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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#441
I find it funny that the art assets for the Widow Mine are pretty much placeholder galore.

The build icon in the Factory is a Point Defense Drone.

The build icon in the observer's unit production bar is a Shredder.

The wireframe is a Shredder.

But the actual unit uses the Spider Mine model from the WoL campaign.
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
August 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#442
On August 14 2012 11:32 MCDayC wrote:
Am I the only one who liked the Tempest?


No , im sure my mutas gonna love them to
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
August 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#443
Impressions:

Warhound is stupidly good. Tempest is still boring. Some stupid new type of rocks that prevents accessing Xel'Naga Tower which isn't good for a game like StarCraft despite being a smart thing to do as a player. Also, the protoss player didn't use any AoE. I was hoping for some storm. T.T
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#444
Battle Hellions almost look like zerg units and Warhounds are incredibly ugly and from watching this BR seem extremely strong.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
August 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#445
Not bothering to buy this game.

Going to wait 6months after release to see if the pros can salvage some decent gameplay out of this festering mess.
tpfkan
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#446
On August 14 2012 11:34 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 11:32 MCDayC wrote:
Am I the only one who liked the Tempest?

Tempest Poll

Not every unit has to be useful in every matchup. The Tempest is probably going to be as rarely used as Carriers are against Terran...
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
August 14 2012 02:36 GMT
#447
The tempest probably sucks (for its cost) and will make pvz a lot harder, if it's to replace the mothership in being the answer to broodlords. It will be interesting to see how the oracle affects pvp. Even if all the units are rubbish, the only thing I really care about is the purifier being able to stop 20 apm Terrans that are playing blindfolded from getting free wins with 1/1/1. If that's the case, I'm sold. Big fan.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 14 2012 02:36 GMT
#448
On August 14 2012 11:35 eviltomahawk wrote:
I find it funny that the art assets for the Widow Mine are pretty much placeholder galore.

The build icon in the Factory is a Point Defense Drone.

The build icon in the observer's unit production bar is a Shredder.

The wireframe is a Shredder.

But the actual unit uses the Spider Mine model from the WoL campaign.


And also having a sound effect from Total Ahnnililation I do believe.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46306 Posts
August 14 2012 02:36 GMT
#449
On August 14 2012 11:20 Kamwah wrote:
Terrible casting.

Terrible insight.

Terrible collapsible rocks.


In LotV, destructible rocks and collapsible rocks will be able to merge into a Rock Archon. It will have eight million hp and Dustin Browder's beard.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 02:36:52
August 14 2012 02:36 GMT
#450
On August 14 2012 11:10 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 11:08 Warpath wrote:
This report made carriers look like they'd be pretty good.

On August 14 2012 11:05 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 11:04 VPCursed wrote:
can people calm the fuck down and wait for beta to launch? Everyone seems to be jumping the gun on balance atm.. we don't know how things will play out when professionals get their hands on the game

It's not a balance issue, at all. It's the direction they're patently trying to take this game in a design sense.

More risk-free no-rush expansion plays? -Check
More a-movable armies - Check


um.. what exactly are you arguing with this? We've wanted safe expansion play -> large macro game...

The ability to safe expand, if you are diligent in scouting, make good reads and position your units well. Not 'oh I goofed you're trying to bunker rush me, lucky I have a 60 damage a shot cannon that I can build before my cyber eh?'. Jesus fucking H Christ

Granted you were probably being sarcastic


No i see what you mean. I read that line without the context of mass recall and purify.
Vorrenus
Profile Joined March 2010
Afghanistan94 Posts
August 14 2012 02:36 GMT
#451
Well I have to say I didn't enjoy this BR, but that will change, i'm sure they'll balance it out. What I'm most disappointed with is boxbot.


[image loading]
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
August 14 2012 02:36 GMT
#452
On August 14 2012 11:33 Rah wrote:
I'm thinking back to wings of liberty alpha when David Kim tried to show that colossus/ warp prism/ phoenix was viable. I hope Blizzard can get mech right.


It would be viable if it weren't for the fact that the same unit counter all three of those units. And the fact that Collosi doesn't have enough burst damage like the Reaver. But, of course Blizzard wanted to make the Collosi an easy unit to use and counter. Terrible damage and less overkill for everybody!!!
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27293 Posts
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#453
On August 14 2012 11:36 playa wrote:
The tempest probably sucks (for its cost) and will make pvz a lot harder, if it's to replace the mothership in being the answer to broodlords. It will be interesting to see how the oracle affects pvp. Even if all the units are rubbish, the only thing I really care about is the purifier being able to stop 20 apm Terrans that are playing blindfolded from getting free wins with 1/1/1. If that's the case, I'm sold. Big fan.

1/1/1 is scoutable, you shouldn't be able to DEFEND it blindfolded?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#454
Where is the unit dynamic when a unit is literally good against the entire race...
FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#455
so protoss don't have to demonstrate any map awareness with their harrass because of recall?

theres no element of calculated risk that separates pros from scrubs that just run around with no vision or no understanding of enemy unit movements
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46306 Posts
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#456
On August 14 2012 11:35 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 11:34 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On August 14 2012 11:32 MCDayC wrote:
Am I the only one who liked the Tempest?

Tempest Poll

Not every unit has to be useful in every matchup. The Tempest is probably going to be as rarely used as Carriers are against Terran...


Tempest forces vikings = don't bother making colossi lol

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#457
warhounds would be awesome if the marauder didn't exist, ever. Good pic Vorrenus
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 02:38:30
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#458
Tempest will be useful against mech, especially if you consider that phoenix will probably be used too, since they can outposition vikings.

No marines: phoenix. Unfortunately, with mech, T doesn't have fungals and IT to clear out pheonix.
tpfkan
babyToSS
Profile Joined December 2009
233 Posts
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#459
Lol. I love how mech is using its "mobility" against tempest based toss compositions.
babyToSS here! Can u go easy on me plzzz?
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#460
On August 14 2012 11:36 Vorrenus wrote:
Well I have to say I didn't enjoy this BR, but that will change, i'm sure they'll balance it out. What I'm most disappointed with is boxbot.


[image loading]


Don't like that its body compartment is that of an SCV basically.
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