EPTOn August 13 2012 04:30 JKM wrote:
?? yes!
He participated in blizzard cup and I think he went to Korea a bit beforehand!
?? yes!
He participated in blizzard cup and I think he went to Korea a bit beforehand!
sure month ago!
but what's your point??
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Anta
Germany434 Posts
sure month ago! but what's your point?? | ||
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:27 NoGasfOu wrote: 59% in low gm is not that good. There are a ton of players with 60% or 70% in low gm You're right, GM in Korea is scrub level. My grandma could do that in her sleep. ... | ||
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benKrO71
France65 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:27 NoGasfOu wrote: 59% in low gm is not that good. There are a ton of players with 60% or 70% in low gm Without the 180 games played before with bad winrate, he si actually more something like 65 .... | ||
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latan
740 Posts
?? blizzard cup was over seven months ago. | ||
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sickkungen
Sweden179 Posts
On August 11 2012 02:11 SilSol wrote: I feel like Stephano is the "new" Mondragon! Like he has so big potential atm. Hope he uses it well. Imo Stephano has surpassed Mondragon's achievements long ago. | ||
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Yolpo
France9 Posts
: 74,77% win ratio. | ||
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Shiori
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:45 sickkungen wrote: Imo Stephano has surpassed Mondragon's achievements long ago. What? That statement is so ridiculous it's not even funny.  I have to assume you're pretty new to the SC scene and haven't done your research; Mondragon is an absolute legend. | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:45 sickkungen wrote: Imo Stephano has surpassed Mondragon's achievements long ago. You weren't even around for SC:BW. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:45 sickkungen wrote: Imo Stephano has surpassed Mondragon's achievements long ago. Of course if you actually knew anything about what you're talking about or Mondragon in general, you would know that Mondragon hardly has any achievements. Therefore it doesn't take much to surpass them. Put Stephano in BW and he won't get any either. What Mondragon had, however, is skill and talent and that is only obvious to those who witnessed it. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:45 sickkungen wrote: Imo Stephano has surpassed Mondragon's achievements long ago. wtf ? you really followed sc1 ? mondragon was the foreign monster for a DECATE for over 10 years and you say overcome after 1 year ? oh man ... sad new world .... in sc1 even winning a map vs a korean was something BIG and he beat savior the best sc1 player of that (all?) time ... so dont talk if you dont followed sc1 for 10 years ok ? thanks alot sure stephano is great but as he even said he not wanna life in this scene, he not wanna play more then maximal 1 more year i doubt he can be the foreign hope for the future ... (as much as i want it) also epic haters say his winratio is low by him having played himself 74% ^^ and gm on korea ? pfff what a noob must he been to only be low gm ?? -_- guys wake up from dreamland ! | ||
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Lorch
Germany3682 Posts
I really hope he stops laddering so much and actually uses the great practice partners tsl and korea can provide him with, I don't think stephanos weakness is playing random bo1, but rather the mindgames going on in a bo5+ series and especially being able to mix up your builds at the right time. EDIT: Sry double post pls delete. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3682 Posts
Also lol at even comparing the random french guy who talks about quiting pro gaming all the time to someone as great as mondragon. I really hope he stops laddering so much and actually uses the great practice partners tsl and korea can provide him with, I don't think stephanos weakness is playing random bo1, but rather the mindgames going on in a bo5+ series and especially being able to mix up your builds at the right time. | ||
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elKaDor
Sweden376 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:58 CoR wrote: wtf ? you really followed sc1 ? mondragon was the foreign monster for a DECATE for over 10 years and you say overcome after 1 year ? oh man ... sad new world .... in sc1 even winning a map vs a korean was something BIG and he beat savior the best sc1 player of that (all?) time ... so dont talk if you dont followed sc1 for 10 years ok ? thanks alot sure stephano is great but as he even said he not wanna life in this scene, he not wanna play more then maximal 1 more year i doubt he can be the foreign hope for the future ... (as much as i want it) also epic haters say his winratio is low by him having played himself 74% ^^ and gm on korea ? pfff what a noob must he been to only be low gm ?? -_- guys wake up from dreamland ! Also there is very hard to say in SC2 because in SC:BW they had close to 0 chance to be a progamer,(every foreigner had to go to korea and that wasnt the easiest). In SC2 people can play from all over the world and be a "Pro". Mondragon studied while being an complete monster so NO u cant really compare stephano to Mondragon | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
Fu I mean Jaedong. | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
On August 13 2012 04:54 Squeegy wrote: Of course if you actually knew anything about what you're talking about or Mondragon in general, you would know that Mondragon hardly has any achievements. Therefore it doesn't take much to surpass them. Put Stephano in BW and he won't get any either. What Mondragon had, however, is skill and talent and that is only obvious to those who witnessed it. given that there were so few tournaments in BW, his achievement list is quite big. ECG 1st place WCG 3rd place TSL 2nd place and thousands of 1st places in smaller german or european tournaments/ladder tournaments/clanleagues etc. | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On August 13 2012 05:00 Lorch wrote: Seriously we are still hyping him for doing well on kr ladder? Yes it's the hardest ladder in the world, no that does not change the fact that it's only ladder and most top koreans use it primarily to offrace... Also lol at even comparing the random french guy who talks about quiting pro gaming all the time to someone as great as mondragon. I really hope he stops laddering so much and actually uses the great practice partners tsl and korea can provide him with, I don't think stephanos weakness is playing random bo1, but rather the mindgames going on in a bo5+ series and especially being able to mix up your builds at the right time. Lol at a random TL guy bashing Stephano when the likes of Jaedong, MC, MKP and Polt among others praise him on regular basis. | ||
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3682 Posts
On August 13 2012 05:05 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Lol at a random TL guy bashing Stephano when the likes of Jaedong, MC, MKP and Polt among others praise him on regular basis. I'm not bashing stephano, I'm stating that what he has achieved isn't nearly as impressive compared to what mondragon has said, especially when he talks about quiting in almost every interview. Besides that, since when is the opinion of pro gamers and indicator for anything, sure stephano is good and it's nice for him, I guess, if pros praise him, but that really doesn't mean much of anything imo. | ||
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dafunk
France521 Posts
On August 13 2012 05:07 Lorch wrote: I'm not bashing stephano, I'm stating that what he has achieved isn't nearly as impressive compared to what mondragon has said, especially when he talks about quiting in almost every interview. Besides that, since when is the opinion of pro gamers and indicator for anything, sure stephano is good and it's nice for him, I guess, if pros praise him, but that really doesn't mean much of anything imo. ahah sure. So when the best of the best say you're the best, it doesn't mean anything. Mondragon never won any international tournament with koreans. Stephano won like 4 or 5. Stephano has more achievements than Mondragon. /closed | ||
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