EPTSpades retires from Western Wolves - Page 5
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This is not the place to argue whether or not spades hacked, do that in the relevant thread please. (this is in effect page 10 onward) | ||
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tsuxiit
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:09 Awesomeness wrote: Did you even watch it? Yeah we don't know, but there is really conclusive evidence. Saying Spades didn't cheat is like saying O.J. Simpson is innocent at this point. So you don't know but you believe there's conclusive evidence? "Yeah guys, we don't know if he hacked, but we sure got rid of him anyway!" | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:04 toiletCAT wrote: Who is CatZ to judge that? Face it, we don't know he hacked or not. While Catz and Drewbie are great players, they're not experts on SC2 hacks, how they work, or how the SC2 replay system records and displays actions. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
I have no opinion on if he hacks or not. Most of the information seems to be inconsistent so far so I am waiting until after MLG and WCS to full make my opinion on it. | ||
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andReslic
216 Posts
On June 06 2012 04:59 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: People who are innocent leave their teams right? O no, they don't. This guy is completely clueless, EVERYTHING he does makes him seem more guilty This. For people that wants him to keep him in the community, he hacked, you should accept it, and keeping him in the community is like accepting map hackers play at high level. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:11 toiletCAT wrote: So you don't know but you believe there's conclusive evidence? I think the second MJ Case is a better analogy. Everyone assumed MJ was guilty because of prior suspicions that he was a pedophile, which were settled out of court. The second case turned out to be an elaborate con. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I would like to see him become like the sickest LoL coach or something, where his numerous gifts won't be wasted. Regardless, I will continue cheering for him, I hope he will be at MLG to compete with many many fans from all around the world, bathed in happiness and love. | ||
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mememolly
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:13 Defacer wrote: I think the second MJ Case is a better analogy. Everyone assumed MJ was guilty because of prior suspicions that he was a pedophile, which were settled out of court. The second case turned out to be an elaborate con. There's much more to a murder case than to a guy hacking in videogames. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
Ultimately, the decision on whether or not he was a hacker should've been left to Blizzard. When hackers are reported they review the case, and most (if not all) confirmed hackers are banned/demoted to perma-bronze. There was no conclusive evidence (I myself did not think he hacked personally) and now the guy's career is, at this point, in question. Frankly I think we should be ashamed. Good luck in your future endeavors Spades, I loved your play and you have a fan in me. | ||
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
If innocent, is the career of Spades worth the possible abandonment of hacks by others or those that planned to use them? I can't make that call, but it seems like the only positive out of this whole situation. | ||
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:11 setzer wrote: Why did Sangho quit BW when he didn't map-hack? Why are professionals fired from their careers based on hearsay and false accusations? No longer do we live in societies where people are innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the public. As soon as that first accusation is brought out the crowd opinion instantly latches on to that and brands the accused guilty, without deciding before all information is brought onto the table. With instant media and many outlets for others to express opinions, people are easily caught up and believe incomplete, sometimes completely false, information and it spirals out of control. You say that like we ever actually did outside of the legal system. Mob witch hunts certainly didn't magically begin with the digital age. | ||
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
I read some comments, im stunned to read so many people still defend him | ||
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
On June 06 2012 04:58 BlitchizSC2 wrote: Good riddance. My thoughts exactly  | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
Except it won't, because you see everything before it happens. | ||
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sureshot_
United States257 Posts
On June 06 2012 05:11 toiletCAT wrote: So you don't know but you believe there's conclusive evidence? "Yeah guys, we don't know if he hacked, but we sure got rid of him anyway!" Do you have any idea how circumstantial evidence works? There's a limit as for how much circumstantial evidence proves something is conclusive and you obviously think that threshold is much lower than him. No one will EVER know for sure (it's the same for a certain percentage of previous hackers who get banned). | ||
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Alacar
15 Posts
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On June 06 2012 04:57 OzkanTheFlip wrote: Spades, no1 wants you quit, worst case scenario is you made a mistake and hopefully admit to it and grow some balls your still going to do well. Actually, there's a lot of people who would permanently blackball him if he admitted to hacking, and they'd be right to do so. There should be zero tolerance for hacking, especially if SC2 is to be considered a real sport worthy of financial support and investment. | ||
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