life made a tsl 4 final either that or supernova because supernova won campus lan in group h, drg will get first because he is the best player in the world and 2nd will be polt because he is a super tournament winner | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
Group E: 66% chance to advance, MaNa cant do anythig,this is like a 3 mans group. Groups C and H are the strongers. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On September 03 2012 06:06 -IeZaeL- wrote: MaNa is freewin for all koreans,he have 0% chance. Group E: 66% chance to advance, MaNa cant do anythig,this is like a 3 mans group. Groups C and H are the strongers. If it wasn't for the clownface, I was affraid that you were actually serious with that post oO MaNa biggest threat for TaeJa in group E, pretty confident that TaeJa will win his TvT's in that group, but MaNa is looking beastly man.. I almost don't care who makes it out of this group, who ever does, earned it - bigtime. If TaeJa wins the group, I actually think he's a favorite to win this GSL - Bias included. | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 03 2012 01:18 DontNerfInfestors wrote: S2 isnt now,TvT isnt so bad,its PvP and ZvZ ZvZ is awesome to see, 1 tiny mistake can make you lose the game. Watch DRG vs Effort game 3. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On September 03 2012 06:16 ELA wrote: If it wasn't for the clownface, I was affraid that you were actually serious with that post oO MaNa biggest threat for TaeJa in group E, pretty confident that TaeJa will win his TvT's in that group, but MaNa is looking beastly man.. I almost don't care who makes it out of this group, who ever does, earned it - bigtime. If TaeJa wins the group, I actually think he's a favorite to win this GSL - Bias included. Really? I wouldn't pick any of those other three as favorites to win this thing or even favored over Taeja. Taeja beat Mvp in the same group stages last season and MMA really hasn't been a threat for a while. Mana is... a foreigner new to the GSL. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10121 Posts
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Fortunate S0n
Switzerland44 Posts
GO TaeJa! Very tough group.. this is gonna be so fun to watch! | ||
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Atrbyg
United States513 Posts
This is arguably the most competitive Code S season to date. | ||
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
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Entirety
1423 Posts
On September 03 2012 05:28 starception wrote: here are my predictions: in group a, parting and seed will win and idra said that zerg isnt supposed to beat protoss at the one mlg when mc asked him if he is angry in group b, yoda will win because mvp said that yoda is the best player on im and hero will make it out by beating ryung because ryung has bad tvp and he will beat symbol because he beat drg and drg > symbol in group c, mc will make it out because he has the best pvz in the world and mkp will make it out because he has the best tvz in the world. in group d, genius and rain will make it out because genius won blizzcon and made a gsl final and rain made a gsl final and also switched to a kespa team. byun might make it because he made gsl ro4 twice while happy only made it their once in group e, mma will get first because he has a winning record against mvp which means he has clearly good tvt and he can easily take down mana because mhe beat hero and hero > mana. mvp will make it out 2nd because he has a high tvt ratio so he will dominate taeja and he won his 4th gsl by beating squirtle so he will easily beat mana in group f, squirtle will get out first because he is a gsl and ipl finalist and 2nd will be naniwa because naniwa made 2 ro8 in code s which is farther than heart or sniper therefore hes a better player than those 2 in group g, nestea will make it out because he is a better zvz player than life, declared that he cant be beat in zvp, and made it farther than supernova in code s. 2nd will be life because life made a tsl 4 final either that or supernova because supernova won campus lan in group h, drg will get first because he is the best player in the world and 2nd will be polt because he is a super tournament winner Is this a troll post? Anyway, I think that these groups are just insane. Stacked is a good term to use, so is "ridiculous" and "groups of death" and "out of the 32, I can see any player being the champion (except SuHoSin)"... Out of the 32 players, I don't think a single player has greater than a 5% chance of winning the whole thing. This GSL Season 4 is so unbelievably stacked... In fact, you can randomly pick any two players from the pool of 32 and it'll be some sort of epic match that could create an amazing finals. In fact, to prove my point, I will do just that: My random matchup... Life vs. DongRaeGu. The master of Zerg (currently slumping) versus the up-and-coming Zerg who just recently reached the TSL 4 finals. That is a ZvZ I would want to see. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On September 03 2012 13:13 Entirety wrote: Is this a troll post? Anyway, I think that these groups are just insane. Stacked is a good term to use, so is "ridiculous" and "groups of death" and "out of the 32, I can see any player being the champion (except SuHoSin)"... Out of the 32 players, I don't think a single player has greater than a 5% chance of winning the whole thing. This GSL Season 4 is so unbelievably stacked... In fact, you can randomly pick any two players from the pool of 32 and it'll be some sort of epic match that could create an amazing finals. In fact, to prove my point, I will do just that: My random matchup... Life vs. DongRaeGu. The master of Zerg (currently slumping) versus the up-and-coming Zerg who just recently reached the TSL 4 finals. That is a ZvZ I would want to see. it's starception, so yes, a troll post lol | ||
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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LDub
25 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:01 Jlei wrote: MMA vs. MVP yay. Mana gets like the 3 hardest Terrans possible. Good luck! not "like". exactally the 3 best :D | ||
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LDub
25 Posts
On September 03 2012 05:28 starception wrote: here are my predictions: ... and 2nd will be polt because he is a super tournament winner but hes not a super player? | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
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AhOhitzXray
United States48 Posts
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
holy fuck lol mana's only chance is that he only has to work on PvT, good luck to him | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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chris5180
198 Posts
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blockade
19 Posts
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W2
United States1177 Posts
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
Would've been harder if MMA had been replaced by MKP or Polt.. or Alive | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On September 01 2012 16:13 Adreme wrote: Freaking MC every single time. I knew last night when I saw it that he was goign to pick JD but I figured maybe someone would talk some sense into him. Sorry what's illogical about this pick by MC? One of the best in the game picking a guy who has yet to grasp and understand every part of the game like he himself does? Seems like an easy choice that should've been made by anyone who picked ahead of MC. But oh well I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion even though MC did make the most logical choice. | ||
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BeastMacoy
Denmark40 Posts
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On September 04 2012 02:54 noddy wrote: Would've been harder if MMA had been replaced by MKP or Polt.. or Alive not rly | ||
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rkshox
Taiwan536 Posts
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Hypnose
Russian Federation9 Posts
taeja ftw | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
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aiuradun
Denmark115 Posts
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On September 04 2012 03:37 Catatonic wrote: Sorry what's illogical about this pick by MC? One of the best in the game picking a guy who has yet to grasp and understand every part of the game like he himself does? Seems like an easy choice that should've been made by anyone who picked ahead of MC. But oh well I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion even though MC did make the most logical choice. While it was a good pick by MC, Seed picking Suhosin was definitely the smartest choice in my opinion. Suhosin even admitted he got lucky getting into Code S, and only won game 2 because he metagamed Seed and played against his reputation. Jaedong's legendary legacy already puts him ahead of Suhosin in my book. Suhosin almost winning his series against Seed was more of a mindgame play by suhosin than him actually beating him. Plus, there's no way for Seed to know that Suhosin would play well and set up a good mindgame for him during group selection. | ||
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