EPTOn June 11 2012 12:54 Xarow wrote:
super excited for abduct and speedy hydras!
super excited for abduct and speedy hydras!
Agreed. Those Hydras look amazing
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Brisk Iced Tea
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:12 Blasterion wrote: You mean pull siege tanks from their main to yours FOR NO RAISIN I just had the best idea, Have a Viper deny a medivac drop by pulling the medivac away just as it's about to get to your main. um, what? siege tanks in your base would be cool... don't know about raisins though. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 16:24 TheDraken wrote: um, what? siege tanks in your base would be cool... don't know about raisins though. sorry it was my lousy spelling I meant to say Reason rather than Raisin | ||
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
why make 1312 infestors when you can have 1 infestor with enough energy to populate and terraform planets? i.e. terrans and growth | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 11 2012 16:30 Warpath wrote: Just have cores energize other cores to energize EVERYTHINGELSE why make 1312 infestors when you can have 1 infestor with enough energy to populate and terraform planets? i.e. terrans and growth 2 Toss 1 Terran Cloak Banshee rush. Unlimited Cloak Works | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On June 11 2012 16:31 Blasterion wrote: 2 Toss 1 Terran Cloak Banshee rush. Unlimited Cloak Works ahahaha that's a good idea, fucking flying DTs, maybe also could be used for mass creep spread? mass phoenix lifts? | ||
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
On June 10 2012 08:01 Inquisitor1323 wrote: I will be having nightmares about burrowed banelings for the rest of my life. You would literally have to scan EVERYWHERE unless you made ravens. Terran already has the most inconvenient detector unit in the game and now this... No, you just have to build 1 sensor tower and always safe 50 energy on OC. Thats pretty easy against expensive Gas units actually. I think the Viper cloud is pretty bad because it does only affect bio and is useless against toss. Also abduct seems very gimmicky. Will be interesting how it feels. | ||
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SmileZerg
United States543 Posts
On June 11 2012 16:41 D4V3Z02 wrote: No, you just have to build 1 sensor tower and always safe 50 energy on OC. Thats pretty easy against expensive Gas units actually. Sensor Tower doesn't detect burrowed or cloaked units, and baneling burrow movement isn't even in HotS anymore... | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On June 11 2012 16:25 Blasterion wrote: sorry it was my lousy spelling I meant to say Reason rather than Raisin No way, man, you were just quoting Futurama. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Bit sad they removed the bombs, spines and cannons will easily counter them now but everything else is great. 7! range, 60 hp (10 more then now) and the auto regenerate as an update, bit less damage to light. Maybe can go mass reaper at start against toss and zerg quiet easily, they can kite stalkers now in theory and roaches should not be a prob at all. Warhound looks like a boring unit,hellion i dont like at all. Not a fan of the transformer units. The mine i dont know, it can be good but i guess if opponent would micro perfectly (ie pull out the targeted unit or send 1-2 cheap units ahead to trigger the mines) i think its just bad and to static. What speed they move btw when not burrowed? dont see that mentioned annywhere, or do you hav to pull them to their location with other units lol. | ||
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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SmileZerg
United States543 Posts
On June 11 2012 17:08 Rassy wrote: Reaper looks good, only unit i am realy looking forward to. Bit sad they removed the bombs, spines and cannons will easily counter them now but everything else is great. 7! range, 60 hp (10 more then now) and the auto regenerate as an update, bit less damage to light. Maybe can go mass reaper at start against toss and zerg quiet easily, they can kite stalkers now in theory and roaches should not be a prob at all. Warhound looks like a boring unit,hellion i dont like at all. Not a fan of the transformer units. The mine i dont know, it can be good but i guess if opponent would micro perfectly (ie pull out the targeted unit or send 1-2 cheap units ahead to trigger the mines) i think its just bad and to static. What speed they move btw when not burrowed? dont see that mentioned annywhere, or do you hav to pull them to their location with other units lol. Reaper is only 5 range, sadly. The reports of 7 were mistaken. The Widow Mines actually move pretty fast above ground and are not bad by any stretch of the imagination. Even if they never splash anything they're still borderline broken - think of the splash damage as a rare bonus. The fact that they force the opponent to micro is already awesome. There are just so many uses and interesting dynamics with those things, I see them becoming a staple in every match-up. | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
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SmileZerg
United States543 Posts
On June 11 2012 17:17 Garmer wrote: widow mine move at 2.81 That's the same speed as Warhounds correct? Pretty nice. | ||
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Luppy1
Singapore177 Posts
On June 11 2012 17:13 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: This really looks like its gonna ruin the balance. Terran seems to have got the short end of the stick for HotS. Pretty disappointed. . Personally, I think terran looks alright. All the 3 races look more complete now, instead of only 1 race being more complete. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
-A single entomb from an Oracle can cover an entire mineral line. -Clairvoyance or whatever it's called is the most crazy OP scouting method of all time. -Tempests aren't as good against mutas as you might think. -They are, however, hilarious for harassing mineral lines from practically halfway across the map using an observer to spot. -The Viper's abduct ability is silly OP. Autowin against deathballs and siege lines that aren't exceptionally well prepared. -Swarm Host locusts have a ranged attack that hits ground and air. -Speed Hydras are scary as hell for Terran to deal with and may open up new ZvP possibilities. -Blinding Cloud is also autowin against siege lines. -Battle Hellions with blue flame are pretty good against chargelots. -Warhounds demolish stalkers and hold up well in general in TvP. -Mech in general seems to work better against Protoss right now. -Mines are really cool but it's easy to split off units and avoid taking splash damage. The main benefit is that it at least momentarily forces your opponent to deal with something besides attacking you. | ||
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SmileZerg
United States543 Posts
On June 11 2012 17:21 forsooth wrote: I played like a dozen games with the different races at MLG, mostly 1v1s with friends that we used to test interactions between units. Some impressions: -A single entomb from an Oracle can cover an entire mineral line. -Clairvoyance or whatever it's called is the most crazy OP scouting method of all time. -Tempests aren't as good against mutas as you might think. -They are, however, hilarious for harassing mineral lines from practically halfway across the map using an observer to spot. -The Viper's abduct ability is silly OP. Autowin against deathballs and siege lines that aren't exceptionally well prepared. -Swarm Host locusts have a ranged attack that hits ground and air. -Speed Hydras are scary as hell for Terran to deal with and may open up new ZvP possibilities. -Blinding Cloud is also autowin against siege lines. -Battle Hellions with blue flame are pretty good against chargelots. -Warhounds demolish stalkers and hold up well in general in TvP. -Mech in general seems to work better against Protoss right now. -Mines are really cool but it's easy to split off units and avoid taking splash damage. The main benefit is that it at least momentarily forces your opponent to deal with something besides attacking you. You do realize Tempests aren't even remotely designed to counter mutas anymore? They were completely redesigned from the original version. Also, when you say blinding cloud is good versus "siege lines".. I assume you mean marine/tank? Because the spell only affects bio. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On June 11 2012 17:25 SmileZerg wrote: You do realize Tempests aren't even remotely designed to counter mutas anymore? They were completely redesigned from the original version. Also, when you say blinding cloud is good versus "siege lines".. I assume you mean marine/tank? Because the spell only affects bio. I was unaware of the redesign. I haven't kept up with the new ideas at all. As for siege lines, yes, that is what I mean. It's super easy to force the marines back from the tanks with cloud and then kill the tanks practically for free. Mutas remain very valuable late into the game because of this ability. Getting a decent number of Vipers up isn't the easiest thing in the world but with their consume ability, you can defend your base pretty much all day from marine/tank. | ||
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