EPT[MLG] Format Changes at the Summer Championship - Page 12
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BuddhaMonk
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On July 28 2012 07:05 Dakure wrote: Edit: I don't think extended series is quite gone. Within the different stages there might be extended series (though since rematches can't happen in Open Bracket, only stages 2 and 3 might have them). I think that's the whole point with match history not carrying over from one stage into another. ie, if players A and B meet each other twice in Stage 2, then there will be extended series but if they met once in stage 2 and once in stage 3, then no extended series. It's pretty nice. Yes, in fact extended series is still alive - the only difference is that once you enter the Championship bracket (stage 3), all previous match histories (from stages 1 and 2) are reset or forgotten. Using the Championship Bracket example that MLG gave us, I think the only possible extended series matchups at that point are if "1st Group A" meets "1st Group D" again, if "1st Group C" meets "1st Group B" again, or if "1st Group A" meets "1st Group B" again. That example shows the maximum number of extended series (rematches) possible within that bracket. In fact, both the Championship bracket example (above) and the Group stages bracket example have a line under the "Key" section that says "Rematches = Extended Best of 7 Games". I don't like extended series, though. I think what people are always advocating for are two Best of "x" series instead, with the player with the advantage only need to win 1 BO series while the disadvantaged player has to win 2 BO series in a row. It's a slight difference, but it works better imo (it still gives an advantage to one player but it retains more of a "fresh start" feel than extended series). | ||
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
On July 29 2012 11:11 Benjamin99 wrote: Yea, lets just hand out invites to people who failed to even qualified to MLG arena. You dont see the problem giving out invites to fan favorite foreigners that lose to other players who qualified to MLG arena but coulnt qualify to the next MLG? I like tournaments with fan favorite foreigners, cause when they play the hope they win/pull a upset vs a korean is always there and that makes it more fun in compare to only korean vs korean games... and the people i putted there are all able to pull a upset (except idra maybe, but he has so much fans) | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 29 2012 11:29 WallieP wrote: I like tournaments with fan favorite foreigners, cause when they play the hope they win/pull a upset vs a korean is always there and that makes it more fun in compare to only korean vs korean games... and the people i putted there are all able to pull a upset (except idra maybe, but he has so much fans) Irrelevant. There were qualifiers and they failed to qualify. | ||
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
On July 29 2012 11:31 CosmicSpiral wrote: Irrelevant. There were qualifiers and they failed to qualify. Well, i just say im hoping it. It would increase my tourney-viewing experience a lot... and i think that goes for a lot of viewers, and its about the viewers right? I dunno if mlg got stats about it, but im pretty sure they see a increase of viewers on the streams that have the foreigner fan fav on | ||
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Jdog-EZ
United States9 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On July 29 2012 11:29 WallieP wrote: I like tournaments with fan favorite foreigners, cause when they play the hope they win/pull a upset vs a korean is always there and that makes it more fun in compare to only korean vs korean games... and the people i putted there are all able to pull a upset (except idra maybe, but he has so much fans) First off inviting those guys is a terrible idea, second off doing that basically makes the whole tournament stupid and how is TLO able to pull an upset more than Idra? Also the kespa guys would draw a lot of viewers as well, and given that there are 8 kespa teams and 8 invites, its probably kespa. I think having invites is dumb, but if you have them give them to DRG, MKP, Polt, and other players that couldnt attend arena but qualified for it, and/or players like Seed, MC, Squirtle, Nestea, MVP,Byun, Symbol who didnt qualify, but could easily win the whole thing and inviting them is justified by their performance in GSL. | ||
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Masvidal
Korea (South)213 Posts
"6. Mice and keyboards must utilize standard USB interfaces. Players may not use PS2 interface equipment." So players using a Qsenn/Samsung DT-35 (my keyboard of choice) of any decent mechanical keyboard will have to use a PS/2 to USB adapter, as opposed to the standard USB to PS/2 adapter. Why does this matter? PS/2 interface mechanical keyboards have NKRO (defined in wikipedia: This means that each key is scanned completely independently by the keyboard hardware, so that each keypress is correctly detected regardless of how many other keys are being pressed or held down at the time"), and lose this ability if used through USB. And many popular keyboards (probably popular because of NKRO) use PS/2 exclusively. Basically, MLG has banned NKRO (n-key rollover) from StarCraft 2. If your keyboard is PS/2, you have to downgrade its performance with a USB adapter. What next? All mice must use balls instead of optical or laser sensors? | ||
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
On July 29 2012 12:25 TommyP wrote: First off inviting those guys is a terrible idea, second off doing that basically makes the whole tournament stupid and how is TLO able to pull an upset more than Idra? Also the kespa guys would draw a lot of viewers as well, and given that there are 8 kespa teams and 8 invites, its probably kespa. I think having invites is dumb, but if you have them give them to DRG, MKP, Polt, and other players that couldnt attend arena but qualified for it, and/or players like Seed, MC, Squirtle, Nestea, MVP,Byun, Symbol who didnt qualify, but could easily win the whole thing and inviting them is justified by their performance in GSL. You want more of the same.. you have exactly what you hope for in the GSL right, only koreans with a single foreigner, go watch that. Asus/dh is foreigners mostly so if you like that, go there. MLG should be/was a tourney in the middle, favorite foreigners/cool koreans but right now its looking more like gslV2 | ||
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sandman1454
United States96 Posts
On July 28 2012 06:19 ImAbstracT wrote: Sounds good. Now, about extended series Sundance... ........................ the results dont carry over, so there isnt a situation where extended series is possible...................................... stop trying to be funny and read the thread properly. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
On July 29 2012 12:45 sandman1454 wrote: ........................ the results dont carry over, so there isnt a situation where extended series is possible...................................... stop trying to be funny and read the thread properly. They don't carry over from one stage to another, but within each stage extended series is possible. | ||
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
On July 29 2012 11:42 WallieP wrote: Well, i just say im hoping it. It would increase my tourney-viewing experience a lot... and i think that goes for a lot of viewers, and its about the viewers right? I dunno if mlg got stats about it, but im pretty sure they see a increase of viewers on the streams that have the foreigner fan fav on I respect your opinion and all, but I really feel like MLG is not the place for fan favourite foreign invites. MLG is much about merit-based placement. I don't watch MLG because of foreign hopes. I watch MLG to see who is the best in that particular weekend or whatever. If there happens to be a foriegner, good for him/her. And the best part would be that the foriegner earned it instead of being invited. There is a time and a place for invite-based tournaments, but I don't think MLG Championships are it. Now, if there are seeds (ie, top PL performers get a seed), then that's a merit-based seed, not quite an invite. And I'm okay with that. Similarly, if top placing MLG players were given an OSL seed at a later point in time, that would be pretty cool too. Sort of like the GSL-MLG exchange progam. It sort of feels like Champions League to me, and that's cool. | ||
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
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Ritchie
Canada206 Posts
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
Lol =( | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On July 29 2012 12:42 WallieP wrote: You want more of the same.. you have exactly what you hope for in the GSL right, only koreans with a single foreigner, go watch that. Asus/dh is foreigners mostly so if you like that, go there. MLG should be/was a tourney in the middle, favorite foreigners/cool koreans but right now its looking more like gslV2 ALL tournaments should favor the players that perform in their tournaments/qualifiers and nothing else. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 29 2012 11:42 WallieP wrote: Well, i just say im hoping it. It would increase my tourney-viewing experience a lot... and i think that goes for a lot of viewers, and its about the viewers right? I dunno if mlg got stats about it, but im pretty sure they see a increase of viewers on the streams that have the foreigner fan fav on If you pander to the most popular players of the moment, that will create tournament stagnation. It is one of the reasons why there is so much more KR talent compared to the foreigner scene. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
overall not impressed. | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
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Qwix
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