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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 10 2012 10:29 GMT
#261
i personally don´t expect stephano to succeed in GSL. Many of him before were expected to ahieve greatness in Korea, no one of them ever was a champ.
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Beyond Magic
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland130 Posts
August 10 2012 10:39 GMT
#262
On August 10 2012 18:12 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 02:58 GreEny K wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:44 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:42 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 09 2012 22:42 Agathon wrote:
On August 09 2012 22:11 Polygamy wrote:
He really needs to play a GSL already


No. He doesn't need it.

You want to see him playing in GSL, and it's perfectly understandable, but neither his fame, neither his bank account need it.

GSL is not "money worthy" for a player like Stephano.




Right because money is all he cares about. That's what makes him a true competitor, he's in it for the money only.


A Pro gamer play for Money??? Wow that's surprising


It might be hard for you to believe this, but true athletes love doing what they do because of reasons other than money.


You live in a dream world. The term pro = means you make money doing whatever sport you doing. If you think money isn't a top priority for any pro gamer in starcraft 2 then im sorry to break you cosy and lovely dream . Why do you think so many Koreans wanna join foreign teams? Why do you think players and teams join tournament with the highest price pools?

Money is the number 1 priority in any sport because without it then you arnt a pro gamer and you properly will never get good at it since you have to get another job to support you.

Every player in starcraft 2 needs and wants money. Stephano is just honest about it while all others don't talk about it or just feed the fans bullshit




Its quite true that money is important, but if you look at it from stephanos perspective, he probably has a good salary and makes good money even without winning big tournaments, at this point i dont think he is that concerned about it.

If he plans on quitting next year, i wouldnt be suprised if hed like to win GSL before that, even if he would skip foreign event because of gsl thats not straight up losing money, even with stephanos skills he isnt going to automaticly win all mlg,ipl tournaments.

Anyone whos saying players are on it just for the money, have clearly never done any kind of sports themselves since there is A LOT more to it than stacks of money but i wouldnt talk about "They do it for love of the game".

People still undervalue the title of GSL champion, specially if a foreign player would wield it.
I would guess that IF Stephano would win GSL this year, he would play starcraft for at least 1 more year,
because anyone with some perspective knows that that kind of achievment would increase your value A LOT.
You would probably get insane offers from different teams, maybe even get some personal sponsors.
Korean gsl champions dont get that kind of attention because they dont have the same kind of market value outside korea since most of the world seems them as just some crazy asian people.
gg
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
August 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#263
On August 10 2012 19:39 Beyond Magic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 18:12 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:58 GreEny K wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:44 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:42 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 09 2012 22:42 Agathon wrote:
On August 09 2012 22:11 Polygamy wrote:
He really needs to play a GSL already


No. He doesn't need it.

You want to see him playing in GSL, and it's perfectly understandable, but neither his fame, neither his bank account need it.

GSL is not "money worthy" for a player like Stephano.




Right because money is all he cares about. That's what makes him a true competitor, he's in it for the money only.


A Pro gamer play for Money??? Wow that's surprising


It might be hard for you to believe this, but true athletes love doing what they do because of reasons other than money.


You live in a dream world. The term pro = means you make money doing whatever sport you doing. If you think money isn't a top priority for any pro gamer in starcraft 2 then im sorry to break you cosy and lovely dream . Why do you think so many Koreans wanna join foreign teams? Why do you think players and teams join tournament with the highest price pools?

Money is the number 1 priority in any sport because without it then you arnt a pro gamer and you properly will never get good at it since you have to get another job to support you.

Every player in starcraft 2 needs and wants money. Stephano is just honest about it while all others don't talk about it or just feed the fans bullshit




Its quite true that money is important, but if you look at it from stephanos perspective, he probably has a good salary and makes good money even without winning big tournaments, at this point i dont think he is that concerned about it.

If he plans on quitting next year, i wouldnt be suprised if hed like to win GSL before that, even if he would skip foreign event because of gsl thats not straight up losing money, even with stephanos skills he isnt going to automaticly win all mlg,ipl tournaments.

Anyone whos saying players are on it just for the money, have clearly never done any kind of sports themselves since there is A LOT more to it than stacks of money but i wouldnt talk about "They do it for love of the game".

People still undervalue the title of GSL champion, specially if a foreign player would wield it.
I would guess that IF Stephano would win GSL this year, he would play starcraft for at least 1 more year,
because anyone with some perspective knows that that kind of achievment would increase your value A LOT.
You would probably get insane offers from different teams, maybe even get some personal sponsors.
Korean gsl champions dont get that kind of attention because they dont have the same kind of market value outside korea since most of the world seems them as just some crazy asian people.


Thank you! Someone who finally sees the bigger picture. It isn't just about the short term burst of cash from the prize winnings, it's the long term popularity and sponsor interest which will rake in the cash and secure a long term future of pro gaming. This is especially true if a foreigner were to win Gsl.
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Simsallabin
Profile Joined June 2012
Nepal216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 11:56:26
August 10 2012 11:55 GMT
#264
On August 10 2012 19:39 Beyond Magic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 18:12 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:58 GreEny K wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:44 Benjamin99 wrote:
On August 10 2012 02:42 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 09 2012 22:42 Agathon wrote:
On August 09 2012 22:11 Polygamy wrote:
He really needs to play a GSL already


No. He doesn't need it.

You want to see him playing in GSL, and it's perfectly understandable, but neither his fame, neither his bank account need it.

GSL is not "money worthy" for a player like Stephano.




Right because money is all he cares about. That's what makes him a true competitor, he's in it for the money only.


A Pro gamer play for Money??? Wow that's surprising


It might be hard for you to believe this, but true athletes love doing what they do because of reasons other than money.


You live in a dream world. The term pro = means you make money doing whatever sport you doing. If you think money isn't a top priority for any pro gamer in starcraft 2 then im sorry to break you cosy and lovely dream . Why do you think so many Koreans wanna join foreign teams? Why do you think players and teams join tournament with the highest price pools?

Money is the number 1 priority in any sport because without it then you arnt a pro gamer and you properly will never get good at it since you have to get another job to support you.

Every player in starcraft 2 needs and wants money. Stephano is just honest about it while all others don't talk about it or just feed the fans bullshit




Its quite true that money is important, but if you look at it from stephanos perspective, he probably has a good salary and makes good money even without winning big tournaments, at this point i dont think he is that concerned about it.

If he plans on quitting next year, i wouldnt be suprised if hed like to win GSL before that, even if he would skip foreign event because of gsl thats not straight up losing money, even with stephanos skills he isnt going to automaticly win all mlg,ipl tournaments.

Anyone whos saying players are on it just for the money, have clearly never done any kind of sports themselves since there is A LOT more to it than stacks of money but i wouldnt talk about "They do it for love of the game".

People still undervalue the title of GSL champion, specially if a foreign player would wield it.
I would guess that IF Stephano would win GSL this year, he would play starcraft for at least 1 more year,
because anyone with some perspective knows that that kind of achievment would increase your value A LOT.
You would probably get insane offers from different teams, maybe even get some personal sponsors.
Korean gsl champions dont get that kind of attention because they dont have the same kind of market value outside korea since most of the world seems them as just some crazy asian people.


Well it's not like it's people making these things up. It's Stephano him self that have said it. He's in it to win as much money possible and that he doesn't like the GSL format. If he's trolling that's fine I guess but you sound like people are telling lies.
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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
August 10 2012 12:04 GMT
#265
On August 10 2012 19:29 Cele wrote:
i personally don´t expect stephano to succeed in GSL. Many of him before were expected to ahieve greatness in Korea, no one of them ever was a champ.

no, noone won multiple titles before going to korea. Naniwa won one major tournament, but he was never on the 'lol i stomp every foreigner with ease' level Stephano is for almost a year now.

Stephano is as good as the best Koreans at a offline tournament or in ladder, but GSL is quite different, because you have to prepare for a certain opponent. imo the crucial point will be if Stephano is able to do so
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
August 10 2012 12:12 GMT
#266
On August 10 2012 19:29 Cele wrote:
i personally don´t expect stephano to succeed in GSL. Many of him before were expected to ahieve greatness in Korea, no one of them ever was a champ.

Excepted that he is the foreigner who did the best against koreans, that he has won multiple major tournaments with koreans in it, and that he is probably the most feared foreigner by the koreans...

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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 12:37:04
August 10 2012 12:35 GMT
#267
On August 10 2012 21:04 Zeon0 wrote:
[...]
Stephano is as good as the best Koreans at a offline tournament or in ladder, but GSL is quite different, because you have to prepare for a certain opponent. imo the crucial point will be if Stephano is able to do so


Because you can prepare for a certain opponent from round to round means that cup/tournament is harder to win than "weekend tournaments"?! I don't think.
In those "weekend tournaments" like MLG, IPL you have to be prepared in all matchups to win those tournaments, this is for me the crucial point for all players.
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 12:45:07
August 10 2012 12:44 GMT
#268
Some people seem to be forgetting that if opponents can prepare for Stephano, then he can also prepare for his opponents. It doesn't work only one way.

Good to see him getting in some dedicated practice sessions in on KR Ladder. Hopefully he will get friendly with the TSL players, many of whom he has already faced in tournaments already - Polt, Inori, Symbol, Hyun etc. Getting a better support network in Korea for practice partners/preparation can only help him.

I am not sure whether Stephano will return to TSL House after MLG though. His current contract expires with Millenium next month and he will probably switch teams which would end his time in TSL House, although not end any friendships established there.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
August 10 2012 12:46 GMT
#269
Good luck Stephano!
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 10 2012 12:49 GMT
#270
On August 10 2012 21:35 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 21:04 Zeon0 wrote:
[...]
Stephano is as good as the best Koreans at a offline tournament or in ladder, but GSL is quite different, because you have to prepare for a certain opponent. imo the crucial point will be if Stephano is able to do so


Because you can prepare for a certain opponent from round to round means that cup/tournament is harder to win than "weekend tournaments"?! I don't think.
In those "weekend tournaments" like MLG, IPL you have to be prepared in all matchups to win those tournaments, this is for me the crucial point for all players.
Not harder, but a different skill is needed. I hope you can imagine that identifying flaws in opponents gameplay in a short period of time is something completely different than doing so in a week or more..
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 12:58:29
August 10 2012 12:57 GMT
#271
On August 10 2012 21:35 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 21:04 Zeon0 wrote:
[...]
Stephano is as good as the best Koreans at a offline tournament or in ladder, but GSL is quite different, because you have to prepare for a certain opponent. imo the crucial point will be if Stephano is able to do so


Because you can prepare for a certain opponent from round to round means that cup/tournament is harder to win than "weekend tournaments"?! I don't think.
In those "weekend tournaments" like MLG, IPL you have to be prepared in all matchups to win those tournaments, this is for me the crucial point for all players.

It means that it is a different skillset.

edit: I'm an idiot.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 13:14:36
August 10 2012 13:13 GMT
#272
Funny how this whole thread is about a mere 2 weeks in Korea lol. Considering he won't play GSL until November because he's "too busy", he probably won't be coming back to Korea right away. 2 weeks offers no benefit whatsoever...so yeah, more of a PR thing.
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
August 10 2012 13:42 GMT
#273
On August 10 2012 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
Funny how this whole thread is about a mere 2 weeks in Korea lol. Considering he won't play GSL until November because he's "too busy", he probably won't be coming back to Korea right away. 2 weeks offers no benefit whatsoever...so yeah, more of a PR thing.


Yeah this is some TSL PR, he's good PR to them.
Sekken
Profile Joined August 2012
Afghanistan248 Posts
August 10 2012 13:50 GMT
#274
Stephano is beast! hope he does well. Every day when the sun rises, I shall eat my Wheaties in your name- "Stephano!" I will yell, as I let each mouthful of the wheaty Wheaties resignate deep within my body. And thus, my soul shall arise- in the epitome of my delight, and I will be happy.

Xoxo, your fan - Sekken
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TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
August 10 2012 14:00 GMT
#275
On August 10 2012 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
Funny how this whole thread is about a mere 2 weeks in Korea lol. Considering he won't play GSL until November because he's "too busy", he probably won't be coming back to Korea right away. 2 weeks offers no benefit whatsoever...so yeah, more of a PR thing.


2 weeks of intensive training with Polt and Symbol will make them all better, plus KR ladder being tougher in general for when they aren't training.

2 weeks I believe is a much better time span for training as you can go all out and spend only a few days resting. If it drags over a month or two you get touristy, lazy, etc.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
August 10 2012 14:02 GMT
#276
On August 10 2012 22:42 a3den wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
Funny how this whole thread is about a mere 2 weeks in Korea lol. Considering he won't play GSL until November because he's "too busy", he probably won't be coming back to Korea right away. 2 weeks offers no benefit whatsoever...so yeah, more of a PR thing.


Yeah this is some TSL PR, he's good PR to them.



As he should be.

In other news, is he actually playing GSL in November? that's awesome!
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StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
August 10 2012 14:18 GMT
#277
On August 10 2012 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
Funny how this whole thread is about a mere 2 weeks in Korea lol. Considering he won't play GSL until November because he's "too busy", he probably won't be coming back to Korea right away. 2 weeks offers no benefit whatsoever...so yeah, more of a PR thing.


For a low level player two weeks is not enough time to really improve. However, for a highly skilled player like Stephano, on top of his game, this is more than enough time to fine tune his play. Just as an elite athlete can train with another for just a week or two and improve, a normal athlete would probably just be getting over being sore. Or another example would be going from course to fine when sharpening a knife. The knife has to be already sharp in order for it to continue sharpening on the fine setting.


Too many analogies, I know...
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 10 2012 14:28 GMT
#278
Go Stephano!! I hope you find some time to crush the souls of some Korean players while you are there. The visit seems so short though.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#279
does anyone have a link to stephanos kr acc?
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 14:40:58
August 10 2012 14:40 GMT
#280
I'm interested to see what sort of builds GSL players prepare for Stephano.
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