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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 23 2012 21:30 GMT
#401
On June 24 2012 05:30 Scootaloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 05:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 23 2012 12:14 Boblhead wrote:
Sundance finally realizes that you can run a free stream and still remain profitable

>Literally took him fucking 2+ years to realize this?


Please tell us more about your knowledge in this area, it sure sounds interesting.


Ting from IPL says there is no need to ever go PPV, he might not be making profits, but he never intended to, meaning that as Sundance went into this scene looking for the big bucks that might just be the wrong approach to a scene like this, especially when it's still so young.

And Biscuit, bitching about somebody providing no deep analysis is only valid if you follow it up with some knowledgeable information yourself.

On the other hand, IPL is backed by IGN, which is a very profitable gaming website, whereas MLG is just a company organizing competitive gaming events, not backed by a mother company. Basically, MLG has to be profitable, especially with the amount of events they organize each year.
REFLEX_500
Profile Joined February 2012
162 Posts
June 23 2012 21:30 GMT
#402
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:26 Robinsa wrote:
Good thing, for everyone. Im glad MLG realised this was a poor buisness decision and backed down. It means a lot for the future of both them and the community.




Wait a minute!! How is a business charging for a service it provides a poor business decision?!

REFLEX_500
KonanTenshi
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden210 Posts
June 23 2012 21:37 GMT
#403
I like this move, I don't mind having lower quality as long as those who pay for it gets this little extra bonus worth the money they charge.
Curious
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
June 23 2012 21:37 GMT
#404
On June 24 2012 06:30 REFLEX_500 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:26 Robinsa wrote:
Good thing, for everyone. Im glad MLG realised this was a poor buisness decision and backed down. It means a lot for the future of both them and the community.




Wait a minute!! How is a business charging for a service it provides a poor business decision?!

REFLEX_500


Why do you sign your posts?
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
June 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#405
On June 24 2012 06:30 REFLEX_500 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:26 Robinsa wrote:
Good thing, for everyone. Im glad MLG realised this was a poor buisness decision and backed down. It means a lot for the future of both them and the community.




Wait a minute!! How is a business charging for a service it provides a poor business decision?!

REFLEX_500

Dude, you know you can just go put your signature to say your own name and it will accomplish the same thing and be less annoying for the rest of us right?
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 21:54:22
June 23 2012 21:53 GMT
#406
On June 24 2012 06:30 REFLEX_500 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:26 Robinsa wrote:
Good thing, for everyone. Im glad MLG realised this was a poor buisness decision and backed down. It means a lot for the future of both them and the community.




Wait a minute!! How is a business charging for a service it provides a poor business decision?!

REFLEX_500


Well lets say for example Yahoo starts to charge money for using their search engine and Google does not, you think thats a smart business decision from yahoo?
Same thing applies to MLG, is it smart to charge for a event when you can watch basically the same thing a week or even sometimes a few days later for free?

I dont think so.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
June 23 2012 21:59 GMT
#407
On June 24 2012 06:30 REFLEX_500 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:26 Robinsa wrote:
Good thing, for everyone. Im glad MLG realised this was a poor buisness decision and backed down. It means a lot for the future of both them and the community.




Wait a minute!! How is a business charging for a service it provides a poor business decision?!

REFLEX_500


It may or may not have been a poor business decision after all, which may or may not have led to them making it free after trying it twice?!

Xpace
REFLEX_500
Profile Joined February 2012
162 Posts
June 23 2012 22:02 GMT
#408
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:53 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 06:30 REFLEX_500 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:26 Robinsa wrote:
Good thing, for everyone. Im glad MLG realised this was a poor buisness decision and backed down. It means a lot for the future of both them and the community.




Wait a minute!! How is a business charging for a service it provides a poor business decision?!

REFLEX_500


Well lets say for example Yahoo starts to charge money for using their search engine and Google does not, you think thats a smart business decision from yahoo?
Same thing applies to MLG, is it smart to charge for a event when you can watch basically the same thing a week or even sometimes a few days later for free?

I dont think so.


Well if you don't support the company providing the content, then you won't pay for it. Maybe what MLG should do, is make a fee for all of the content? I don't think that the guy who puts the VODs online does it for free. Why should MLG not charge for it?

REFLEX_500
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
June 23 2012 22:08 GMT
#409
On June 24 2012 06:12 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 06:02 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:47 Tyree wrote:
If something is doing "well" then you continue to charge for it, if however its doing badly you change your business practice.

It clearly was not making enough money, they even slashed the price and if looking at this decision, even that didnt work.

eSports is just not ready for a PPV model, fine that they tried but there are about 200 reasons why its not even close to being ready for that. UFC PPVs are down from 2005-2007 era, WWE PPVs are down, only draws in boxing are Mayweather and Pacman, the whole model of PPV is in danger. How can a competitive gaming company hope it would go well for them when much larger companies with a marketing machine of millions of dollars cant make it work most of the time?

Those of you who really believe that they are doing this because "gosh darnit we made so much money that we just have to give it out for free!" are pretty naive and gullible.

I cannot wait for Apple to start giving out free Iphones and Ipads because they have been making billions the last couple of years, surely this is normal practice for successful companies?

Your reading comprehension is clearly under par.

He's not saying "WE MADE SO MUCH MONEY WITH THE ARENAS THAT WE WANT TO GIVE THEM TO YOU FOR FREE NOW"

He's saying "We were able to turn a profit with the Pay-Per-View model, but thanks to the astounding numbers we pulled at our Spring Championship event we were able to secure more investments which will allow us to bring you that content on the same freemium model that our Championship events use"

I wish people would think before they say something stupid.



I re read what he said and... i was right.

The PPV model did not work out for them, it was a model they tried but saw declining numbers.

You can be as condescending as you want, but it only clouds your own judgement.

I don't see anything about declining numbers in anything about what he said.

I think the only evidence you have of declining numbers is terrible math and rough estimates looking at total TwitchTV viewers during Arena broadcasts.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
FloKi
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1490 Posts
June 23 2012 22:26 GMT
#410
This ''REFLEX'' guy is not doing the forum right is he?

Where do whores go?
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 23 2012 22:27 GMT
#411
freemium model is the way to go. Ask LOL about that :D
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
June 23 2012 22:27 GMT
#412
Thank you!!!

I loved the MLG arenas, they were so good and I was sad that they were so expensive This is very good news, I don't care if I have to watch lots of ads, as long as I support eSports and MLG can continue to produce awesome tournaments. Thanks guys.
Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
June 23 2012 22:31 GMT
#413
I like these news, I feel it's fair that you can watch the events for free, and that the people who pay get, say, better quality of the streams.

And this REFLEX dude... is doing it wrong.
REFLEX_500
Profile Joined February 2012
162 Posts
June 23 2012 22:34 GMT
#414
Doing what wrong?
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
June 23 2012 22:38 GMT
#415
On June 24 2012 07:34 REFLEX_500 wrote:
Doing what wrong?

REFLEX_500


It's okay I fixed it for you.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
June 23 2012 22:40 GMT
#416
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2012 06:26 Robinsa wrote:
Good thing, for everyone. Im glad MLG realised this was a poor buisness decision and backed down. It means a lot for the future of both them and the community.



The arenas were a separate and self-sustaining part of MLG. It was not a poor business decision and it did not appear to in any way effect the viewership of their large events.

Also they didn't "back down". LoL gave them a ton of viewership, which translates to sponsor dollars. They aren't doing this because they have to, they are doing it because now that they picked up LoL, which is likely going to become their #1 game, they can do this.
aka ilovesharkpeople
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 23 2012 22:41 GMT
#417
I really hated MLG for the PPV arenas, and it was the only time I ever said "killing esports". But if it's free then good I'm happy and I'll forgive them for the previous one.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
June 23 2012 22:41 GMT
#418
REFLEX reminds me of a guy 2 or 3 years ago who would post and sign his posts with an image with his nick full of lens-flare and lighting effects haha
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
June 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#419
Glad to hear this :3
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
June 23 2012 22:57 GMT
#420
Yay for Robert as he saves Esports on the gd studio as he says Dreamhack will never have pay walls for hd streams. MLG accepts defeat and surrenders pay model.
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