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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:11 Die4Ever wrote: 3v3s, give energy to the Zerg's Vipers, and have the Vipers pull sieged tanks around the map! You mean pull siege tanks from their main to yours FOR NO RAISIN I just had the best idea, Have a Viper deny a medivac drop by pulling the medivac away just as it's about to get to your main. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:30 Die4Ever wrote: could you pull warp prisms that are in phasing mode? to cancel warp ins? lol oh god >.< | ||
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RUFinalBoss
United States266 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:30 Die4Ever wrote: could you pull warp prisms that are in phasing mode? to cancel warp ins? lol Ultralisk BURROWED CHARGE? WHAT about Abduct Ultralisk SUPER FLYING CHARGE? | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:31 Blasterion wrote: Ultralisk BURROWED CHARGE? WHAT about Abduct Ultralisk SUPER FLYING CHARGE? lol you could pull them towards the enemy so they end up in charging range, would be pretty sick to see | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:33 Die4Ever wrote: lol you could pull them towards the enemy so they end up in charging range, would be pretty sick to see Ultralisk DROP harrass eh? what about a Grip Ultralisk in to your main Harrass? | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Currently in WoL: Terran is strong in early and mid game Toss is strong mid/midish late game vs zerg and late game vs terran Zerg is strongest lategame With the new units: Terran is going to be stronger early and mid game Toss is going to be stronger early and mid game Zerg is going to be even stronger late game So it just seems like its going to be even more imbalanced at different time periods of the game when there's already too much of that already. | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17723 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:37 happyness wrote: I think all the units have good ideas to them but with working with the game as a whole and with the current WoL meta game it doesn't seem like it will work. Currently in WoL: Terran is strong in early and mid game Toss is strong mid/midish late game vs zerg and late game vs terran Zerg is strongest lategame With the new units: Terran is going to be stronger early and mid game Toss is going to be stronger early and mid game Zerg is going to be even stronger late game So it just seems like its going to be even more imbalanced at different time periods of the game when there's already too much of that already. This is kinda true...I wonder what happened to the battlecruiser overdrive speed burst thing, would've been cool if BCs became more useful. For ZvP the swarm host and speedy hydras might make the transition to broodlords a little easier. For TvP the new mech stuff might make lategame Terran stronger against Protoss | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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dragoon
United States695 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:51 Die4Ever wrote: This is kinda true...I wonder what happened to the battlecruiser overdrive speed burst thing, would've been cool if BCs became more useful. For ZvP the swarm host and speedy hydras might make the transition to broodlords a little easier. For TvP the new mech stuff might make lategame Terran stronger against Protoss Pretty sure it's still there, just that it hasn't been shown in the battle reports or trailers. You can see a full list of changes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343491 | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:51 Die4Ever wrote: This is kinda true...I wonder what happened to the battlecruiser overdrive speed burst thing, would've been cool if BCs became more useful. For ZvP the swarm host and speedy hydras might make the transition to broodlords a little easier. For TvP the new mech stuff might make lategame Terran stronger against Protoss Main concern with Redline Reactor is that it costs 100 mana, mana so precious for those Yamato gun shots, Or the mana that is no more than a burden and make it a large feedback target. | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:58 Blasterion wrote: Main concern with Redline Reactor is that it costs 100 mana, mana so precious for those Yamato gun shots, Or the mana that is no more than a burden and make it a large feedback target. would be useful for your first few BCs though wouldn't it? like they won't be using that energy while yamato is still researching, so in the meantime it gets them to where they need to be faster. dunno if that very specific situation warrants adding a whole new ability to the BC though. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 13:01 Doc Daneeka wrote: would be useful for your first few BCs though wouldn't it? like they won't be using that energy while yamato is still researching, so in the meantime it gets them to where they need to be faster. dunno if that very specific situation warrants adding a whole new ability to the BC though. It's useful to save not using an emp on your cruisers in an TvP scenario. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
It's thanks to sc2's design that medivacs are not bio, that tanks are needed to support bio in TvZ, that vikings are needed for bio in TvP, without making the terran weaker due to having units from other tech trees (and thus having their upgrades spread out more). If pure bio or pure mech worked like it did in SC1, tech transitions would probably be almost impossible. On June 11 2012 13:05 Blasterion wrote: It's useful to save not using an emp on your cruisers in an TvP scenario. Then again, if you stack all your BCs you'll only have to use 1 EMP. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 14:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Well with warhounds, battle hellions, and mines, TvP bio may use them as support, similar to vikings. Similar to how bio users can already start transitioning into BCs once they hit +3 air weapons on their vikings, (which will be made more "viable" thanks to BC speed boost thingy), bio users may get +armor for hellions or +attack or + armor for warhounds, etc. etc. Then they would have a unit/upgrade(s) allowing them to bridge over into a mech transition. It's thanks to sc2's design that medivacs are not bio, that tanks are needed to support bio in TvZ, that vikings are needed for bio in TvP, without making the terran weaker due to having units from other tech trees (and thus having their upgrades spread out more). If pure bio or pure mech worked like it did in SC1, tech transitions would probably be almost impossible. Then again, if you stack all your BCs you'll only have to use 1 EMP. it's 1 more emp than I'd have to use. | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
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Battousai13
United States638 Posts
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