MLG Arenas now free - Page 22

On June 24 2012 08:17 WackaAlpaca wrote:
It's sad that people are being happy about this, we have deserved free streams the entire time.
Shame on you sheeple.

On June 24 2012 08:17 WackaAlpaca wrote:
It's sad that people are being happy about this, we have deserved free streams the entire time.
Shame on you sheeple.

On June 24 2012 09:13 Moxi wrote:


Yes, I agree. About time they realized this.

On June 24 2012 05:41 VirgilSC2 wrote:

IPL is also probably the biggest money sink of a league there is. Sundance isn't trying to "make big bucks" he's just trying to keep running a league financially viable, which I think he's doing a great job of. Don't get me wrong, David Ting is a smart guy and has a huge passion for eSports, but the reason he gets away with so much stuff is the relatively huge financial backing he's got. He's still in the stage of trying to make IPL break even.

Perhaps if he wasn't so worried about his public image, he might be past that and be in the stage Sundance is in.

On June 24 2012 09:17 WolfintheSheep wrote:

Yes, because obviously this is about what you "deserve", and not about MLG making some money for once and making new partnerships...

Love how Sundance basically says "Money's looking good now, so we won't be greedy" and everyone is like "Haha, Sundance figures out PPV is failure!"

On June 24 2012 09:18 Scootaloo wrote:


I think you miss the point though, IPL being a money sink is not a problem as it's paid for by the sponsors, mainly IGN, viewers are worth this lost money according to the sponsors.

I don't get where you get the impression IPL is the biggest moneysink, MLG seems to spend money like crazy (even on the LO3 where they interviewed Sundance about PPV Wheat and Scoots point this out) where they could easily cut corners if they cared enough.

Seems to me one of the major problems of MLG is lack of sponsors, whereas IPL managed to create an incredible deal with IGN or the less stable GSL Pepsi one, MLG has no such backing, something which I can only really attribute to Sundance, as it is his job to do so or hire someone capable of it.

And about Ting's public image, you're just projecting your desire for everything to be PPV because Sundance told you that was the only way to make this viable, just after Sundance completely destroyed his own image the stupidest thing to do would be to go PPV as well, especially if there is no pressing need to.

Rather Sundance should not have been so stupid as to force a system onto a community that is still far too young for it, him backtracking just proves his new system isn't working and he's desperately trying to gain favor again.

The only reason to need PPV when it's been proven you can manage just fine without is a desire for more money or an inability to attract sponsors, with Sundance living in a seaside villa, MLG being the biggest American e-sports tourney and his great love for a dumb game like Halo I'm inclined to believe Sundance doesn't really care about SC2 if it wasn't for the money.

On June 24 2012 09:21 Peleus wrote:
I'm sorry, I have to say this, but so many people on TL and in the entire SC2 community in general are entitled arseholes.

No, you do not 'deserve' free streams. In fact all the vast majority of the community has done the vast majority of the time is bitch and moan about whatever changes are put in place, be it a company actually trying to become financially viable, blizzard making balance decisions, whatever the topic.

Really, people need to get a reality check and realise what happens in the real world. Just because you add 1 to a viewer ship number does not mean MLG should bow down to you and your every request. Sorry I had to say this, but this community is just getting worse and worse.

Otherwise, thank you MLG for making a great event have the option of being free to watch, I'll definitely be tuning in and enjoying it.

On June 24 2012 09:40 Scootaloo wrote:


So many people are whipped sheep.

You're basically saying that people should'nt voice their opinions if they are negative about certain companies you seem to have a hard on for.
If Blizzard massively fucks up balance, we shouldn't complain.
If MLG charges 20 dollars for a 3 day tournament viewing, we shouldn't complain, just suck it up and swallow.

Funny how our whining made MLG cut it's PPV price in half and how Blizzard has directly responded numerous times to the massive amounts of complaint they got from fans. Seems to me our whining is changing the community for the better, if you can't take it, don't fucking read it.

About the real world, IF this was the real world MLG would be bankrupt for trying the Arena's, nobody will pay for product you can get elsewhere for free, MLG is just really lucky they created enough sympathy beforehand so sheep like you will keep buying it without a second thought.

And about MLG trying to become financially viable, MLG's inability to attract sponsors should not mean that the only way to become viable is via leeching more money from the viewers then you already are.

On June 24 2012 09:34 VirgilSC2 wrote:

First of all, MLG has better sponsors than IPL, that's pretty much a fact. You should probably do some research.

IGN does not sponsor IPL, IGN IS IPL. IGN didn't say, "Hey, look at this cool league they're starting, we should sponsor it!" they said "Hey, lets get into this eSports thing and start our own league" David Ting, before IPL, was an employee at IGN. MLG also has the advantage of bringing in pure VC investments. I don't understand what you don't get about IPL being in the red horribly and MLG not even being close to that bad.

You're "inclined to believe" he doesn't care about SC2? Have you ever actually had a conversation with the guy?

The naivety of some people on this forum astounds me, just because you perceive MLG as the bad guy and IPL as the good guy doesn't mean that IPL is actually the better business model.