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DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 09 2012 23:46 GMT
#101
To access our account, the hackers need to :

a) have the hash of our passwords
b) know the hashing algorithm that blizzard use
c) your password need to be weak

I don't see that happening, but better safe than sorry.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 09 2012 23:48 GMT
#102
Hmm, so everyone outside of China was hit? Interesting

So could we infer that the hackers are based from China, or is that just simply a red herring to scapegoat?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
August 09 2012 23:49 GMT
#103
Also this should serve as a reminder of how stupid the concept of secret questions is. Fill in garbage or otherwise meaningless words for those fields and safeguard your passwords via other means, e.g., with a program like keepass or service like 1password.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
August 09 2012 23:49 GMT
#104
On August 10 2012 07:38 Probe1 wrote:
So change your passwords. Got it.

(Before anyone says "Oh no Probe u sux at reading", cryptographically scrambled versions.. do you trust your account and information on that? Do you?")


yeah. they store only the hash values of passwords, that are attained through the use of a one-way function. its actually pretty safe stuff. to break them hackers would need to be either better at math than the worlds best mathematicians, or have access to currently non-existent amounts computing power.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
InDesconrowl
Profile Joined April 2012
Togo311 Posts
August 09 2012 23:50 GMT
#105
On August 10 2012 08:40 QuanticIllusion wrote:
Didnt something like this happen a year or so ago? damn hackers


It happened to steam about a year ago. The chinese hacker who hacked steam is now in jail .
:tg: Ginyu Force :tg:
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 09 2012 23:50 GMT
#106
I have a physical authenticator so everything is rosy for me.

I'd imagine most people have one by now, its so small. I wish my bank account had one.
twitch.tv/medrea
Virtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 12:45:26
August 09 2012 23:51 GMT
#107
On August 10 2012 08:30 netherh wrote:
It's lucky they don't do anything stupid like make all the passwords case insensitive... Oh wait.


Usually at this point after a hack, case of the characters in your passwords doesn't matter. They are just going to brute force (Try every possible combination of characters for a certain length) and when a computer is just calculating hashes and comparing them it doesn't make it harder or easier. Thankfully, it seems like Blizzard's password storage protocol is a lot better than most encryption methods at standing up to brute forcing their hashes. (Might even be impossible.)

Still, when it comes to passwords length is all that matters. I work for a company that audits IT and when we get hashes of passwords like these guys did, we can usually crack all of an institutions passwords in a day. The only ones we can't crack no matter how long we try are are ones that are long (Something like 13-15 characters or longer). The best passwords are ones that are long and easy for you to remember/type but that are also hard for people who have information about you to guess and are not used for multiple accounts/sites. R1CH has pointed out that last bit before; If you have a different password for everything, one compromised site like this won't matter.

People only use short passwords because they are usually forced to used ridiculous cases and special characters that make the password hard to type quickly. If you just make a password that is long, has a few spaces, and only uses lower case letters, you'll be more secure than someone who has an 8 character long password that has a capital letter, special character, and a number and much more likely to be able to remember it and type it quickly.

*Edited part of my second paragraph. It now correctly says that "The only ones we can't crack no matter how long we try are the ones that are long(Something like 13-15 characters or longer)"
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
August 09 2012 23:52 GMT
#108
No worries, changed password, and will change security question later. Also changed password to related email address to my Bnet account, just in case.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 23:55:04
August 09 2012 23:53 GMT
#109
On positive note, its nice to see that Blizzard really has put their mind into the protection part (their security, judging by their post is pretty dammn hard to actually crack even if you got the information), they even went out and were totally transparent about the whole thing. Curdos to Blizzard about this.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
August 09 2012 23:54 GMT
#110
On August 10 2012 08:48 Bagration wrote:
Hmm, so everyone outside of China was hit? Interesting

So could we infer that the hackers are based from China, or is that just simply a red herring to scapegoat?


The hacker could very well be from china, but I don't think you can infer that from the information, blizzard gets a different company to run all of it's mainland china business and they probably have seperate authentication servers that weren't hit.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 23:56:01
August 09 2012 23:55 GMT
#111
@ Virtue

Reminds me of this:

[image loading]
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
August 09 2012 23:56 GMT
#112
fuck i hope they dont have a machine like the guys in digital fortress to get the passwords
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 09 2012 23:57 GMT
#113
Blizzard should give us all beta access to HOTS for this :D
thekoalaz
Profile Joined October 2011
United States109 Posts
August 09 2012 23:59 GMT
#114
On August 10 2012 08:55 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
@ Virtue

Reminds me of this:

[image loading]



Beat me to it
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 09 2012 23:59 GMT
#115
On August 10 2012 08:55 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
@ Virtue

Reminds me of this:

[image loading]

Have you ever heard of the Green horse wanking off at the prairie?
GreenHorseWankingPrairie, you'll never forget that password, and its hard as hell to break
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 10 2012 00:01 GMT
#116
On August 10 2012 08:51 Virtue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 08:30 netherh wrote:
It's lucky they don't do anything stupid like make all the passwords case insensitive... Oh wait.


Usually at this point after a hack, case of the characters in your passwords doesn't matter. They are just going to brute force (Try every possible combination of characters for a certain length) and when a computer is just calculating hashes and comparing them it doesn't make it harder or easier. Thankfully, it seems like Blizzard's password storage protocol is a lot better than most encryption methods at standing up to brute forcing their hashes. (Might even be impossible.)


Actually, case does help. They are going to brute force it and if they have to take into account the case, it will increase the number of possibilities by A LOT.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
August 10 2012 00:01 GMT
#117
On August 10 2012 08:49 Kambing wrote:
Also this should serve as a reminder of how stupid the concept of secret questions is. Fill in garbage or otherwise meaningless words for those fields and safeguard your passwords via other means, e.g., with a program like keepass or service like 1password.

I think it's time to just start treating the secret answer as another unique password. You can't actually answer the question correctly, as anyone who knows you well enough will be able to guess the answer and you can't use the same answer for all questions as these attacks are becoming increasingly more common.
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
August 10 2012 00:04 GMT
#118
Not a big deal. Carry on.
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 10 2012 00:05 GMT
#119
Fortunately my b.net password is isolated. Still, I'll be changing it when I get home from work. I had an e-mail account stolen from me once. It was a huge headache to get secure again.
xSilverx
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden76 Posts
August 10 2012 00:06 GMT
#120
Mike Morhaime the person i respect most in the world! Hopefully this will be sorted out and fixed, but i won´t lose any trust for blizzard. This happens to everyone even the greatest, just make sure to fix it.
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