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On September 04 2012 12:52 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2012 23:55 ROOTT1 wrote: love it, its the only way we can smurf. i wish everyone would have a barcode id on na =/ we could smurf by all taking the same id. the barcode id's are ugly as hell. i wish we had collectively agreed on a cooler id. but yeah at this point now it's been decided and it's the only way to smurf
Remember the time everyone wanted to use Esports to show their disdain for the new B.Net 2.0?
Heh.
Seriously, I hate the fact we can only have one i.d. and not really change it. Like I always say, players will always find a way around this shit. Not like we cannot study their hotkeys and small ticks.
This is the way we have to go about it to combat it.
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I understand why pro's would use it when laddering, for everyone else though it brings nothing good. When watching streams and they play against only barcodes it takes a lot out of it when you don't know who they are playing. You definitely get more pumped up watching a pro stream when they play a game against some other pro player that you know is good.
Also, people who use barcodes below grand master just annoys me, I guess it shouldn't but I just get that who the fuck does this guy think he is kind of feeling.
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I think its good actually, since battlenet 0.2 sucks so hard pros have to do this to remain anonymous. Bad players using barcode names dont bother me at all, their loss really, people will always copy the pros(Look at how many zergs refuse to GG because their idols dont. ), I guess it makes them feel cool.
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On September 04 2012 14:44 Xapti wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 11:51 Forikorder wrote: how does 150 people all using a barcode name make it more original then picking a random word?
they could use someonething like GLHF or Anonymous but unless everyone uses that name its pointless because people will figure out who you are eventually by playstyle and rank "oh look theres one guy named Anonymous in the top 8 GM ladder and last time i played him he used X strat and other guys said he used same strat, and we know that Y palyer always uses X strat so now we know Anonymous = Y player" but with everyone using barcode then you cant tell which barcode is who so you dont know if the barcode your playing is the same one or different its impossible to figure out whos who without an insane amount of work
barcode is just the way most people chose to hide there name it could have been anonymous or something else but with barcode you dont actually know if the name is llllllllll or if its IIIIIIIIII or if its IIIIIlllll those 3 names were all spelled differently but you cant tell it apart at all no no no! you don't understand the concept whatsoever. I'm not saying barcode itself isn't useful. If you looked at my examples of GOOD choices, a barcode name was one of them. The issue is that they aren't all using the same name — then there's a person with the name IIIIlllll and another with the name lllllllllllll, and another with the name IlIlIlIlIlIl, it's possible to distinguish them apart because while they look similar, they are not the same — a person could count the number of characters, and/or count the pattern/sequence of characters to an approximate (or precise) degree, hence identifying them better. All people who use a barcode name should be using all Is or all ls in order to be anonymous. They should also try to keep the same number of characters so that the names are identical. While the name "anonymous" would not be anonymous if you (or only a handful of people) used that name, my point was that if "Anonymous" was used instead of all these DISTINGUISHABLE barcode names (because they're not all the same), then people would have better privacy. It's all about having the same name. There is absolutely no benefit (it's actually a hinderance) to have different names which just APPEAR to be similar. That is something that's only done in games which DO require unique names and CANNOT have duplicate names — THEN it's a valid thing to do. im pretty sure everyone using a barcode maxed out the possible amount letters in there name
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In general I think it's palin supid that Blizzard allows identical names. One account One name...that's how I want it. Would force people to be creative at least.
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I use this to Hide my Progress from my friends! Haha! They will see I am low in rank and not laddering.
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Love it or hate it it isn't going away until there comes an easy way to hide how a player is practicing
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Leave it as it is big brother.
But it sucks.
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All you guys are blaming blizzard and whatnot, but you need to recognize the true culprit in all this: the retard who decided making I and l the same character! Seriously, that's like making f=P . People deliberately causing incovenience and discrod just for the sake of an artistic or aesthetic appeal, with no regard to practicality, anger me. This angers me, really. What sort of asshole didn't like to cross their capitol 'i' 's? Is 'T' so ugly, does it take up too much room?! Then why not just add another horizontal stroke, and you'd get none of this intentional confusion. /FirstWorldProblemsOFF
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Even if blizzard bans combs of i's and l's then all the players can name themselfs Lee and nobody will know who the other is?
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What's hilarious is when sub master level player use it to "hide" their awesome skills. Or just to look cool and be like the "pros".
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What does sadden me is that I used to love hearing cool stories about playing a pro on ladder for the first time. Can't get those now, if they're using barcodes you can't know that you just played against a known player.
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I just saw this and thought it was relevant:
![[image loading]](http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/license_plate.png)
Also I really don't care about barcode names. If people want to hide who they are it's really not a big deal unless they're really obnoxious trolls or something.
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It's not offensive so there is no reason to ban it. No reason to even talk about it.
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Can't have anything against anonymity on the internet and no one should call someone pathetic, just because that someone uses barcodes. The reason doesn't matter, the skill level doesn't matter. Someone in Bronze has the same right to be anonymous, as any pro player. Moreover, I doubt a Bronze player hiding his identity with barcodes does it, so he can hide his epic builds or pretend to be a progamer.
There are so many fuckfaces playing this game raging, hating and whining and insulting others while playing on the ladder, I can totally understand if a normal player just doesn't want to have any of this and stays anonymous with a barcode id, so there isn't even the slightest chance of being forced to put up with people they don't want to. And we all know that that one guy who calls himself IMNestea is not the real Nestea, the creator of the universe, who is playing his 1000th ladder game in bronze on NA.
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I think it's funny how people automatically hate on sub-masters players using barcodes. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Maybe the person just wants to ladder undisturbed. Maybe you don't want to know if you queue'd against the same person twice. I think we care too much. If someone wants to feel like a pro, then let them have their way. Whatever it takes to have fun.
I mean sure, barcodes are meant for hiding builds, but it's also pretty useful for hiding who you are, and while harder to play the same people in a lower league, I think the same thing applies regardless of what league you are in.
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On September 11 2012 05:00 Kuni wrote: There are so many fuckfaces playing this game raging, hating and whining and insulting others while playing on the ladder, I can totally understand if a normal player just doesn't want to have any of this and stays anonymous with a barcode id, so there isn't even the slightest chance of being forced to put up with people they don't want to. Actually because of this anonymity, usually barcode people are the worst mannered and most BM because they have no attachment to the name.
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I don't know why people bother to get annoyed by it. For those lower leaguers that want to emulate the pros, it's just like wearing a professional football player's jersey when you go for a kick around in the park to live the dream for a few hours. Nothing to be ashamed of and perfectly normal behaviour.
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On August 21 2012 23:50 eScaper-tsunami wrote: There's basically no solution to this problem. ID's are no longer unique, everybody can just choose the same ID and we'd go into the same problem again. Unless blizzard wants to remove duplicate ID now.... but it's probably too late and waaaaayyy too complicated.
I just wish they would at least give pros the chance to have unique IDs.
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