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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 23 2012 17:53 GMT
#361
Well that means I won't be paying anymore, unless they switch arena's to the streamworks player that is. HD twitch barely works for me as is.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
June 23 2012 17:56 GMT
#362
Bash MLG for not making Arenas fremium from the start, then ignore that LoL viewership probably contributed more to MLG's success than SC2.

Oh you guyzzz
Dyonos
Profile Joined November 2011
United States8 Posts
June 23 2012 18:16 GMT
#363
YAY more Starcraft to watch!
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 23 2012 18:20 GMT
#364
Yay!! Free ninety-nine! My favorite.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 18:23:44
June 23 2012 18:22 GMT
#365
On June 24 2012 02:56 Jojo131 wrote:
Bash MLG for not making Arenas fremium from the start, then ignore that LoL viewership probably contributed more to MLG's success than SC2.

Oh you guyzzz


Second. People who think this is because of SC2 are funny.

No doubt a sponsor stepped forward after the last MLG LoL event. CLG vs TSM finals, epic games all through out and huge numbers I'm sure.

Amazing news anyway. Last MLG was really good for LoL at least, didn't watch too much sc2.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
June 23 2012 18:24 GMT
#366
i get it guys, we screwed up!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 23 2012 18:34 GMT
#367
so sundance was drunk when he tweeted that?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
June 23 2012 18:38 GMT
#368
I don't think people understand just what kind of risk they tried to take with their PPV model in order to make something like this happen. It's from a business standpoint, in order to dish out something nice for people who are able to watch. I'm glad MLG is doing well on its fronts in the eSports world, and I hope I can contribute myself when I start making my own money! Cheers to Sundance!
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 18:42:11
June 23 2012 18:38 GMT
#369
LoL values were probably insane so they probably figured they couldn't do a freemium LoL event and not do the same for SC2 without the SC2 community feeling betrayed by MLG.

Still awesome.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
ChewbroCColi
Profile Joined July 2009
Denmark108 Posts
June 23 2012 18:39 GMT
#370
Great news. :D MLG delivers!
FGThePurp
Profile Joined June 2012
United States3 Posts
June 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#371
Awesome that gold is getting benefits for Arenas now! Yay eSports!!
Mvp~Taeja~BoxeR~Life~Polt~Illusion
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
June 23 2012 18:49 GMT
#372
So did anyone else see this and think that Sundance was just drunk?

"FREE SC2 FOR EVERYONE! BITCHES!" - Sundance.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
June 23 2012 19:29 GMT
#373
So I'd like to point out that this probably only became possible because of the money from LoL viewership. They don't depend on SC2 as much now, so they can afford to do stuff like this.

So no, this really was not a realistic option for them before, and now it is because of League of Legends. Take that for what you will.
aka ilovesharkpeople
sWs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States409 Posts
June 23 2012 19:36 GMT
#374
Sundance is a hero.
@swsc2
Warzone
Profile Joined March 2012
United States31 Posts
June 23 2012 19:44 GMT
#375
Just going to copy/past this from my earlier post b/c it seems that nobody read it and a bunch of you are still making ignorant comments.

----

If you paid any attention at all and understood how the world worked, you would see that because of the groundbreaking amount of viewers at the Spring Championships, yes the Championships, not the arenas, MLG was able to secure additional sponsor(s) to support their arenas. If you are supporting something it is in your interest to have the largest number of people viewing it possible, hence the removal of PPV. The sponsor subsidises MLG in return for their sacrifice, allowing the arrangment to benefit both sides, as well as benefit the viewer, you.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the the success/failure (Believe what you want, but they have publicly declared that the previous arenas were successes) of the Winter and Spring arenas. You have to understand that each business is run differently and on a different set of sponsors and a different sized budget with a different sized viewer base. For some tournaments freemium is practical, and for others it simply is not. MLG has gotten to the point where it now makes sense for them to offer their arenas for free because the benefits they receive from their sponsor are now more significant than the money they would receive from PPV.
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
June 23 2012 19:48 GMT
#376
Great.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
June 23 2012 19:53 GMT
#377
The power of LoL grows stronger and nothing can stop it.

Maybe Dota 2, but isn't it too late?
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
June 23 2012 20:02 GMT
#378
I'm glad that they are changing this! The old format worked better anyways, in my opinion. I'd be interested to see if they made more profit with the paid arenas or if they make more with the free ones. My guess would be ad revenue from the free events will trump the pay per view events.
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
andropopp
Profile Joined June 2012
United States88 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 20:09:50
June 23 2012 20:08 GMT
#379
On June 24 2012 04:53 fabiano wrote:
The power of LoL grows stronger and nothing can stop it.

Maybe Dota 2, but isn't it too late?


i feel it is too late. LoL is a completely different game from dota 2

so easy for computer game noobs to start playing and get addicted

so easy for on-facebook-all-day-computer-nerd-females to play it so guys feel like playing it could get them chicks

massive numbers people playing the game plus teams like CLG and TSM being the main stars since koreans dont dominate it as badly and since riot advertises every tournament a ton and LoL has a much higher playerbase than sc2 makes it more likely for massive amounts of western audience to tune in and get addicted to the drama of the pro scene and create emotional connections to the top teams so it has huge viewer numbers

damn i hate you LoL for doing everything right
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 23 2012 20:10 GMT
#380
On June 23 2012 12:14 Boblhead wrote:
Sundance finally realizes that you can run a free stream and still remain profitable

>Literally took him fucking 2+ years to realize this?


Please tell us more about your knowledge in this area, it sure sounds interesting.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
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