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This is not the place to argue whether or not spades hacked, do that in the relevant thread please.

(this is in effect page 10 onward)
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
June 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#21
I can't be sure Spades is guility, but it sure looks like it. And this is the right thing to do, I'm afraid.
"Right on" - Morrow
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
June 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#22
People who are innocent leave their teams right? O no, they don't. This guy is completely clueless, EVERYTHING he does makes him seem more guilty
"let your freak flag fly"
toiletCAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Qatar284 Posts
June 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#23
On June 06 2012 04:57 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:54 toiletCAT wrote:
Succesful witch hunt is succesful.

I feel sorry for him and the community.


Witch hunt? I call it justice matter infact Blizzard should sue him for damaging the spirit of online competive play. Dont feel sorry for him feel sorry for the players he cheated!


But you don't know if he cheated anyone. It's a witch hunt.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
June 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#24
community got this one right, GJ everyone who investigated the replays and stream etc
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
June 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#25
"pro player"? did he even earn a single dollar?
Galetmonster
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden151 Posts
June 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#26
Good riddance american cheater
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#27
that stinks
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
June 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#28
Unfortunate that Spades had to leave his team, but under teh current situation I can see that he really had no choice :/
Some times you just gotta wish...
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
June 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#29
On June 06 2012 04:59 Galetmonster wrote:
Good riddance american cheater
oh this should be good
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#30
On June 06 2012 04:57 OzkanTheFlip wrote:
Spades, no1 wants you quit, worst case scenario is you made a mistake and hopefully admit to it and grow some balls your still going to do well.


What no. If he is found hacking he is done for ever, especially since he did this in bw. He is right when he says his career is fucked if he is found map hacking he will not be allowed to play in tournaments at all and no tournament would let him play unless they are clueless.

The fact you think worst case scenario is you made a mistake is hilariously wrong.
When I think of something else, something will go here
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#31
Why would he leave if he wasn't guilty, unless completely called out by TeamLiquid or having a full set of pro-gamers analyze the games,it just makes you look like you felt your guilt and decided to leave.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#32
Hopefully things will work out for you Spades, best of luck for your future.
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
June 05 2012 20:00 GMT
#33
On June 06 2012 04:57 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:54 toiletCAT wrote:
Succesful witch hunt is succesful.

I feel sorry for him and the community.


Witch hunt? I call it justice matter infact Blizzard should sue him for damaging the spirit of online competive play. Dont feel sorry for him feel sorry for the players he cheated!

We have no real proof that he cheated. I'd like to have the time to analyze any pro's replays pack, I'm sure I could find a lot of "suspicious evidence".
Now, I don't say spades didn't cheat, I really don't know, but I just think he deserved a fair "trial" and that's really not what he got.
coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
June 05 2012 20:01 GMT
#34
retard community strikes again.. brainless ppl . he left cus he was getting death emails, and he wanted to save his team from bad reputation, spades wasnt even a money maker pro , so why accuse him of things which arent 100% sure...????_ dont get it
\BibleThump/
Wubbles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 20:02:42
June 05 2012 20:01 GMT
#35
On June 06 2012 04:57 dLG)Bananenbaum wrote:
if you HACK for ONE TIME, guess what.
your fuckin out.


Not if you're haypro, tt1, etc. Community has shown it's capable of forgiving people if they admit to hacking and make amends, etc.
tetsuo9
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile62 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 20:02:31
June 05 2012 20:01 GMT
#36
On June 06 2012 04:56 SimDawg wrote:
Don't be racist, don't be a cheater, and everything is fine.

People will manage to find other stuff to ruin people's life. Like money earned, days of vacation, time spent playing other games, time spent with girlfriends, CO2 footprint, excesive traveling, among others.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
June 05 2012 20:02 GMT
#37
Spades doesn't respond to the allegations-GUILTY

I'm sure if he did try to plead his case, people would assume he was being overly defensive and still find him GUILTY.
blah blah blah...
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 20:03:59
June 05 2012 20:02 GMT
#38
Circumstantial at best? Disappointed with WW, obviously they're looking at the replays with a huge bias going in. If they really wanted to get to the bottom of this mess they would see what CatZ and co had to say yesterday. This is also why it would've been pointless letting WW deal with the accusations from the start as Martijn said would've been best. Nothing would've happened.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
June 05 2012 20:03 GMT
#39
On June 06 2012 05:00 31415926535 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:57 Benjamin99 wrote:
On June 06 2012 04:54 toiletCAT wrote:
Succesful witch hunt is succesful.

I feel sorry for him and the community.


Witch hunt? I call it justice matter infact Blizzard should sue him for damaging the spirit of online competive play. Dont feel sorry for him feel sorry for the players he cheated!

We have no real proof that he cheated. I'd like to have the time to analyze any pro's replays pack, I'm sure I could find a lot of "suspicious evidence".
Now, I don't say spades didn't cheat, I really don't know, but I just think he deserved a fair "trial" and that's really not what he got.


Judge Catz gave him a fair trial and he was found guilty.
xlord 5:0
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 05 2012 20:03 GMT
#40
On June 06 2012 05:01 Wubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:57 dLG)Bananenbaum wrote:
if you HACK for ONE TIME, guess what.
your fuckin out.


Not if you're haypro, tt1, etc. Community has shown it's capable of forgiving people if they admit to hacking and make amends, etc.

Funny that you exclude Spades from that list, as he was caught maphacking in BW and was forgiven too.
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