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This is not the place to argue whether or not spades hacked, do that in the relevant thread please.

(this is in effect page 10 onward)
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 21:23:49
June 05 2012 19:52 GMT
#1
Statement from Brian "Spades" Francis:

I won't discus the accusations themselves here, this is not the place or time.

Regardless of whether I'm found “innocent” or “guilty” in the public eye, my reputation as a pro gamer is damaged severely. It's unlikely that I'll receive invites to major tournaments or showmatches as long as this matter is unresolved and I don't see any way for this to be resolved. I feel that staying with the Western Wolves would put the team in a negative light, especially considering how well the team has treated me, I would hate to negatively represent the WW team.

It's been a short stay, but one I thoroughly enjoyed. It's been great to have the opportunity to play for the WW team and I regret it coming to an end the way it is.


source: http://westernwolves.com/content/News/Spades_retires_from_Western_Wolves-263.html

Edit: im not working for WW, stop sending me PM about spades T____T
Daitakk
Profile Joined November 2011
77 Posts
June 05 2012 19:53 GMT
#2
Guilty as fuck.

User was warned for this post
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
June 05 2012 19:53 GMT
#3
Man that sucks Spades cool guy, but its too hard to tell what happened.
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
toiletCAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Qatar284 Posts
June 05 2012 19:54 GMT
#4
Succesful witch hunt is succesful.

I feel sorry for him and the community.
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
June 05 2012 19:54 GMT
#5
Cowards way out in my eyes. Own up to your mistakes Spade..
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
June 05 2012 19:54 GMT
#6
This community has good days and bad days.

Unfortunately, as of late, it seems that the ugly side has been showing for too long. It's unfortunate Spades decided to leave, and I wish him the best of luck in the future!
Tracking treasure down
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
June 05 2012 19:55 GMT
#7
sucks, guess it was needed with people giving him (unwarranted, surely) death threats if he attended lans, there was no other choice.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
June 05 2012 19:56 GMT
#8
Great statement and all, but I'm getting annoyed with companies saying they need to digest stuff before making a response. Stop having your employees do stupid shit please.

Don't be racist, don't be a cheater, and everything is fine.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 19:56:24
June 05 2012 19:56 GMT
#9
Has he retired from all professional play or just the team?

Will he still go to MLG?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 05 2012 19:56 GMT
#10
Best of luck in the future.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
dLG)Bananenbaum
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany62 Posts
June 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#11
if a politician fucks the people, hes out.
if a professional sportsman is getting caught doping, hes out.

if you HACK for ONE TIME, guess what.
your fuckin out.
OzkanTheFlip
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 19:57:22
June 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#12
Spades, no1 wants you quit, worst case scenario is you made a mistake and hopefully admit to it and grow some balls your still going to do well.
Make Moar Roaches
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#13
Sorry but the fog of war discrepancies between the showmatch replays and a random sample of his ladder replays are more than circumstantial.
Vogue
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 19:57:49
June 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#14
Bye!
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
June 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#15
On June 06 2012 04:54 toiletCAT wrote:
Succesful witch hunt is succesful.

I feel sorry for him and the community.


Witch hunt? I call it justice matter infact Blizzard should sue him for damaging the spirit of online competive play. Dont feel sorry for him feel sorry for the players he cheated!
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Smancer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States379 Posts
June 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#16
Does this mean that he has retired from the team?
A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby."
mewbert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States291 Posts
June 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#17
good, another cheater that wont be able to show his face again.
neversummer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States156 Posts
June 05 2012 19:58 GMT
#18
We have attempted to investigate these claims (unfortunately not exhaustively because of how swiftly the rumors spiraled out of control).


Even more reason to investigate these claims "exhaustively."

I won't discus the accusations themselves here, this is not the place or time.


In other words, I maphacked.
Those scientists better check their hypotenuses, dude.
surfacegnome
Profile Joined June 2012
3 Posts
June 05 2012 19:58 GMT
#19
If he was innocent I don't think he would have left his team.
BlitchizSC2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States306 Posts
June 05 2012 19:58 GMT
#20
Good riddance.
www.twitch.tv/blitchizsc2 | http://www.youtube.com/BlitchizStarcraft ~ fighting!
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