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On September 04 2012 11:44 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get why it bothers people what the ID of their opponent is, it has no effect on the game itself. Play styles. Most important at the top level like grandmasters. Even at lower levels it may come a bit in to play when you play the same opponent twice.
However, like my previous post said (right before yours), I don't know why people mix I's and l's; it just doesn't make any sense for privacy purposes.
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On September 04 2012 11:42 Xapti wrote:I don't understand why people bother with using combination i/l names. It simply makes the name more unique and easily identifiable than if they chose/had-chosen the most common name on battle.net (possibly of similar league as well, not that it changes much I would think). You can have multiple accounts/users with the same name in SC2, so there's no reason to have different combinations of 'i's and 'l's. At the least they should lean towards a standardized name like "AAAAAAAAAAA", "GLHF", "Anonymous", "llllllllll", (or an existing one like "ESPORTS", "Zerg") or something else, which will offer optimum privacy. Actually, to make things easier, maybe Blizzard should just add a privacy option for battle.net to to which if you enable it, your name becomes something like "Anonymous" Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 10:08 acrimoneyius wrote:
Regardless of the anonymity, this is a great way to show Blizzard how stupid it is to not have truly unique ID's. Everyone should be a bar code...YEAH!... Not at all. The whole origin of barcode names is from when unique names did/do exist, hence people had to come up with various IDs which would look the same, even though they were different.
how does 150 people all using a barcode name make it more original then picking a random word?
they could use someonething like GLHF or Anonymous but unless everyone uses that name its pointless because people will figure out who you are eventually by playstyle and rank "oh look theres one guy named Anonymous in the top 8 GM ladder and last time i played him he used X strat and other guys said he used same strat, and we know that Y palyer always uses X strat so now we know Anonymous = Y player" but with everyone using barcode then you cant tell which barcode is who so you dont know if the barcode your playing is the same one or different its impossible to figure out whos who without an insane amount of work
barcode is just the way most people chose to hide there name it could have been anonymous or something else but with barcode you dont actually know if the name is llllllllll or if its IIIIIIIIII or if its IIIIIlllll those 3 names were all spelled differently but you cant tell it apart at all
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The concept of the barcode name is fine, but it's kind of silly to see bronze leaguers with one. I don't see a problem with it though.
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Because Blizzard doesn't allow multiple accounts like in BW and no way to hide builds on ladder, barcode names came out.
Thus it makes sense for pros to have them.
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I definitely don't see any reason or justification for banning barcode names. That would be silly
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I want a thread on TL for finding out who's which barcode...where people submit reps and have gosu hotkey analysis done, just like the old iccup whos who threads.
the problem is it's next to impossible to distinguish between different barcodes and there's no public way to find a character code right? So it seems next to impossible... 
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I don't care about this but it is another artifact of Blizzards bizarre policies. 1 account per copy of the game and no name changes mean people are going to make barcode accounts. If you could just make a smurf for an afternoon then you might use any name... but if you have to buy the account the only way to ensure your anonymity is to make a barcode account. Otherwise someone will leak your smurf ID and ruin the anonymous practice.
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On September 04 2012 11:42 Xapti wrote:I don't understand why people bother with using combination i/l names. It simply makes the name more unique and easily identifiable than if they chose/had-chosen the most common name on battle.net (possibly of similar league as well, not that it changes much I would think). You can have multiple accounts/users with the same name in SC2, so there's no reason to have different combinations of 'i's and 'l's. At the least they should lean towards a standardized name like "AAAAAAAAAAA", "GLHF", "Anonymous", "llllllllll", (or an existing one like "ESPORTS", "Zerg") or something else, which will offer optimum privacy. Actually, to make things easier, maybe Blizzard should just add a privacy option for battle.net to to which if you enable it, your name becomes something like "Anonymous" Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 10:08 acrimoneyius wrote:
Regardless of the anonymity, this is a great way to show Blizzard how stupid it is to not have truly unique ID's. Everyone should be a bar code...YEAH!... Not at all. The whole origin of barcode names is from when unique names did/do exist, hence people had to come up with various IDs which would look the same, even though they were different.
They should use Alex. Thats the most common name currently with a whooping 2,674 accounts. Unfortunately I doubt that there is alot of them in GM/High Master at the moment.
EDIT: llllllllllll is the most common barcode with 555 accounts.
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On August 21 2012 23:55 ROOTT1 wrote:
love it, its the only way we can smurf. i wish everyone would have a barcode id on na =/
we could smurf by all taking the same id. the barcode id's are ugly as hell. i wish we had collectively agreed on a cooler id. but yeah at this point now it's been decided and it's the only way to smurf
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On August 22 2012 03:00 Tyree wrote:
I am fine with because it is only confined to ladder, which really does not matter
I would be raging hard if barcodes were in tournaments and LAN events, which they arent.
That wouldn't bother me at all, assuming the players were identified by the casters. It'd be the same as watching Idra play KR on Cale, or iNcontroL play EU on RedeemeR or any number of other players on any number of smurfs. The only way it'd be irritating is if, in an online tournament, the players didn't identify themselves to the admins, so the casters were completely in the dark. Otherwise, if CreatorPrime is playing in TSL, Chill's going to call him Creator, regardless of his account.
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I fucking hate it. I want to know who I've beaten. That might be selfish but I really don't care.
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I dont like it. I think that players should be able to preserve their anonymity without having to make their name a bar code.
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Ive no problem with it, pretty clever imo.
Bar code names and cloacked maps are defenitely awesome ideas for obvious reasons.
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Recently the problem is that some drop hackers/map hackers are using barcodes just so that reporting them becomes impossible in game. Otherwise, I'm cool with it.
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On August 21 2012 23:42 soon.Cloak wrote:The reason players do this is to, of course, be anonymous, which means that: - People can't take those replays and study them for when they play that (no longer) anonymous opponent - People who may already know that opponent's style won't be able to use that knowledge Some people seem to think this is ok, because of the strategic advantage. Others hate it, because they want to know who they are playing against/watching in a stream. (It obviously can get patched out if Blizzard actually thought it was a problem, but I have no idea if anyone there even knows about it  ) Thoughts TL?
Pretty dumb reasons against barcode names.
I can't think of a logical reason a pro player would want to give away his playing tendencies and strategies to increase the chances of his opponents winning and increase the enjoyment of his opponents' stream viewers.
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i feel like it's only dumb when non pros do it, like what -.- straight up poser right here
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when i play people with a barcode, i get the feeling they are try hards.
If i win i just feel that much better
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On August 22 2012 01:54 MyFirstProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 01:02 Dexington wrote:On August 21 2012 23:52 soon.Cloak wrote:On August 21 2012 23:45 stew_ wrote:
even if you ban the combination of i's and l's, people will use different letters to remain anonymous. i'm fine with it however. But even if you have player "zuvgoagbsb", there will only be one of him. It's different than having 30 players that are IIIIII. In before zuvgoagbsb becomes the new |||||||||| I giggled a bit at the idea of a grandmaster league with 50 zuvgoagbsb's in it :D
For a while i thought QuanticFlo was the new |||||||||| guess it was wrong and |||||I||| (note the difference) is the new ||||||||.
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Topic: Couldn't care less, if i ever hit a ||||||||| in my trashy plat league i'll just all in the crap outa him and bm i guess :X
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On September 04 2012 11:51 Forikorder wrote:
how does 150 people all using a barcode name make it more original then picking a random word?
they could use someonething like GLHF or Anonymous but unless everyone uses that name its pointless because people will figure out who you are eventually by playstyle and rank "oh look theres one guy named Anonymous in the top 8 GM ladder and last time i played him he used X strat and other guys said he used same strat, and we know that Y palyer always uses X strat so now we know Anonymous = Y player" but with everyone using barcode then you cant tell which barcode is who so you dont know if the barcode your playing is the same one or different its impossible to figure out whos who without an insane amount of work
barcode is just the way most people chose to hide there name it could have been anonymous or something else but with barcode you dont actually know if the name is llllllllll or if its IIIIIIIIII or if its IIIIIlllll those 3 names were all spelled differently but you cant tell it apart at all
no no no! you don't understand the concept whatsoever.
I'm not saying barcode itself isn't useful. If you looked at my examples of GOOD choices, a barcode name was one of them.
The issue is that they aren't all using the same name — then there's a person with the name IIIIlllll and another with the name lllllllllllll, and another with the name IlIlIlIlIlIl, it's possible to distinguish them apart because while they look similar, they are not the same — a person could count the number of characters, and/or count the pattern/sequence of characters to an approximate (or precise) degree, hence identifying them better.
All people who use a barcode name should be using all Is or all ls in order to be anonymous. They should also try to keep the same number of characters so that the names are identical.
While the name "anonymous" would not be anonymous if you (or only a handful of people) used that name, my point was that if "Anonymous" was used instead of all these DISTINGUISHABLE barcode names (because they're not all the same), then people would have better privacy.
It's all about having the same name. There is absolutely no benefit (it's actually a hinderance) to have different names which just APPEAR to be similar. That is something that's only done in games which DO require unique names and CANNOT have duplicate names — THEN it's a valid thing to do.
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