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doner0
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
June 27 2012 05:13 GMT
#601
sick, i got tired of not watching sc2 from mlg :D
Arayvenn
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada22 Posts
June 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#602
About time, this helps keep interest throughout the circuit instead of just the championships. I really wish they'd go back to the old system though, I know things remain largely unchanged, I just think it was easier to follow.
All in again, and again, and again, and again, and again
BlacKcuD
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany107 Posts
June 27 2012 09:01 GMT
#603
I like. Growth hopefully means more public acceptance someday.
Avid map maker and e-sport enthusiast.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
June 27 2012 09:09 GMT
#604
On June 25 2012 21:06 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 21:05 Icky wrote:
Too late for me, to be honest. When they changed the streaming to all P2V, I stopped watching SC2, and the flame is gone. Good for everyone else, of course. Good on you, MLG.


you completely stopped watching starcraft 2 because one tournament out of the dozens that are happening all the time made some of their events PPV?


never underestimate neckbead hate, if we could harness it and turn it into energy the world would never go dark.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
June 28 2012 15:53 GMT
#605
To all of you who still believe MLG just made so much money they felt like not needing more:
Inside the Game ep45 with DjWheat, Incontrol, Idra and Painuser http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/322804988
Just before the 2 hour mark they discuss this situation.

Funny how many times I've been called a conspiracy theorist in this thread (hell, I even got banned with the reason "get out the tinfoil hats") but as it turns out either these 4 pillars of the community are also crazy conspiracy theorists or like Incontrol says, 98% of you have no idea how business works. Painuser even goes as far as to use my Dreamhack examples. Ofcourse you got Total Biscuit on your side of the argument, but well, even in this episode of ItG his community knowledge get's seriously questioned.

And a massive screw you to the mod that banned me for being fucking right.

Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
June 28 2012 15:56 GMT
#606
On June 29 2012 00:53 Scootaloo wrote:
To all of you who still believe MLG just made so much money they felt like not needing more:
Inside the Game ep45 with DjWheat, Incontrol, Idra and Painuser http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/322804988
Just before the 2 hour mark they discuss this situation.

Funny how many times I've been called a conspiracy theorist in this thread (hell, I even got banned with the reason "get out the tinfoil hats") but as it turns out either these 4 pillars of the community are also crazy conspiracy theorists or like Incontrol says, 98% of you have no idea how business works. Painuser even goes as far as to use my Dreamhack examples. Ofcourse you got Total Biscuit on your side of the argument, but well, even in this episode of ItG his community knowledge get's seriously questioned.

And a massive screw you to the mod that banned me for being fucking right.



They were talking out of their ass.

Their words, from their mouths. That's what you're agreeing with, ass talk.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
June 28 2012 16:03 GMT
#607
On June 29 2012 00:56 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 00:53 Scootaloo wrote:
To all of you who still believe MLG just made so much money they felt like not needing more:
Inside the Game ep45 with DjWheat, Incontrol, Idra and Painuser http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/322804988
Just before the 2 hour mark they discuss this situation.

Funny how many times I've been called a conspiracy theorist in this thread (hell, I even got banned with the reason "get out the tinfoil hats") but as it turns out either these 4 pillars of the community are also crazy conspiracy theorists or like Incontrol says, 98% of you have no idea how business works. Painuser even goes as far as to use my Dreamhack examples. Ofcourse you got Total Biscuit on your side of the argument, but well, even in this episode of ItG his community knowledge get's seriously questioned.

And a massive screw you to the mod that banned me for being fucking right.



They were talking out of their ass.

Their words, from their mouths. That's what you're agreeing with, ass talk.


Do you mean you don't agree with them or that they where trolling?
If you watched it, I think it's pretty clear that they where not trolling, if you believe that you and these random Teamliquidians know better then these 3 progamers and a caster that actually casted games with Snoop Dogg, be my guest, but you must realize how ridiculous that sounds and how many times that has actually happened?
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
June 28 2012 16:07 GMT
#608
On June 29 2012 01:03 Scootaloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 00:56 Hnnngg wrote:
On June 29 2012 00:53 Scootaloo wrote:
To all of you who still believe MLG just made so much money they felt like not needing more:
Inside the Game ep45 with DjWheat, Incontrol, Idra and Painuser http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/322804988
Just before the 2 hour mark they discuss this situation.

Funny how many times I've been called a conspiracy theorist in this thread (hell, I even got banned with the reason "get out the tinfoil hats") but as it turns out either these 4 pillars of the community are also crazy conspiracy theorists or like Incontrol says, 98% of you have no idea how business works. Painuser even goes as far as to use my Dreamhack examples. Ofcourse you got Total Biscuit on your side of the argument, but well, even in this episode of ItG his community knowledge get's seriously questioned.

And a massive screw you to the mod that banned me for being fucking right.



They were talking out of their ass.

Their words, from their mouths. That's what you're agreeing with, ass talk.


Do you mean you don't agree with them or that they where trolling?
If you watched it, I think it's pretty clear that they where not trolling, if you believe that you and these random Teamliquidians know better then these 3 progamers and a caster that actually casted games with Snoop Dogg, be my guest, but you must realize how ridiculous that sounds and how many times that has actually happened?


They actually said (iNcontrol specifically), "We are talking out of our ass."

I'm not making a judgement/opinion/whatever, I am repeating what they said. Idra then talked about the sponsor and iNcontrol backed down. If you were watching live, Clutch and the chat were collectively facepalming at the ass-talk.
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
June 28 2012 16:07 GMT
#609
paid for all mlg's so far glad this one is free : )
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 28 2012 16:18 GMT
#610
On June 29 2012 00:56 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 00:53 Scootaloo wrote:
To all of you who still believe MLG just made so much money they felt like not needing more:
Inside the Game ep45 with DjWheat, Incontrol, Idra and Painuser http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/322804988
Just before the 2 hour mark they discuss this situation.

Funny how many times I've been called a conspiracy theorist in this thread (hell, I even got banned with the reason "get out the tinfoil hats") but as it turns out either these 4 pillars of the community are also crazy conspiracy theorists or like Incontrol says, 98% of you have no idea how business works. Painuser even goes as far as to use my Dreamhack examples. Ofcourse you got Total Biscuit on your side of the argument, but well, even in this episode of ItG his community knowledge get's seriously questioned.

And a massive screw you to the mod that banned me for being fucking right.



They were talking out of their ass.

Their words, from their mouths. That's what you're agreeing with, ass talk.


Everyone is talking out of their asses, no one knows for sure and probably we will never know but with just some logical thinking you cant deny that everything that MLG said about this doesn't make much sense.

We know the numbers of the Arena's and yes they probably did well economically cause 5k passes * 10/20 dollars in a weekend is a lot of money, which is hard (impossible) to get from ad revenue and sponsors. But i can guarantee you (well MLG admitted it basically) the sponsors were not happy with the numbers and the numbers since the first Arena were probably declining.

In the long run the PPV model for the Arena's was doomed, if it really worked that well there's no reason to throw it away. We heard the talks from Sundance how it's a business but now they are acting like a charity cause guess what, our PPV model worked so good we dont need it anymore after 4 months, doesn't make sense.

Me personally doesn't believe anything MLG says. When they say something will be a success they always announce it was a success afterwords without any transparency etc (why hide viewing numbers?). And this from a company who screws up so many simple things is kinda hard to believe.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
June 28 2012 16:20 GMT
#611
Wow this is really nice meng! Pretty glad when i read this
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
June 28 2012 16:24 GMT
#612
On June 29 2012 01:07 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 01:03 Scootaloo wrote:
On June 29 2012 00:56 Hnnngg wrote:
On June 29 2012 00:53 Scootaloo wrote:
To all of you who still believe MLG just made so much money they felt like not needing more:
Inside the Game ep45 with DjWheat, Incontrol, Idra and Painuser http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/322804988
Just before the 2 hour mark they discuss this situation.

Funny how many times I've been called a conspiracy theorist in this thread (hell, I even got banned with the reason "get out the tinfoil hats") but as it turns out either these 4 pillars of the community are also crazy conspiracy theorists or like Incontrol says, 98% of you have no idea how business works. Painuser even goes as far as to use my Dreamhack examples. Ofcourse you got Total Biscuit on your side of the argument, but well, even in this episode of ItG his community knowledge get's seriously questioned.

And a massive screw you to the mod that banned me for being fucking right.



They were talking out of their ass.

Their words, from their mouths. That's what you're agreeing with, ass talk.


Do you mean you don't agree with them or that they where trolling?
If you watched it, I think it's pretty clear that they where not trolling, if you believe that you and these random Teamliquidians know better then these 3 progamers and a caster that actually casted games with Snoop Dogg, be my guest, but you must realize how ridiculous that sounds and how many times that has actually happened?


They actually said (iNcontrol specifically), "We are talking out of our ass."

I'm not making a judgement/opinion/whatever, I am repeating what they said. Idra then talked about the sponsor and iNcontrol backed down. If you were watching live, Clutch and the chat were collectively facepalming at the ass-talk.


You mean when Idra said "I'm gonna play Devil's advocate, because I feel retarded for being part of those people [people that believed MLG's news statement, which he believed in before Incontrol had his abacus rant]", the most positive thing even he could say about it was that "It's not entirely unthinkable".
And your Incontrol quote comes from DjWheat saying they don't have a glass wall into the MLG office so it's all speculation ofcourse, to which Incontrol replies, "Ofcourse it's speculation, I'm talking out of my ass, we're trying to be as logical as possible, it's possible ..., it still does'nt make sense to me.".

Incontrols point was that he nor the other guys have perfect information, ofcourse it's speculation, MLG isn't going to tell them inside stuff like this.

Unless you turned off your ears during the statements after the ones you quoted or where too busy reading chat you're just quoting things completely out of context to try to salvage some form of argument.

And honestly, I don't care what chat might've thought, most of the time it's full of idiots, and Clutch, only saw the guy once or twice, can't say I give him as much credibility as the usual ItG members.
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
June 28 2012 16:39 GMT
#613
That's awesome that the previous MLG Annaheim was successful enough to allow this.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 28 2012 16:58 GMT
#614
On June 29 2012 00:56 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 00:53 Scootaloo wrote:
To all of you who still believe MLG just made so much money they felt like not needing more:
Inside the Game ep45 with DjWheat, Incontrol, Idra and Painuser http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/322804988
Just before the 2 hour mark they discuss this situation.

Funny how many times I've been called a conspiracy theorist in this thread (hell, I even got banned with the reason "get out the tinfoil hats") but as it turns out either these 4 pillars of the community are also crazy conspiracy theorists or like Incontrol says, 98% of you have no idea how business works. Painuser even goes as far as to use my Dreamhack examples. Ofcourse you got Total Biscuit on your side of the argument, but well, even in this episode of ItG his community knowledge get's seriously questioned.

And a massive screw you to the mod that banned me for being fucking right.



They were talking out of their ass.

Their words, from their mouths. That's what you're agreeing with, ass talk.


What the hell do you think Sundance and the MLG crew are doing... You attribute some weight to Clutch and twitch TV chat and then talk about agreeing with "ass talk"? Any sensible thought should trigger you to know that the "facts" MLG has presented do not add up to "we made so much money that we don't need to make more". It's a little disturbing how many people just accept this stuff at face value without any thought whatsoever.
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
June 28 2012 17:01 GMT
#615
On June 23 2012 12:08 Wafflelisk wrote:
This is so awesome for me. Sad I missed out in the past, and was thinking of buying this time.

Nooo don't tell them! Then they'll make it money again >.<

On a serious note, I think that they're gonna get a TON more sponsors after summer with all the viewers they're going to get.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
June 28 2012 17:12 GMT
#616
I paid for an ppv event and know it feels like it was all a waste... because it felt great paying for something that many folks would like to see but didn't pay.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
LuckyCharms45
Profile Joined April 2011
United States37 Posts
July 01 2012 06:34 GMT
#617
Regardless of the reasons behind why the arenas are now free, I'm just pumped to be able to see some more sick StarCraft!
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
July 01 2012 06:51 GMT
#618
On June 26 2012 21:05 An2quamaraN wrote:
Very good.

Obviously, you need to be a sheeple to think it's because they wanted to make us fans feel better (what 99% people here thinks, even though they showed countless times how greedy MLG is) but it doesn't matter. Wish it would stay like that for a long time.

Clearly you're a sheep if you believe them how could anyone ever disagree with this age old insult :O. It's only appropriate to think of every conspiracy out there an then put faith in those conspiracies. So then 9/11 was an inside job oh boy man oh man only sheeple believe the physical evidence proving otherwise. Now on a more serious note pipe down please your conspiracy shenanigans and bashing of others is seriously just not wanted so please make every attempt to do otherwise I know my already exhausted an frustrated brain would thank you as I can only speak for myself and not others. MLG Arena pays for all those in it to be flown out and accommodated which costs as I'v said previously ALOT OF MONEY! With the help of a sponsor(s) now they can afford to open it up to a more public audience then those of the ppv variety. So please just look at the most obvious answer from time to time cause more so then not it's the right one sir.
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
July 01 2012 07:13 GMT
#619
I paid for the arenas and would have continued, but I am glad that I can use that money elsewhere now. Thank you for the great content mlg
Administrator
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
July 01 2012 07:38 GMT
#620
I love to see eSports grow and all but I really wish MLG would go back to how it was when they had halo 3 as the main game on the circuit. The stream was better IMO. They always had games on-never retarded crowd shots. I guess it all revolves around revenue somehow.
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