EPTKeSPA vs GSL players cross-match - Page 11
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Kevn23
United States80 Posts
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IStatistics
United States11 Posts
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wcr.4fun
Belgium686 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:55 Kajarn wrote: BW Pros playing a game they aren't familiar with vs SC2 Pros who know all the tricks and established meta game..... Just sounds like an oportunity for a few BW Pros to show they are good at adapting to a different game, thats it. BTW: BW Pros aren't necessarily talented, just faster. Look at Nestea, who never had the mechanics to play BW, but is a genious in SC2. Even in current SC2 world Nestea is considered a slower Zerg! Maybe BW Pros will change the game by playing faster, but I highly doubt it. They will change the game due to their work ethic more than anything, which is not gonna happen for 6months to 1 year time. lmao. BW is just as deep if not more deep than sc2. The fact that kespa players will be able to compete with pro's in half a year time (or one year) is the proof of it. You have to spent years of playing bw just to be considered terrible compared to the koreans. You've got iccup ranking, then fish ranking, then korean amateurs, then the B team and then you've got the actual korean pro's amongst which HUGE differences exist. 10 years of playing the same game and new revolutionary strategies and tricks were still being discovered, seems a lot more deep than sc2. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:55 Kajarn wrote: BW Pros playing a game they aren't familiar with vs SC2 Pros who know all the tricks and established meta game..... Just sounds like an oportunity for a few BW Pros to show they are good at adapting to a different game, thats it. BTW: BW Pros aren't necessarily talented, just faster. Look at Nestea, who never had the mechanics to play BW, but is a genious in SC2. Even in current SC2 world Nestea is considered a slower Zerg! Maybe BW Pros will change the game by playing faster, but I highly doubt it. They will change the game due to their work ethic more than anything, which is not gonna happen for 6months to 1 year time. The real fun is going to come in a couple months when they understand the game.. Its when they stop simply massing games to get a feel of how sc2 works and start tailoring their own strategies. Like when Slayers when for that blue flame strat that got nerfed. Or when Flash develops a new bw build from ground up that accounts for every possible weakness, yet remains optimal / can cut corners when needed based on what he scouts. These players are tactical geniuses. Their game sense / reaction times for RTS games are the best in the world. After they get adjusted in a couple months we can see whats really up. This is FAR from a perfect science though lol... just gotta wait and see | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
There are a lot of comments that say my exact one, but I am elaborating on them. To the people that say don't underestimate the BW pros, we aren't we are just not over-estimating them. If we were to put all the players who are at this very moment quite honestly the best we have ever had on a team and put them against the KeSPA pros, they would lose, convincingly most likely also. Its not about training, its about experience, and the SC2 pros have that out the ass compared to the BW pros. The BW pros, especially those like Bisu, who stated earlier that, "If i had ff I would never lose," are starting to realize how difficult SC2 is in much different way than how difficult BW is. They have not been new at something for at least a decade, and SC2 is a whole new game. The point I'm trying to make is that we should not over-estimate the BW pros and that we should enjoy watching the show but to not have HUGE hopes for the BW pros. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
 ) we dunno if kespa will drop WOL and pick up HOTS beta. If they stick to WOL everyone else will pick up on HOTS and Kespa will still be a little behind. If they switch over to HOTS midseason... | ||
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
On July 06 2012 05:32 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: For everyone saying HOTS will be a full reset allowing Kespa players to catch up: were only part way through this proleague season. If the beta comes out tomorrow (which it very well could ) we dunno if kespa will drop WOL and pick up HOTS beta. If they stick to WOL everyone else will pick up on HOTS and Kespa will still be a little behind. If they switch over to HOTS midseason... Now I am not sure how you would know if HotS beta is coming out tomorow. If it does then yes it levels the playing field quite a bit I still feel that the advantage will still be to GSL. | ||
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
Dohsairs vs TheBest-shees! | ||
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vorxaw
Canada245 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 05 2012 13:41 HappyTimePANDA wrote: Flash vs Symbol Bisu vs DRG I can dream lol unless flash and bisu have gotten 100x better than they were at the MLG thing, Symbol and DRG would just run them over. | ||
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Gruntt
United States175 Posts
I bet he romps everyone's faces. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5860 Posts
On July 06 2012 04:57 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: The real fun is going to come in a couple months when they understand the game.. Its when they stop simply massing games to get a feel of how sc2 works and start tailoring their own strategies. Like when Slayers when for that blue flame strat that got nerfed. Or when Flash develops a new bw build from ground up that accounts for every possible weakness, yet remains optimal / can cut corners when needed based on what he scouts. These players are tactical geniuses. Their game sense / reaction times for RTS games are the best in the world. After they get adjusted in a couple months we can see whats really up. This is FAR from a perfect science though lol... just gotta wait and see Saying that Nestea didn't have the mechanics is bullshit. sAviOr had around 250 apm for god's sake. T______T | ||
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mycro
Sweden1579 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:55 Kajarn wrote: BW Pros playing a game they aren't familiar with vs SC2 Pros who know all the tricks and established meta game..... Just sounds like an oportunity for a few BW Pros to show they are good at adapting to a different game, thats it. BTW: BW Pros aren't necessarily talented, just faster. Look at Nestea, who never had the mechanics to play BW, but is a genious in SC2. Even in current SC2 world Nestea is considered a slower Zerg! Maybe BW Pros will change the game by playing faster, but I highly doubt it. They will change the game due to their work ethic more than anything, which is not gonna happen for 6months to 1 year time. Flash, Savior, Stork, etc? | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
flash is still 350 apm 250 eapm, a better example would be movie, iirc he's barely 240 apm | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On July 06 2012 06:48 maybenexttime wrote: Saying that Nestea didn't have the mechanics is bullshit. sAviOr had around 250 apm for god's sake. T______T Thats the beauty of this game Being fast helps. But its not necessary. I remember reading an interview form Movie where he said his coach always thought he was just surfing the web instead of practicing cause he played so slow.. I think his apm avged around 180-240.. slower than sAviOr lol | ||
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