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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 18:29:12
June 09 2012 18:28 GMT
#1921
On June 10 2012 03:23 Blasterion wrote:
Well time start to work on my protoss, you will be remembered as my favorite race,terran.


oh come on man, I stuck with zerg through thick and thin in WoL, I expect you to do the same! no not really, you can go and take the easy route if you like, but I wouldn't give up quite yet though. I never expect blizzard to just leave balance alone as we've seen in WoL, they are willing to go to drastic measures to make things fair. I'm still not convinced they will leave zerg alone after the queen buff, they are going to nerf zerg eventually, they are just waiting so they can observe the changes and adjust.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 09 2012 18:28 GMT
#1922
On June 10 2012 03:25 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:24 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:21 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:16 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:50 zmansman17 wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:46 HeroMystic wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:33 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:28 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:26 emc wrote:
[quote]

why don't we calm down the rage until the beta comes out and balance actually matters?


I'm willing to wait and see but what they showed here is nothing to be excited about . Its looks like a turd and you guys are trying to polish it for Terran players but it still looks like a polished turd.


the battle reports reminded me of BW, so yeah, I'm FUCKING excited the way this game is turning out. I'm sorry that Toss/Zerg are getting all the love, but I'm sure as fucking shit that blizzard won't leave terran in the dust. This is an incomplete game and it already looks fucking awesome. The TvZ in particular had engagements all over the map, the supplies never reached 200/200 death ball status and we actually got to see a lot of tech. GRANTED these weren't pros playing their A game but it still looked fucking cool, I can't wait to see what pros can do with the game... I bet reapers in WoL looked fair to you? then some guy named morrow shit on everyone with reapers, probably still thought they were fair huh? I play zerg but I keep my bias under control, maybe you should to until we get an open beta.

you and zmansman17 are just circle jerking, we get it ok? you are unhappy, get over it.


Granted I'm Terran, but I'm not gonna commentate on balance 'n such at this stage of the game. However, I have to admit that Terran is looking pretty damn boring this update compared to Protoss and Zerg. And I'm not talking about balance (because I'm sure Terran will still win games), I'm talking about unit designs.

We got an A-Moving Mech Buster and a mechanical Zealot with no speed boost. We have laughably bad Reapers with Combat Drugs, and we have Mines. The Mines are the only unit I'm legitmately excited for because of all the useful applications I can see in them. Combined with the Ghost nerf, and there just isn't any "fun" unit within the Terran army anymore. Zerg and Protoss got some absolutely crazy shit and as a Terran player that makes me pretty jealous.

I fucking love the Raven, and I want to use it more. However it costs so much gas and takes a year and a half to upgrade that there's no plausible way to use it in the game until you hit late game.


Yeah I think this is how a lot of Terrans feel. We wanted late game options. We wanted to use the Raven. We wanted the ghost back. And what do we get: microless battle hellion and a mediocre mech unit
The more I think about it the more I think no one will play Terran in HoTS. And like the other guy said i'm not talking about balance. The fact is that with all the crap Zerg and Protoss is getting bio is seriously looking terrible. TvZ Zerg just has so many things that destroy bio now, banelings, fungal, locusts and the viper cloud will all rape bio. TvP is looking really impossible. Mech will not work against protoss ever in SC2 as long as Protoss has warp gate, warp prisms and blink stalkers. And the same MMMGV against Protoss with all those new units and abilities will obviously be a nightmare. Even TvT will probably be worse because of the battle hellion/ mines ruining marine tank battles. And plus, do Terran players really want to play some stupid turtle mech 1a style in all matchups?

And if that isn't enough, the fact that Terran has the hardest macro and the least interesting new units will cause everyone to jump ship to Zerg and Protoss. I really hope I'm wrong because I don't want to play anything but Terran but damn man I just don't see it.



Part 1: The community - WE WANT MECH! WHY YOU NO LET US MECH BLIZZ?
Part 2: Blizz introduces some pre-beta mech ideas at MLG
Part 3: The community - MECH IS TURTLEY AND 1A, DONT WANNA PLAY
Part 4: The end
Yeah because we asked for the warhound that auto attacks mech targets itself and slower moving hellions that cant be micro'd. And yeah borrwing mines is really exciting micro.



That's how mech always been (in BW anyways), slow and methodical, like Flash. Build your metal ball of doom and slowly push your giant army to victory.


Or do a 2 fact push with vultures and spidermines, microing like crazy. That's mech too.


That's just a cheesy bullshit TvP build that only someone like Leta would be proud of.
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Esk23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States447 Posts
June 09 2012 18:29 GMT
#1923
Anyone defending Terran thinking it's good from what you've seen in the HotS video need to get your heads checked, seriously. Mech will simply not work with Ultra charge and that Viper Abduct ability. Imagine Broodlord/infestor/mass queen how that's already unbeatable for Terran and combine that with Vipers lololol. Bio will be bad too, imagine how infestor/viper is ganna be, Ultra charge will rape bio like nothing. Game is ganna take some serious patches to balance out. Terran is already terrible right now in WoL.

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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
June 09 2012 18:29 GMT
#1924
I thought the tempest would have been cooler 22 range is ridiculous would rather have 9 range and decent DPS. Everything else looks exciting
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 09 2012 18:30 GMT
#1925
On June 10 2012 03:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:16 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:50 zmansman17 wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:46 HeroMystic wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:33 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:28 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:26 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:23 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:21 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:20 s3rp wrote:
[quote]

Dude there are people suggesting adding Marine to your Mech/Air army. How is that going to work ?


I'm not suggesting that. I'm suggesting that if a terran doesn't have a starport, they are doing it wrong.

I think thor/mine/viking will be the AA you need, and if not? raven with PDD will surely help.


And i disagree with that Thors fucking suck if they don't get a change and Mines would be totally unreliable to consistently deal damage.

The biggest problem is Mech cannot take more than 3 Bases safely and subsequently doesn't have enough Gas to finance an army strong enough while also keeping up with Upgrades on everything. i don't see how this changes.


why don't we calm down the rage until the beta comes out and balance actually matters?


I'm willing to wait and see but what they showed here is nothing to be excited about . Its looks like a turd and you guys are trying to polish it for Terran players but it still looks like a polished turd.


the battle reports reminded me of BW, so yeah, I'm FUCKING excited the way this game is turning out. I'm sorry that Toss/Zerg are getting all the love, but I'm sure as fucking shit that blizzard won't leave terran in the dust. This is an incomplete game and it already looks fucking awesome. The TvZ in particular had engagements all over the map, the supplies never reached 200/200 death ball status and we actually got to see a lot of tech. GRANTED these weren't pros playing their A game but it still looked fucking cool, I can't wait to see what pros can do with the game... I bet reapers in WoL looked fair to you? then some guy named morrow shit on everyone with reapers, probably still thought they were fair huh? I play zerg but I keep my bias under control, maybe you should to until we get an open beta.

you and zmansman17 are just circle jerking, we get it ok? you are unhappy, get over it.


Granted I'm Terran, but I'm not gonna commentate on balance 'n such at this stage of the game. However, I have to admit that Terran is looking pretty damn boring this update compared to Protoss and Zerg. And I'm not talking about balance (because I'm sure Terran will still win games), I'm talking about unit designs.

We got an A-Moving Mech Buster and a mechanical Zealot with no speed boost. We have laughably bad Reapers with Combat Drugs, and we have Mines. The Mines are the only unit I'm legitmately excited for because of all the useful applications I can see in them. Combined with the Ghost nerf, and there just isn't any "fun" unit within the Terran army anymore. Zerg and Protoss got some absolutely crazy shit and as a Terran player that makes me pretty jealous.

I fucking love the Raven, and I want to use it more. However it costs so much gas and takes a year and a half to upgrade that there's no plausible way to use it in the game until you hit late game.


Yeah I think this is how a lot of Terrans feel. We wanted late game options. We wanted to use the Raven. We wanted the ghost back. And what do we get: microless battle hellion and a mediocre mech unit
The more I think about it the more I think no one will play Terran in HoTS. And like the other guy said i'm not talking about balance. The fact is that with all the crap Zerg and Protoss is getting bio is seriously looking terrible. TvZ Zerg just has so many things that destroy bio now, banelings, fungal, locusts and the viper cloud will all rape bio. TvP is looking really impossible. Mech will not work against protoss ever in SC2 as long as Protoss has warp gate, warp prisms and blink stalkers. And the same MMMGV against Protoss with all those new units and abilities will obviously be a nightmare. Even TvT will probably be worse because of the battle hellion/ mines ruining marine tank battles. And plus, do Terran players really want to play some stupid turtle mech 1a style in all matchups?

And if that isn't enough, the fact that Terran has the hardest macro and the least interesting new units will cause everyone to jump ship to Zerg and Protoss. I really hope I'm wrong because I don't want to play anything but Terran but damn man I just don't see it.



Part 1: The community - WE WANT MECH! WHY YOU NO LET US MECH BLIZZ?
Part 2: Blizz introduces some pre-beta mech ideas at MLG
Part 3: The community - MECH IS TURTLEY AND 1A, DONT WANNA PLAY
Part 4: The end


Your wrongly assume that the mech people wanted is in all ways the same as the mech that blizzard has presented.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 09 2012 18:30 GMT
#1926
On June 10 2012 03:27 Aoxer wrote:
Unfortunately, I also don't think I'll be playing terran in HoTS, 22 range tempests, here I come!

I am morefor the oracle that's gonna be awesome
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 09 2012 18:31 GMT
#1927
On June 10 2012 03:29 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I thought the tempest would have been cooler 22 range is ridiculous would rather have 9 range and decent DPS. Everything else looks exciting


Yes, 9 range, so it can fit right in with the death ball 0_o I will take a unit that does something totally different.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
June 09 2012 18:32 GMT
#1928
On June 10 2012 03:29 Esk23 wrote:
Anyone defending Terran thinking it's good from what you've seen in the HotS video need to get your heads checked, seriously. Mech will simply not work with Ultra charge and that Viper Abduct ability. Imagine Broodlord/infestor/mass queen how that's already unbeatable for Terran and combine that with Vipers lololol. Bio will be bad too, imagine how infestor/viper is ganna be, Ultra charge will rape bio like nothing. Game is ganna take some serious patches to balance out. Terran is already terrible right now in WoL.


you still have ghosts to emp queens/vipers, you have vikings to counter anything but mutas, you still have ravens to use PDD and buy you time. Yea I think ultras will be strong, but if there is a will there is a way, giving up isn't an answer.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#1929
On June 10 2012 03:30 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:16 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:50 zmansman17 wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:46 HeroMystic wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:33 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:28 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:26 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:23 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:21 emc wrote:
[quote]

I'm not suggesting that. I'm suggesting that if a terran doesn't have a starport, they are doing it wrong.

I think thor/mine/viking will be the AA you need, and if not? raven with PDD will surely help.


And i disagree with that Thors fucking suck if they don't get a change and Mines would be totally unreliable to consistently deal damage.

The biggest problem is Mech cannot take more than 3 Bases safely and subsequently doesn't have enough Gas to finance an army strong enough while also keeping up with Upgrades on everything. i don't see how this changes.


why don't we calm down the rage until the beta comes out and balance actually matters?


I'm willing to wait and see but what they showed here is nothing to be excited about . Its looks like a turd and you guys are trying to polish it for Terran players but it still looks like a polished turd.


the battle reports reminded me of BW, so yeah, I'm FUCKING excited the way this game is turning out. I'm sorry that Toss/Zerg are getting all the love, but I'm sure as fucking shit that blizzard won't leave terran in the dust. This is an incomplete game and it already looks fucking awesome. The TvZ in particular had engagements all over the map, the supplies never reached 200/200 death ball status and we actually got to see a lot of tech. GRANTED these weren't pros playing their A game but it still looked fucking cool, I can't wait to see what pros can do with the game... I bet reapers in WoL looked fair to you? then some guy named morrow shit on everyone with reapers, probably still thought they were fair huh? I play zerg but I keep my bias under control, maybe you should to until we get an open beta.

you and zmansman17 are just circle jerking, we get it ok? you are unhappy, get over it.


Granted I'm Terran, but I'm not gonna commentate on balance 'n such at this stage of the game. However, I have to admit that Terran is looking pretty damn boring this update compared to Protoss and Zerg. And I'm not talking about balance (because I'm sure Terran will still win games), I'm talking about unit designs.

We got an A-Moving Mech Buster and a mechanical Zealot with no speed boost. We have laughably bad Reapers with Combat Drugs, and we have Mines. The Mines are the only unit I'm legitmately excited for because of all the useful applications I can see in them. Combined with the Ghost nerf, and there just isn't any "fun" unit within the Terran army anymore. Zerg and Protoss got some absolutely crazy shit and as a Terran player that makes me pretty jealous.

I fucking love the Raven, and I want to use it more. However it costs so much gas and takes a year and a half to upgrade that there's no plausible way to use it in the game until you hit late game.


Yeah I think this is how a lot of Terrans feel. We wanted late game options. We wanted to use the Raven. We wanted the ghost back. And what do we get: microless battle hellion and a mediocre mech unit
The more I think about it the more I think no one will play Terran in HoTS. And like the other guy said i'm not talking about balance. The fact is that with all the crap Zerg and Protoss is getting bio is seriously looking terrible. TvZ Zerg just has so many things that destroy bio now, banelings, fungal, locusts and the viper cloud will all rape bio. TvP is looking really impossible. Mech will not work against protoss ever in SC2 as long as Protoss has warp gate, warp prisms and blink stalkers. And the same MMMGV against Protoss with all those new units and abilities will obviously be a nightmare. Even TvT will probably be worse because of the battle hellion/ mines ruining marine tank battles. And plus, do Terran players really want to play some stupid turtle mech 1a style in all matchups?

And if that isn't enough, the fact that Terran has the hardest macro and the least interesting new units will cause everyone to jump ship to Zerg and Protoss. I really hope I'm wrong because I don't want to play anything but Terran but damn man I just don't see it.



Part 1: The community - WE WANT MECH! WHY YOU NO LET US MECH BLIZZ?
Part 2: Blizz introduces some pre-beta mech ideas at MLG
Part 3: The community - MECH IS TURTLEY AND 1A, DONT WANNA PLAY
Part 4: The end


Your wrongly assume that the mech people wanted is in all ways the same as the mech that blizzard has presented.


Well lucky for you they have this thing called the beta, where that will be ironed out.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 18:35:40
June 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#1930
On June 10 2012 03:15 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:09 zmansman17 wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:03 Plansix wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:59 Snoodles wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:58 Plansix wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:50 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM

Flash just came down and sat next to me and started playing hots!! He's also with stork, bisu and jaedong. No biggy! http://pic.twitter.com/uZUPOgRg

Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM

Stork floats a factory in flash's main and blow up 20 probes with the mines, flash laughed/freaked out. Was awesome


Oh man, mine drops are going to be the worst thing in the world. You can put 8 of those things in a single medivac...4 in the main, 4 in the natural.


1-1-1 early game medivac-mine drop? One can only hope.


I am really looking forward to trying to pick out 4 probes from the mineral line while they all pass through each other and mine gas....O_o And it only takes one of them going off to ruin your whole day.

Well, terrans wanted protoss and zerg to micro...


Are you really going to have a hard time in 10 seconds? That's like an eternity in an RTS and even a very low level player should have no problem.


Yes, I am not as good at the game as you are, because you are a masters on the korean ladder. But I also don't think you have the mechanical skill of Flash, because, well, you don't. If it is so easy, why is the story about him losing all of his probes to widow mines?


There is an incorrect assumption that Flash playing in what may have been a friendly/entertaining game under unknown circumstances with new and unknown units is the same as Flash playing with an understanding and mastery of these units in a serious game with known circumstances.
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Esk23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States447 Posts
June 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#1931
On June 10 2012 03:30 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:27 Aoxer wrote:
Unfortunately, I also don't think I'll be playing terran in HoTS, 22 range tempests, here I come!

I am morefor the oracle that's gonna be awesome


Yeah, who wouldn't want a unit that you click one button with and shut down your enemy's entire economy. I'm glad to see Blizzard adding more units that take skill and micro to use for Protoss, they need more of them =]
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 09 2012 18:34 GMT
#1932
On June 10 2012 03:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:30 zmansman17 wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:16 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:50 zmansman17 wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:46 HeroMystic wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:33 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:28 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:26 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:23 s3rp wrote:
[quote]

And i disagree with that Thors fucking suck if they don't get a change and Mines would be totally unreliable to consistently deal damage.

The biggest problem is Mech cannot take more than 3 Bases safely and subsequently doesn't have enough Gas to finance an army strong enough while also keeping up with Upgrades on everything. i don't see how this changes.


why don't we calm down the rage until the beta comes out and balance actually matters?


I'm willing to wait and see but what they showed here is nothing to be excited about . Its looks like a turd and you guys are trying to polish it for Terran players but it still looks like a polished turd.


the battle reports reminded me of BW, so yeah, I'm FUCKING excited the way this game is turning out. I'm sorry that Toss/Zerg are getting all the love, but I'm sure as fucking shit that blizzard won't leave terran in the dust. This is an incomplete game and it already looks fucking awesome. The TvZ in particular had engagements all over the map, the supplies never reached 200/200 death ball status and we actually got to see a lot of tech. GRANTED these weren't pros playing their A game but it still looked fucking cool, I can't wait to see what pros can do with the game... I bet reapers in WoL looked fair to you? then some guy named morrow shit on everyone with reapers, probably still thought they were fair huh? I play zerg but I keep my bias under control, maybe you should to until we get an open beta.

you and zmansman17 are just circle jerking, we get it ok? you are unhappy, get over it.


Granted I'm Terran, but I'm not gonna commentate on balance 'n such at this stage of the game. However, I have to admit that Terran is looking pretty damn boring this update compared to Protoss and Zerg. And I'm not talking about balance (because I'm sure Terran will still win games), I'm talking about unit designs.

We got an A-Moving Mech Buster and a mechanical Zealot with no speed boost. We have laughably bad Reapers with Combat Drugs, and we have Mines. The Mines are the only unit I'm legitmately excited for because of all the useful applications I can see in them. Combined with the Ghost nerf, and there just isn't any "fun" unit within the Terran army anymore. Zerg and Protoss got some absolutely crazy shit and as a Terran player that makes me pretty jealous.

I fucking love the Raven, and I want to use it more. However it costs so much gas and takes a year and a half to upgrade that there's no plausible way to use it in the game until you hit late game.


Yeah I think this is how a lot of Terrans feel. We wanted late game options. We wanted to use the Raven. We wanted the ghost back. And what do we get: microless battle hellion and a mediocre mech unit
The more I think about it the more I think no one will play Terran in HoTS. And like the other guy said i'm not talking about balance. The fact is that with all the crap Zerg and Protoss is getting bio is seriously looking terrible. TvZ Zerg just has so many things that destroy bio now, banelings, fungal, locusts and the viper cloud will all rape bio. TvP is looking really impossible. Mech will not work against protoss ever in SC2 as long as Protoss has warp gate, warp prisms and blink stalkers. And the same MMMGV against Protoss with all those new units and abilities will obviously be a nightmare. Even TvT will probably be worse because of the battle hellion/ mines ruining marine tank battles. And plus, do Terran players really want to play some stupid turtle mech 1a style in all matchups?

And if that isn't enough, the fact that Terran has the hardest macro and the least interesting new units will cause everyone to jump ship to Zerg and Protoss. I really hope I'm wrong because I don't want to play anything but Terran but damn man I just don't see it.



Part 1: The community - WE WANT MECH! WHY YOU NO LET US MECH BLIZZ?
Part 2: Blizz introduces some pre-beta mech ideas at MLG
Part 3: The community - MECH IS TURTLEY AND 1A, DONT WANNA PLAY
Part 4: The end


Your wrongly assume that the mech people wanted is in all ways the same as the mech that blizzard has presented.


Well lucky for you they have this thing called the beta, where that will be ironed out.


That is true, but has nothing to do with my post.
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 09 2012 18:35 GMT
#1933
On June 10 2012 03:23 Blasterion wrote:
Well time start to work on my protoss, you will be remembered as my favorite race,terran.


I <3 you. So brave for writing this. I will join you in your remembrance and journey.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 09 2012 18:35 GMT
#1934
On June 10 2012 03:32 emc wrote:
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On June 10 2012 03:29 Esk23 wrote:
Anyone defending Terran thinking it's good from what you've seen in the HotS video need to get your heads checked, seriously. Mech will simply not work with Ultra charge and that Viper Abduct ability. Imagine Broodlord/infestor/mass queen how that's already unbeatable for Terran and combine that with Vipers lololol. Bio will be bad too, imagine how infestor/viper is ganna be, Ultra charge will rape bio like nothing. Game is ganna take some serious patches to balance out. Terran is already terrible right now in WoL.


you still have ghosts to emp queens/vipers, you have vikings to counter anything but mutas, you still have ravens to use PDD and buy you time. Yea I think ultras will be strong, but if there is a will there is a way, giving up isn't an answer.


Yeah, I love how people are freaking about about the viper when the Ghost was born to kill that unit. I don't know about ravens, but the Ghost will love to eat vipers.
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Last Edited: 2012-06-09 18:37:39
June 09 2012 18:36 GMT
#1935
On June 10 2012 03:32 emc wrote:
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On June 10 2012 03:29 Esk23 wrote:
Anyone defending Terran thinking it's good from what you've seen in the HotS video need to get your heads checked, seriously. Mech will simply not work with Ultra charge and that Viper Abduct ability. Imagine Broodlord/infestor/mass queen how that's already unbeatable for Terran and combine that with Vipers lololol. Bio will be bad too, imagine how infestor/viper is ganna be, Ultra charge will rape bio like nothing. Game is ganna take some serious patches to balance out. Terran is already terrible right now in WoL.


you still have ghosts to emp queens/vipers, you have vikings to counter anything but mutas, you still have ravens to use PDD and buy you time. Yea I think ultras will be strong, but if there is a will there is a way, giving up isn't an answer.


Ghosts don't get to the infestors thx to the broodlings + thx to the small emp radius you can't emp them all, corruptors + fungal own vikings, ravens pdd blocks only corruptor shots.

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Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
June 09 2012 18:36 GMT
#1936
Even though they have stated that this is not the final build in all videos, it still seems like a lot of people are already taking this as final and "OMG THIS IS THE END, SWITCHING RACE ASAP". Seriously, wait till it's actually released and went through balance changes. If you can't be patient and realize how hard it is to balance these things from the get go, then just stop posting please.
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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
June 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#1937
On June 10 2012 03:35 Plansix wrote:
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On June 10 2012 03:32 emc wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:29 Esk23 wrote:
Anyone defending Terran thinking it's good from what you've seen in the HotS video need to get your heads checked, seriously. Mech will simply not work with Ultra charge and that Viper Abduct ability. Imagine Broodlord/infestor/mass queen how that's already unbeatable for Terran and combine that with Vipers lololol. Bio will be bad too, imagine how infestor/viper is ganna be, Ultra charge will rape bio like nothing. Game is ganna take some serious patches to balance out. Terran is already terrible right now in WoL.


you still have ghosts to emp queens/vipers, you have vikings to counter anything but mutas, you still have ravens to use PDD and buy you time. Yea I think ultras will be strong, but if there is a will there is a way, giving up isn't an answer.


Yeah, I love how people are freaking about about the viper when the Ghost was born to kill that unit. I don't know about ravens, but the Ghost will love to eat vipers.


just threw out the raven because it's such an underused unit and I think will have some use in HotS, I DO hope they take a second look at the raven and make it better.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
June 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#1938
On June 10 2012 03:29 Esk23 wrote:
Anyone defending Terran thinking it's good from what you've seen in the HotS video need to get your heads checked, seriously. Mech will simply not work with Ultra charge and that Viper Abduct ability. Imagine Broodlord/infestor/mass queen how that's already unbeatable for Terran and combine that with Vipers lololol. Bio will be bad too, imagine how infestor/viper is ganna be, Ultra charge will rape bio like nothing. Game is ganna take some serious patches to balance out. Terran is already terrible right now in WoL.


Damn you're right. Wait a second... who are you again? What is your rank? What tourneys have you won, or have you gotten GM/pro status with Terran?
Wait.. probably no to any of the above right? Your comments are baseless, the most you've seen about HotS is the same as the rest of us, and you are whining like... you know what you are whining like.

I'm glad that they are being incredibly fluid with their approach to HotS. I think with the inclusion of Kespa and BW pros really puts a fire under the asses of Blizzards balance team - i.e. My faith in the future of SC2 is growing.
And 22 range on tempest is lol
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June 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#1939
Here's what TLO has to say about you guys in this thread.

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Esk23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States447 Posts
June 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#1940
On June 10 2012 03:32 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:29 Esk23 wrote:
Anyone defending Terran thinking it's good from what you've seen in the HotS video need to get your heads checked, seriously. Mech will simply not work with Ultra charge and that Viper Abduct ability. Imagine Broodlord/infestor/mass queen how that's already unbeatable for Terran and combine that with Vipers lololol. Bio will be bad too, imagine how infestor/viper is ganna be, Ultra charge will rape bio like nothing. Game is ganna take some serious patches to balance out. Terran is already terrible right now in WoL.


you still have ghosts to emp queens/vipers, you have vikings to counter anything but mutas, you still have ravens to use PDD and buy you time. Yea I think ultras will be strong, but if there is a will there is a way, giving up isn't an answer.


LOLOL. You can't EMP queens, the EMP radius is too small, you can't EMP infestors either anymore, they are a big fatass unit that takes up a lot of space and again, EMP radius was over nerfed and is too small. Ghosts don't do anything when you have mass broodlords and that pick them off from range. PDD is garbage when zerg has enough corrupters, the PDDs run out of energy almost immediately. Corrupters, fungle > vikings.

Ultras were already starting to look good but with the skilled and microable ability they get call "burrowed charge" or w/e it's called makes them just completely broken. It's going to get nerfed though, all this shit will but I think it would be funny if they made the game and see Terran winrate drop to %0 a pro level.
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