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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 10 2012 23:16 GMT
#301
On August 11 2012 08:11 AgentChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 08:05 The_Darkness wrote:
On August 11 2012 00:48 Dosey wrote:
On August 11 2012 00:40 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 10 2012 23:18 StreetWise wrote:
On August 10 2012 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
Funny how this whole thread is about a mere 2 weeks in Korea lol. Considering he won't play GSL until November because he's "too busy", he probably won't be coming back to Korea right away. 2 weeks offers no benefit whatsoever...so yeah, more of a PR thing.


For a low level player two weeks is not enough time to really improve. However, for a highly skilled player like Stephano, on top of his game, this is more than enough time to fine tune his play. Just as an elite athlete can train with another for just a week or two and improve, a normal athlete would probably just be getting over being sore. Or another example would be going from course to fine when sharpening a knife. The knife has to be already sharp in order for it to continue sharpening on the fine setting.


Too many analogies, I know...



All I know is that other pros including IdrA have said that takes months before one would see a benefit from a Korean training house. I trust their word more than your blanket statement backed up by irrelevant analogies.

Well shit, if IdrA said it then we shouldn't even be discussing this. He is the end all, be all, authority figure on such matters after all...


His word is truth itself.

no doubt

it is known
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
August 10 2012 23:18 GMT
#302
On August 11 2012 00:11 kommunalka wrote:
GL Stephano.... hopefully your 2 weeks pays off @ MLG!


He won NASL off of 2 weeks of no practice... I wonder what 2 weeks of practice will do?
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
August 12 2012 18:40 GMT
#303
Korean GM with 3,5 days!
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 18:52:48
August 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#304
lol anyone who tries to apply common sense that other pros say what training regiments require to be good at Sc2 stephano has already shattered. He will greatly benefit from a merely two weeks of being in a pro house like TSL training for MLG. 2 weeks of training in korea for stephano is like 2 months worth of effort for a normal pro. Anyone who watches him play can clearly see if you have any knowledge of high level play just how insane his play is and how fluent he makes it look. Not to mention that he never shows any kind of mental tilting like a fair bit of other top players.

Even him doing little things like constantly building units during middle of battle chaotic situations AND adding them to a group of units specified by the unit type while microing in fights in insane. I.E. while microing in a heated fight, control group 4 for example for hatches then build specific unit, control click larva shift add to group wanted in selected units (since he usually uses about 3 control groups for units based on type of units) then back to his hatch control group build more units control click that larva add to group back to the fight and micro some more. WHILE PLAYING VS other top players. He does this without messing up constantly and makes it look fluent. This alone to not make mistakes with is freakish. You'll notice a lot of other especially foreign zerg players in heated fights cannot do this and instead rally their units close by and then highlight to select to fight but this actually is not nearly as effective to reinforce as the way stephano does it so quickly while managing fights.

Oh and not to mention in the short period of time he's been in korea (if anyone knows that stephano has said one of his biggest weak points is that he misses injects a lot when game intensity picks up) you'll notice that in this short period of time in korea he has been keeping queen energy down and hitting injects more often.
JD, need I say more? :D
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
August 12 2012 18:53 GMT
#305
On August 11 2012 08:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 08:11 AgentChaos wrote:
On August 11 2012 08:05 The_Darkness wrote:
On August 11 2012 00:48 Dosey wrote:
On August 11 2012 00:40 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 10 2012 23:18 StreetWise wrote:
On August 10 2012 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
Funny how this whole thread is about a mere 2 weeks in Korea lol. Considering he won't play GSL until November because he's "too busy", he probably won't be coming back to Korea right away. 2 weeks offers no benefit whatsoever...so yeah, more of a PR thing.


For a low level player two weeks is not enough time to really improve. However, for a highly skilled player like Stephano, on top of his game, this is more than enough time to fine tune his play. Just as an elite athlete can train with another for just a week or two and improve, a normal athlete would probably just be getting over being sore. Or another example would be going from course to fine when sharpening a knife. The knife has to be already sharp in order for it to continue sharpening on the fine setting.


Too many analogies, I know...



All I know is that other pros including IdrA have said that takes months before one would see a benefit from a Korean training house. I trust their word more than your blanket statement backed up by irrelevant analogies.

Well shit, if IdrA said it then we shouldn't even be discussing this. He is the end all, be all, authority figure on such matters after all...


His word is truth itself.

no doubt

it is known

I'm not sure that you guys know, but Stephano played 43 games in one day. If you continue that in two weeks on Korea server there is NO FUCKING WAY you won't improve a fuckton...
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 18:58:12
August 12 2012 18:55 GMT
#306
On August 13 2012 03:40 emis wrote:
Korean GM with 3,5 days!


that is what i wanted to say ... but ontop of that other TSL player played on this account and had always negative winrates - lol... and he made it anyway


edit: also Jaedong tweets: http://twitter.com/jd1231231/status/234715115457507328
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
August 12 2012 18:59 GMT
#307
UPDATE:

He got a mid master TSL-training account and takes it within 4 days to Grandmaster, while other TSL members played on the same account and had a negative win ratio... http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/2829480/1/이회창/ladder/37314#current-rank

now (just a hour ago) he started with place 190 in GM...

lets see how far he goes.. :3
(hopefully they let him play this account alone)

Courtesy of Anta
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 19:07:45
August 12 2012 19:03 GMT
#308
On August 13 2012 03:59 SeeKeR wrote:
UPDATE:

Show nested quote +
He got a mid master TSL-training account and takes it within 4 days to Grandmaster, while other TSL members played on the same account and had a negative win ratio... http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/2829480/1/이회창/ladder/37314#current-rank

now (just a hour ago) he started with place 190 in GM...

lets see how far he goes.. :3
(hopefully they let him play this account alone)

Courtesy of Anta


and TL moderators don't appreciate.. TT

edit: but thx SeeKeR
edit2: somtimes i think TL moderators aren't that much into SC2.. :o
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
August 12 2012 19:18 GMT
#309
hasnt stephano alrdy been there before?
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
August 12 2012 19:24 GMT
#310
Am i The only one who thinks it's sad that he dosent play in gsl?
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
August 12 2012 19:26 GMT
#311
On August 13 2012 04:18 OpTiKDream wrote:
hasnt stephano alrdy been there before?


?? nope!
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 19:30:32
August 12 2012 19:27 GMT
#312
On August 13 2012 04:24 TsGBruzze wrote:
Am i The only one who thinks it's sad that he dosent play in gsl?


He will not play GSL - isn't worth to..
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 12 2012 19:27 GMT
#313
59% in low gm is not that good. There are a ton of players with 60% or 70% in low gm
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 19:30:02
August 12 2012 19:29 GMT
#314
On August 13 2012 04:27 NoGasfOu wrote:
59% in low gm is not that good. There are a ton of players with 60% or 70% in low gm


His account had a 91 to 91 balance when he got it...
JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
August 12 2012 19:30 GMT
#315
On August 13 2012 04:26 Anta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 04:18 OpTiKDream wrote:
hasnt stephano alrdy been there before?


?? nope!


?? yes!

He participated in blizzard cup and I think he went to Korea a bit beforehand!
1338, one upping 1337
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 12 2012 19:30 GMT
#316
On August 13 2012 04:26 Anta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 04:18 OpTiKDream wrote:
hasnt stephano alrdy been there before?


?? nope!


yes? :o
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 12 2012 19:30 GMT
#317
On August 13 2012 04:27 NoGasfOu wrote:
59% in low gm is not that good. There are a ton of players with 60% or 70% in low gm


do you understand that account already had played games before he started using it?
#1 Grubby Fan.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 12 2012 19:31 GMT
#318
On August 13 2012 04:26 Anta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 04:18 OpTiKDream wrote:
hasnt stephano alrdy been there before?


?? nope!


Really? Even during his last stay in Korea?
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kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
August 12 2012 19:31 GMT
#319
That will release the beast!!
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 19:32:55
August 12 2012 19:32 GMT
#320
On August 13 2012 04:27 NoGasfOu wrote:
59% in low gm is not that good. There are a ton of players with 60% or 70% in low gm


Stephano got a 75% win ratio. The account he is using is a loan from coach lee and it had 99 wins and 99 losses on it when he started playing it

I do love we still got people trying to discredit Stephano´s imba skill:D

If I was you I would have sayd: "Took him 3 days to get into GM, what a scrub!"
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
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